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Member comment period - 444.075_KC7Z_Bremerton_5685

Rob Salsgiver
 

The KC7Z 444.075 repeater has passed a Board vote and is now submitted for the required 14 day member comment period.  If no negative comments are received by 9/6/21 the KC7Z system will receive it's coordination.

Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
2m/70cm Band Chair


Member comment period - 440.9625_K7SOA_Megler_5761

Rob Salsgiver
 

The K7SOA 440.9625 repeater has passed a Board vote and is now submitted for the required 14 day member comment period.  If no negative comments are received by 9/6/21 the K7SOA system will receive it's coordination.

Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
2m/70cm Band Chair


Member comment period - 442.300_W7BFD_Bellingham_5759

Rob Salsgiver
 

The W7BFD 442.300 repeater has passed a Board vote and is now submitted for the required 14 day member comment period.  If no negative comments are received by 9/6/21 the W7BFD system will receive it's coordination.

Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
2m/70cm Band Chair


Re: Member comment period - 444.900_NN7D_GigHarbor_5758_20201124

Rob Salsgiver
 

Details.  Time flies when you’re having fun….

 

Thanks Kenny.

 

Rob

 

From: wwara@groups.io <wwara@groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Richards
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 8:50 PM
To: wwara@groups.io
Subject: Re: [wwara] Member comment period - 444.900_NN7D_GigHarbor_5758_20201124

 

I think Rob meant if no negative comments are received by 8/30/21, the coordination will be granted. (16+14=30)

Thanks
Kenny


Re: Member comment period - 444.900_NN7D_GigHarbor_5758_20201124

Randy Neals
 


This is a positive comment in support of the allocation for NN7D repeater.
I understand the repeater will be used by Gig Harbor area amateurs in support of their community emergency preparedness etc.

It's great to see low level repeaters being deployed and used for emcomm as it enables greater frequency reuse across Western Washington than if we put all our repeaters on the highest mountains.

Randy W3RWN 
Burien, WA
(Trustee of W7BUR - low level emcomm repeater)

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:18 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob@...> wrote:
The NN7D 444.900 repeater has passed a Board vote and is now submitted for the required 14 day member comment period.  If no negative comments are received by 8/23/21 the NN7D system will receive it's coordination.

Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
2m/70cm Band Chair


Re: Member comment period - 444.900_NN7D_GigHarbor_5758_20201124

Kenny Richards
 

I think Rob meant if no negative comments are received by 8/30/21, the coordination will be granted. (16+14=30)

Thanks
Kenny


Member comment period - 444.900_NN7D_GigHarbor_5758_20201124

Rob Salsgiver
 

The NN7D 444.900 repeater has passed a Board vote and is now submitted for the required 14 day member comment period.  If no negative comments are received by 8/23/21 the NN7D system will receive it's coordination.

Rob Salsgiver - NR3O
2m/70cm Band Chair


Re: HAM WAN, WWARA conversation coordination

Kenny Richards
 

Larry,

I'm glad we were able to bring up and we cover the topic last night. As I said, it was already on the agenda and was a planned activity. You actually caught me off guard by proposing it again, so I assumed you wanted something different than what was planned. (for future reference dropping me a note ahead of the meeting on your request would have made this easier)

As for the next steps, while we can certainly expedite creating coordination for the 5cm band, we still need to follow the policies of the WWARA. I also want to make sure what we do is going to help the situation and not make things worst. I'm sure you understand this kind of activity takes time and while it is great to ask the Board to take action, we are all volunteers with lives. I also want to be sure that when discussing this, we are working with HamWAN, I know Bart is leading this effort, but he isn't 'HamWAN'. There is a complete leadership team behind the group, just like there is for WWARA.

Thanks
Kenny


HAM WAN, WWARA conversation coordination

Larry Watkinson
 

First allow me to thank the group for hearing me last night. At first I felt like more important people were going to be recognized as the topic owner and then Kenny monologued the issues and actually quite well even though when I first brought the idea up as something I wanted to talk about I felt brushed off as not being worthy of this group.

 

I am so glad Randy was inside of my head and went where I wanted to go based on the RCW requiring  coordination in order to be on DNR sites, thanks Randy. I was heading down this path but was holding back not wanting to have all the answers as once it became clear, I was hoping others would see where we needed to go as a coordinating body.

 

Now I further suggest that the Board of Directors take action to  coordinate with Bart the frequencies he is using now on the air and we expedite coordination and build the plan around what he has already on the air and then build other uses  of the band to fit as well. By expediting coordination I believe one hurdle can be overcome which assures that these are Ham related. Please do not turn this effort into a  burecratic stall.

 

Although this is a coordination  body, building a relationship with DNR and providing them a list of coordinated repeaters in full would allow them to inventory rogue repeaters which denigrates our credibility. The cost to Hams is too great to not self-police ourselves and get along with DNR as the price for other sites will kill the affordability

Of having repeaters on the air, this seems like a no brainer to me.

 

Might I also suggest, that new blood in a group when asked to be active be equally heard as I believe  collectively we got there last evening once it was determined that Rob was not present.

 

Respectfully

 

Larry Watkinson KC7CKO


Re: Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

Kenny Richards
 

Fixed - This is the problem with having multiple places on the site with almost the same information.

I removed all the old details about signing up from the 'Fees' page and provided a link to the new Membership page (with the PayPal link).

Thanks for catching and pointing this out, I missed it when making the new page.

73,
Kenny, KU7M

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:44 PM Scott Honaker <scott.n7ss@...> wrote:

Good question.  You can find it under Process-Membership Dues

https://www.wwara.org/coordination-process/membership/

 

Thanks!

 

Scott N7SS

 

From: wwara@groups.io <wwara@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jamie H
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 7:24 PM
To: wwara@groups.io
Subject: [wwara] Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

 

Good Evening,

 

During the meeting, there was mention of a PayPal link to allow members to submit the membership fee. When browsing the Fees section, it only shows a link to the address which then errors to a 404 Page Not Found.

 

Thanks,

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Phone: (360) 340-8886

 


Re: Microwave Link Coordination

Kenny Richards
 

Randy,

To start the process, could you draw up a proposed a 'band plan' which is the first step to coordinating the microwave bands? Based on the immediate need/existing usage in WWA, starting with the 5cm band seems to make the most sense. (and please leverage the new 70cm band plan layout: https://www.wwara.org/documents/70cmbandplan/)

I also remember that Bart presented a paper to the WWARA several years ago, which we should locate and review. I suspect it will provide a useful perspective. 

73,

Kenny, KU7M


Microwave Link Coordination

Randy Neals
 
Edited


Repeater Site Linking was at one time primarily accomplished on the 70cm band, and WWARA coordination polices allow for coordination of Link Frequencies, typically between repeater sites.

The explosion of WiFi device availability, and the availability of Wireless Internet Service Provider equipment has opened up our Microwave bands, but particularly the 13cm, 5cm, 3cm, and 1.2cm Amateur Bands.

There is merit in having a coordination body record and document these fixed location links, particularly as we use wide bandwidth modulation (5MHz, 10MHz, 20 MHz) and have a growing number of these links, which may lead to greater chance of interference.

I would like to propose that the topic of Amateur Microwave Band Link Frequency Coordination be added to a future WWARA meeting agenda, and that we consider the application of WWARA's existing coordination policy on fixed station links, including multipoint sectors that support multiple remote fixed sites.

Effectively, we still do repeater site linking, but it's become digital, and moved to microwave bands. Frequency coordination would allow for greater success in having multiple parties build microwave backbones between fixed sites, and to serve fixed location amateur stations.


Re: Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

Scott Honaker
 

Good question.  You can find it under Process-Membership Dues

https://www.wwara.org/coordination-process/membership/

 

Thanks!

 

Scott N7SS

 

From: wwara@groups.io <wwara@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jamie H
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 7:24 PM
To: wwara@groups.io
Subject: [wwara] Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

 

Good Evening,

 

During the meeting, there was mention of a PayPal link to allow members to submit the membership fee. When browsing the Fees section, it only shows a link to the address which then errors to a 404 Page Not Found.

 

Thanks,

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Phone: (360) 340-8886

 


Website Update - PayPal Membership Link

 

Good Evening,

 

During the meeting, there was mention of a PayPal link to allow members to submit the membership fee. When browsing the Fees section, it only shows a link to the address which then errors to a 404 Page Not Found.

 

Thanks,

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Phone: (360) 340-8886

 


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 05/08/2021 #cal-notice

wwara@groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

General WWARA Meeting

When:
Saturday, 8 May 2021
7:00pm to 9:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

Organizer:
kenny@...

Description:
Q2 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.


General WWARA Meeting - Sat, 05/08/2021 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

wwara@groups.io Calendar <wwara@...>
 

Reminder: General WWARA Meeting

When: Saturday, 8 May 2021, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:Zoom Meeting - Details to Follow

View Event

Organizer: Kenneth Richards kenny@...

Description: Q2 WWARA General Membership Meeting
Will be held via Zoom Conference call, details will be posted and the agenda a week before the meeting.


Re: Repeater Narrow Banding

 

If it would help some repeater operators to make the transition, you could submit a grant proposal for some funding.

I know the Utah VHF Society had a practice of using society funds to upgrade repeaters (I don't know if it still does) as they made changes like going to 20 KHz bandwidth or if a duplexer or similar was needed.

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:10 AM Kenny Richards <kenny@...> wrote:
Rowland,
 
You ask what probably seems like a simple question, but is actually complicated to provide a simple answer to right now. The biggest issue is that right now there is only a high level proposal, with a made up timeline to kickstart a discussion around narrowbanding with the repeater community in Washington. Having these discussions and getting feedback is why the WWARA has been doing talks to interested clubs for the last 12-18 months.
 
I really recommend reading the narrowband whitepaper linked from the WWARA website and I'd be happy to have further discussions with your group and give the presentation. But to answer your question, assuming the proposal outlined in the document is put into effect immediately, repeaters that were not using a narrowband mode in 15 years from now wouldn't be coordinated. 

73,
Kenny, KU7M


--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE / WRJT-215

 


Re: Repeater Narrow Banding

Kenny Richards
 

Rowland,
 
You ask what probably seems like a simple question, but is actually complicated to provide a simple answer to right now. The biggest issue is that right now there is only a high level proposal, with a made up timeline to kickstart a discussion around narrowbanding with the repeater community in Washington. Having these discussions and getting feedback is why the WWARA has been doing talks to interested clubs for the last 12-18 months.
 
I really recommend reading the narrowband whitepaper linked from the WWARA website and I'd be happy to have further discussions with your group and give the presentation. But to answer your question, assuming the proposal outlined in the document is put into effect immediately, repeaters that were not using a narrowband mode in 15 years from now wouldn't be coordinated. 

73,
Kenny, KU7M


Repeater Narrow Banding

Rowland
 

Does this mean that all repeaters will have to be setup for narrow banding?  What of those whose equipment does not have that capability?


Re: General Membership WWARA Meeting - May 8th, 2021 (Zoom Call Info)

Jerry Gaule <ccaisradio@...>
 

Thanks for letting me know sincerely Gerald Gaule ke7ggv pio for region 4/asm for western Washington arrl  

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