CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
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Gerald Wilson
Andy and all, Here are the results (below) from K7VIT--SO(A) AB HP. As alluded by others, CW is not my native language. But each outing is more fun and I believe I'm making progress. In a wry humorous sense for traveling trophy
purposes, I got beat out on one DX QSO first by KI7Y and then by
KN7K. Finally, I came in 3rd place. At the time, I thought
what are the chances of that?--I thought 3 in a row, WVDXC must
still be well represented even with 3 of our heavy-hitters out
of town. Thank you to WS7L, KN7K, for the double mults and
WI7N for the Zone mult. I did a little figuring and those 3
QSO's with mults gave me an additional 4,500+ points. Thanks
guys! Regarding that Zn. 31 call, discussed above, one time I heard him calling CQ. In the listen/copy carefully category--He repeated his Zn. 31 call multiple times and on the last repeat added "/W7." I hope that doesn't bite the other OPs with an NIL or otherwise busted callsign. Unfortunately, I was unable to work the guys at
K8H, but there were still lots of surprises and fun. 73, Jerry K7VIT ------------------------ Contest: CQWWCW
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Gene Bartsch
Hi Jerry,
I was pleased to provide that zone mult to you since it was also a zone mult for ME. I neglected working several zones, especially on 160, that I could have worked easily because I didn't want to bother the east-coast U.S. stations involved and didn't hear any VE stations. This zero-point issue really needs to be addressed and fixed, as others in the club have recently noted.
Looks like I worked K8H on 40, 20, and 15. Heard them on 80 and 10, but lots of people were calling, and I didn't feel like hanging around and fighting the pile-ups for additional Q's with them.
Guess I worked the usual stations on six bands, 160 through 10, including KH6LC, PJ2T, JA3YBK and a few others.
73,
Gene, WI7N
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From: Gerald Wilson <gtwilson@...> To: wvdxc@groups.io Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2022 5:50 pm Subject: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT Andy and all,
Here are the results (below) from K7VIT--SO(A) AB
HP. As alluded by others, CW is not my native language. But
each outing is more fun and I believe I'm making progress.
In a wry humorous sense for traveling trophy
purposes, I got beat out on one DX QSO first by KI7Y and then by
KN7K. Finally, I came in 3rd place. At the time, I thought
what are the chances of that?--I thought 3 in a row, WVDXC must
still be well represented even with 3 of our heavy-hitters out
of town.
Thank you to WS7L, KN7K, for the double mults and
WI7N for the Zone mult. I did a little figuring and those 3
QSO's with mults gave me an additional 4,500+ points. Thanks
guys!
Regarding that Zn. 31 call, discussed above, one
time I heard him calling CQ. In the listen/copy carefully
category--He repeated his Zn. 31 call multiple times and on the
last repeat added "/W7." I hope that doesn't bite the other OPs
with an NIL or otherwise busted callsign.
Unfortunately, I was unable to work the guys at
K8H, but there were still lots of surprises and fun.
73,
Jerry K7VIT
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Contest: CQWWCW
Band QSOs Pts ZN Cty 1.8 1 2 1 1 3.5 8 16 3 2 7 62 168 17 23 14 55 154 16 24 21 82 238 14 18 28 38 103 11 11 Total 246 681 62 79 Score: 96,021
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Sergey, KN7K
Jerry,
Thanks a lot for all spots, you are the best with spotting club members in every Contest! Sergey, KN7K
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Jim Cassidy
One thing to remember about KH7X/W7 is that he was sending zone 3 which would be the determining factor for his location. I think possibly the contest rules required the /W7. This is proof that one should always log what is sent. 73 KI7Y
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 5:50 PM Gerald Wilson <gtwilson@...> wrote:
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KH7X should get a stateside call if he wants to work this contest seriously. Otherwise, he should always send a callsign that accurately represents his country. He probably got spotted as KH7X enough times to have a lot of USA callers and that is why he blew a fuse and wouldn't work any more of them. Easy solution - but not sure he will do anything about it. Tree
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:50 PM Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
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Sergey, KN7K
He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post. Sergey,KN7K
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Scott Rosenfeld
KH7X participates in a large number of contests. It's a contest club with KH6ND as the trustee. Usually they're in Arizona, which is indeed confusing. Sometimes they will sign KH7X/W7, but not always. It makes me wonder why, if it's going to be used primarily in Arizona, they don't just create a new club based in Arizona.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K <kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
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Jim Cassidy
As Scott said KH7X is pretty active. I did think it could have been confusing that he only added the /W7 after sending the call 2 or 3 times. Also fairly fast speed which could have been a problem for the CW challenged
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:24 AM Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
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Jim Cassidy
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact? I usually pick a big gun or someone I know. Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K <kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
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One strategy is to just call CQ until whatever you need calls you and move on. Typically, it doesn't take too long. But yes - working someone you know, or a big gun is normally no issue. Tree
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
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Ka6bim
Jim, I usually try for a Canadian in the zone, but you are on the right track with someone you know or work regularly. Especially if you are primarily S&P. If you are calling CQ, they will usually come to you. I work anyone who calls me, it is quick and gets them out of the way. Dupes are OK. If it is a triplicate I will mention it though….
Dave ka6bim
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Alex Tkatch
KH7X as some other KH6 and KH2 residing in US and operating without / are sure confusing. However for for zone 3, 4, 5 to find Canadian is easy enough. Callsign glowing in green or red is not a reason immediately jump and call. I would advise to find VE. US calling US in DX contest for 0 points is an intended interferer jamming some DX signals. When it happens 100s of times (and it does!) it’s really annoying. WW Phone is ridiculous, WWCW is much better. I will not work any US in WW - at least for the first 40 hours of the contest and let them know too if they call 10 times. I hope this topic doesn’t come up again- we did discussed it last year and yet discussing it again :)
On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Sergey, KN7K <kn7k73@...> wrote:
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Alex Tkatch
Yes - Find 🇨🇦 🍁 !!!
On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
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Jim Cassidy
Thanks Dave, I usually do concentrate on the Canadians and wait until Sunday to check for missing zones.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 10:03 AM Ka6bim <dtucker423@...> wrote:
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Scott Rosenfeld
I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun. As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again. That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL. I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds. That's the cost of being a superstation. Scott N7JI
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
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I guess us 'little pistols' have slightly
different mindset
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1. one in the hand is worth 2 in the bush ... if the mult is there, get it (station failures, band shifts etc. can leave you empty handed if you defer until later) 2. I ONLY call if the CQing station is making numerous calls without a reply ... I know better than to interrupt a serious run for that ... 3. I ALWAYS say THANKS FOR THE MULT to let them know I needed the zone. Like Dave, with such a simple exchange in WW I can have the station in the log and on the next call in 5 seconds or less ... I timed it. Here's a question: if you log a "W" station and you get the exchange or call WRONG, do we get penalized? If so, THEN we're talking a good reason not to work them! 73 Kevin On 11/29/2022 12:11 PM, Jim Cassidy
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Alex Tkatch
10sec X 300….. do the math. Finding Canadian is within rules too
On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
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Scott Rosenfeld
So maybe they should be 0.25 points each. Not enough to warrant working them intentionally but at least worth something.
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Gene Bartsch
I mostly did S&P in the contest. I did drop down to 160 briefly a few times just to pick up a few stations/mults. The only Zone 5 station I heard on 160 was K3LR, but I decided not to call him. A contest ought to be fun, and if I might piss off someone by calling them, I'd rather just miss their zone and have a lower score. I did look for VE stations in Zone 5 during the brief times I was on that band, but didn't hear any.
Personally I'm just fine with zero point stations calling me, but others may have a different opinion...and I'm OK with that, too. I DO think the rules ought to be changed to avoid pissing ANYONE off, because why would we want rules that annoy/anger anyone, but that's just my personal opinion.
73,
Gene, WI7N
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From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> To: wvdxc@groups.io Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT So maybe they should be 0.25 points each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally but at least worth something.
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Gerald Wilson
Jim and all, Thanks for reading my post. Being what I'd call a fairly little pistol but with some good tools over here, I don't know if I qualify to give advice. I will offer an opinion on a couple of things:
Again, this was a fun contest. I've been playing
in contests for awhile because I discovered early on that it was
one of the best ways to work DX. 😁 I learn from you all on the
air, at the club meetings/presentations, during eyeball QSO's,
and from this reflector/news-group. Thank you and 73, Jerry K7VIT On 11/29/2022 17:44, Jim Cassidy wrote:
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