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Bill, WB6JJJ #10056 For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory… Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can’t be the same… Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf —————————————- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 – 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.)
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Tree #10057 Simple rule - log what was sent. The log checker will deal with it after that. Tree toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:43 PM Bill, WB6JJJ <bill@...> wrote: For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory… Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can’t be the same… Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf —————————————- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 – 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.)
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Jim Cassidy #10058 Does that part of the rules say for multiple entries, as in if you entered as WB6JJJ and WB6JJJ/7? In any case Tree's advice is the best. I have been in many discussions about what to log, and bottom line is you can never go wrong by logging what is sent. Even if the guy is sending the wrong zone its still log what he sends. 73 toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:20 PM Tree <tree@...> wrote: Simple rule - log what was sent. The log checker will deal with it after that. Tree On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:43 PM Bill, WB6JJJ <bill@...> wrote: For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory… Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can’t be the same… Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf —————————————- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 – 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.)
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roguecpa@aol.com #10059 To me it is a contradiction. Tree's solution is practical, but the ARRL should clean up their language. I support you contacting the contest folks and have them fix the wording to whatever the rules are intended to accomplish. Good catch!! 73 de Jeff KQ7I toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Tree <tree@...> To: wvdxc@groups.io Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:19 pm Subject: Re: [wvdxc] ARRL 10 Meter rules issue Simple rule - log what was sent. The log checker will deal with it after that. Tree On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:43 PM Bill, WB6JJJ <bill@...> wrote: For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory… Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can’t be the same… Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf —————————————- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 – 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.)
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Ka6bim #10062 Bill it looks like a typo to me With the example given, I believe they left out the word “not” as in does not make the identifier unique. It is worth a question to HQ. Dave ka6bim On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:43 PM, Bill, WB6JJJ <bill@...> wrote: For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory… Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can’t be the same… Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf —————————————- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 – 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.) Dave ka6bim@...
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Hisashi Todd Fujinaka - K7FU #10068 But still, WNWL (work now, worry later). toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, 30 Nov 2022, Ka6bim wrote: Bill it looks like a typo to me With the example given, I believe they left out the word ?not? as in does not make the identifier unique. It is worth a question to HQ. Dave ka6bim On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:43 PM, Bill, WB6JJJ <bill@...> wrote: For the Ten Meter contest in a couple of weeks, I was looking at the rules and found one spot that seemed to be contradictory? Under Rules for Entry, paragraph 2.1 states that a call sign modifier DOES make the call sign unique. But the example states that W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign. Which is it? If they are unique then they can?t be the same? Is this something that I should contact the ARRL for clarification? Typo? Bill WB6JJJ https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rules.pdf <https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/10M-Rulespdf> ?????????????- Rules for Entry Version 1.2 ? 15 Jul 2022 Conditions of Entry COND.2 Multiple entries COND.2.1 Individuals and stations may submit multiple entries per contest under different call signs. Using a call sign modifier does make the call sign unique. (Example- W1AW and W1AW/7 are treated as the same call sign.) Dave ka6bim@... -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - htodd@... BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee
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