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Re: Microwave Link Coordination

Kenny Richards
 

Randy,

To start the process, could you draw up a proposed a 'band plan' which is the first step to coordinating the microwave bands? Based on the immediate need/existing usage in WWA, starting with the 5cm band seems to make the most sense. (and please leverage the new 70cm band plan layout: https://www.wwara.org/documents/70cmbandplan/)

I also remember that Bart presented a paper to the WWARA several years ago, which we should locate and review. I suspect it will provide a useful perspective. 

73,

Kenny, KU7M


Microwave Link Coordination

Randy Neals
 
Edited


Repeater Site Linking was at one time primarily accomplished on the 70cm band, and WWARA coordination polices allow for coordination of Link Frequencies, typically between repeater sites.

The explosion of WiFi device availability, and the availability of Wireless Internet Service Provider equipment has opened up our Microwave bands, but particularly the 13cm, 5cm, 3cm, and 1.2cm Amateur Bands.

There is merit in having a coordination body record and document these fixed location links, particularly as we use wide bandwidth modulation (5MHz, 10MHz, 20 MHz) and have a growing number of these links, which may lead to greater chance of interference.

I would like to propose that the topic of Amateur Microwave Band Link Frequency Coordination be added to a future WWARA meeting agenda, and that we consider the application of WWARA's existing coordination policy on fixed station links, including multipoint sectors that support multiple remote fixed sites.

Effectively, we still do repeater site linking, but it's become digital, and moved to microwave bands. Frequency coordination would allow for greater success in having multiple parties build microwave backbones between fixed sites, and to serve fixed location amateur stations.


Re: Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

Scott Honaker
 

Good question.  You can find it under Process-Membership Dues

https://www.wwara.org/coordination-process/membership/

 

Thanks!

 

Scott N7SS

 

From: wwara@groups.io <wwara@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jamie H
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 7:24 PM
To: wwara@groups.io
Subject: [wwara] Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

 

Good Evening,

 

During the meeting, there was mention of a PayPal link to allow members to submit the membership fee. When browsing the Fees section, it only shows a link to the address which then errors to a 404 Page Not Found.

 

Thanks,

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Phone: (360) 340-8886

 


Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

 

Good Evening,

 

During the meeting, there was mention of a PayPal link to allow members to submit the membership fee. When browsing the Fees section, it only shows a link to the address which then errors to a 404 Page Not Found.

 

Thanks,

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Phone: (360) 340-8886

 


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 05/08/2021 #cal-notice

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General WWARA Meeting

When:
Saturday, 8 May 2021
7:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

Organizer:
kenny@...

Description:
Q2 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 05/08/2021 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder: General WWARA Meeting

When: Saturday, 8 May 2021, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

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Organizer: Kenneth Richards kenny@...

Description: Q2 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.


Re: Repeater Narrow Banding

 

If it would help some repeater operators to make the transition, you could submit a grant proposal for some funding.

I know the Utah VHF Society had a practice of using society funds to upgrade repeaters (I don't know if it still does) as they made changes like going to 20 KHz bandwidth or if a duplexer or similar was needed.

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:10 AM Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:
Rowland,
 
You ask what probably seems like a simple question, but is actually complicated to provide a simple answer to right now. The biggest issue is that right now there is only a high level proposal, with a made up timeline to kickstart a discussion around narrowbanding with the repeater community in Washington. Having these discussions and getting feedback is why the WWARA has been doing talks to interested clubs for the last 12-18 months.
 
I really recommend reading the narrowband whitepaper linked from the WWARA website and I'd be happy to have further discussions with your group and give the presentation. But to answer your question, assuming the proposal outlined in the document is put into effect immediately, repeaters that were not using a narrowband mode in 15 years from now wouldn't be coordinated. 

73,
Kenny, KU7M


--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE / WRJT-215

 


Re: Repeater Narrow Banding

Kenny Richards
 

Rowland,
 
You ask what probably seems like a simple question, but is actually complicated to provide a simple answer to right now. The biggest issue is that right now there is only a high level proposal, with a made up timeline to kickstart a discussion around narrowbanding with the repeater community in Washington. Having these discussions and getting feedback is why the WWARA has been doing talks to interested clubs for the last 12-18 months.
 
I really recommend reading the narrowband whitepaper linked from the WWARA website and I'd be happy to have further discussions with your group and give the presentation. But to answer your question, assuming the proposal outlined in the document is put into effect immediately, repeaters that were not using a narrowband mode in 15 years from now wouldn't be coordinated. 

73,
Kenny, KU7M


Repeater Narrow Banding

Rowland
 

Does this mean that all repeaters will have to be setup for narrow banding?  What of those whose equipment does not have that capability?


Re: General Membership WWARA Meeting - May 8th, 2021 (Zoom Call Info)

Jerry Gaule <ccaisradio@...>
 

Thanks for letting me know sincerely Gerald Gaule ke7ggv pio for region 4/asm for western Washington arrl  


General Membership WWARA Meeting - May 8th, 2021 (Zoom Call Info)

Kenny Richards
 

Here is the Zoom meeting info for the general meeting this weekend, May 8 @ 1900 hrs.
NOTE THE TIME CHANGE TO 1900 Hours!

Join Zoom Meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88227572774?pwd=cldkdUhCN0FUd08rK21Qa3dQRzlZUT09#success
Meeting ID: 882 2757 2774
Passcode: 377606
One tap mobile +12532158782,,89546837922#,,,,*123502# US (Tacoma) 

The agenda is located at: Agenda-May8th-WWARA Meeting


Re: Updated Event: General WWARA Meeting - Saturday, 8 May 2021 #cal-invite

Kenny Richards
 

The BoD realized there is a number of conflicts on May 1st for the next WWARA general meeting, so it was decided to postpone it for a week to May 8th. The agenda will be posted in the next couple days and the Zoom call details will be posted here a week before the meeting.

73,
Kenny, KU7M
WWARA Chairman


Updated Event: General WWARA Meeting - Saturday, 8 May 2021 #cal-invite

wwara@groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

General WWARA Meeting

When:
Saturday, 8 May 2021
7:00pm to 9:00pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

Organizer: Kenneth Richards kenny@...

Description:
Q2 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.


Re: General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 02/06/2021 #cal-notice

Kenny Richards
 

The meeting minutes for the Feb 6th meeting are now posted on the WWARA website.

I'm also sorry to announce that due to health reasons, Steve Vanwambeck, N9VW has resigned from the WWARA board and as the 440 band chair, effective immediately. Steve has made a huge impact during his tenure and we are very sorry to see him step down. We wish him the best in his recovery.

In the short term, I will cover the secretary duties until a replacement can be identified. Rob-NR3O has agreed to take over as the 440 band chair and has also replaced Peter-WA7FUS as the 2m band chair.

73,

Kenny, KU7M
WWARA Chairman


Member Comment period for the 29.680_W7RNB_Lyman

Kenny Richards
 
Edited

This is the Member Comment period for the 29.680 W7RNB_Lyman_1005T_20200704 system that has completed their 3 month testing interval with no issues. The board has approved this coordination and now open for public comment. 

If no negative comments are registered by 2021-02-28, the W7RNB system will receive their coordination.

73,
Kenny, KU7M


Member comment period open for 145.21 near Forks

Peter Dahl, WA7FUS
 

Following a successful test period, the 2 meter band chairman’s recommendation and WWARA Board approval, the W7FEL 145.21 repeater on Gunderson Mountain near Forks is ready to enter the member comment phase of the coordination process.

Today is the beginning of the 14 day member comment period for this  application for  coordination. If no objections to the coordination of these repeaters is received by February 21 the trustees of this repeater will receive their certificate of coordination.

Peter Dahl, WA7FUS
WWARA 2 meter band chairman


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 02/06/2021 #cal-notice

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General WWARA Meeting

When:
Saturday, 6 February 2021
7:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

Organizer:
kenny@...

Description:
Q1 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.

Reminder: Based on feedback, the meeting has been moved from the traditional 10am time to the early evening (7PM PST).  Feedback is welcome if this works better or worst (or no difference).

73,
Kenny, KU7M


moderated Re: Member Comment period for 444.150_WA7DMR_Frailey_5756_20201020

Kenny Richards
 

I have moderated the thread.

Future posts will be limited to those directly related to the topic and about the technical merits of the coordination. 

Thanks
Kenny, KU7M


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 02/06/2021 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder: General WWARA Meeting

When: Saturday, 6 February 2021, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

View Event

Organizer: Kenny Richards kenny@...

Description: Q1 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.

Reminder: Based on feedback, the meeting has been moved from the traditional 10am time to the early evening (7PM PST).  Feedback is welcome if this works better or worst (or no difference).

73,
Kenny, KU7M


moderated Re: Member Comment period for 444.150_WA7DMR_Frailey_5756_20201020

Steve, N9VW
 

All,
This is a comment period for the coordination of this repeater, based on its technical merits, regardless of whom it is for or its intended purpose. The comment period is not for airing personal beliefs or grievances about any particular group.

If you have any comments based on the technical merits of this proposed coordination then please just present the facts.

Thank you all in advance!
73 de Steve, N9VW
wwara Sec., 440 Band Ch.
 


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