|
Thanks for the very cordial greeting
It was
73 LID :)
Yes, you are very well recognized in Da Lid Country
On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
Jerry, I try to get the zone from the VEs but of course you do have to work at least 1 USA. You can do what I did, for both zone 3 and USA, called W7RM and I am pretty sure it was Alex that called me a LID. Its always nice to get some recognition.
I am looking forward to the 10m. But fists this weekend the 160 test.
73 KI7Y
Jerry as you could tell I was totally kidding. I got the zones by working VE stations but I did not get the USA country mults. If I was seriously competing, I wouldn't hesitate to contact W/K stations for a mult.
Yes conditions are predicted to be good for the 10 M contest!!! Should be fun!! Hope to work you and everyone else on both modes.
73 de Jeff KQ7I
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Wilson < gtwilson@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2022 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
Hi Jeff KQ7I,
Well obviously, working a Canadian won't get you a
W/K country multiplier. 😉 The object there would be to get a
missing zone. There were a couple of the low bands where I was
trying to work all the VE's that I could locate. If you can't
get 'em all, get the ones you can.
I still had a low band missing zone or two where I
would have called a W/K station. That speaks to my station's
limitation.
Here comes the 10m contest*. Everyone stay
healthy out there!
73, Jerry K7VIT
* Not a traveling trophy test but fun
nonetheless.
On 12/1/2022 05:31, roguecpa via
groups.io wrote:
Wondering how "finding
Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points
each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally
but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules
too
On Nov 29, 2022, at
10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big
gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick
someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can
hear if I don't think I'm going to hear
that zone again.
That someone is probably a
superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape
about it at all, but I'm following the
contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10
seconds.
That's the cost of being a
superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue,
Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...>
wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how
to choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone
I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become
excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we
had a large number of those and
probably many really did not need zone
3
On
Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey,
KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He
was spotted as KH7X many times as
he send few times KH7X and one
time /W7, it confused some people
if they are quick to enter QSO and
go on, also they probably spotted
his call on his first transmit and
missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got
a response that I outlined in
another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
It was
73 LID :)
Yes, you are very well recognized in Da Lid Country
On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
Jerry, I try to get the zone from the VEs but of course you do have to work at least 1 USA. You can do what I did, for both zone 3 and USA, called W7RM and I am pretty sure it was Alex that called me a LID. Its always nice to get some recognition.
I am looking forward to the 10m. But fists this weekend the 160 test.
73 KI7Y
Jerry as you could tell I was totally kidding. I got the zones by working VE stations but I did not get the USA country mults. If I was seriously competing, I wouldn't hesitate to contact W/K stations for a mult.
Yes conditions are predicted to be good for the 10 M contest!!! Should be fun!! Hope to work you and everyone else on both modes.
73 de Jeff KQ7I
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Wilson < gtwilson@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2022 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
Hi Jeff KQ7I,
Well obviously, working a Canadian won't get you a
W/K country multiplier. 😉 The object there would be to get a
missing zone. There were a couple of the low bands where I was
trying to work all the VE's that I could locate. If you can't
get 'em all, get the ones you can.
I still had a low band missing zone or two where I
would have called a W/K station. That speaks to my station's
limitation.
Here comes the 10m contest*. Everyone stay
healthy out there!
73, Jerry K7VIT
* Not a traveling trophy test but fun
nonetheless.
On 12/1/2022 05:31, roguecpa via
groups.io wrote:
Wondering how "finding
Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points
each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally
but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules
too
On Nov 29, 2022, at
10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big
gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick
someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can
hear if I don't think I'm going to hear
that zone again.
That someone is probably a
superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape
about it at all, but I'm following the
contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10
seconds.
That's the cost of being a
superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue,
Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...>
wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how
to choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone
I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become
excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we
had a large number of those and
probably many really did not need zone
3
On
Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey,
KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He
was spotted as KH7X many times as
he send few times KH7X and one
time /W7, it confused some people
if they are quick to enter QSO and
go on, also they probably spotted
his call on his first transmit and
missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got
a response that I outlined in
another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Jerry, I try to get the zone from the VEs but of course you do have to work at least 1 USA. You can do what I did, for both zone 3 and USA, called W7RM and I am pretty sure it was Alex that called me a LID. Its always nice to get some recognition.
I am looking forward to the 10m. But fists this weekend the 160 test.
73 KI7Y
Jerry as you could tell I was totally kidding. I got the zones by working VE stations but I did not get the USA country mults. If I was seriously competing, I wouldn't hesitate to contact W/K stations for a mult.
Yes conditions are predicted to be good for the 10 M contest!!! Should be fun!! Hope to work you and everyone else on both modes.
73 de Jeff KQ7I
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Wilson < gtwilson@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2022 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
Hi Jeff KQ7I,
Well obviously, working a Canadian won't get you a
W/K country multiplier. 😉 The object there would be to get a
missing zone. There were a couple of the low bands where I was
trying to work all the VE's that I could locate. If you can't
get 'em all, get the ones you can.
I still had a low band missing zone or two where I
would have called a W/K station. That speaks to my station's
limitation.
Here comes the 10m contest*. Everyone stay
healthy out there!
73, Jerry K7VIT
* Not a traveling trophy test but fun
nonetheless.
On 12/1/2022 05:31, roguecpa via
groups.io wrote:
Wondering how "finding
Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points
each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally
but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules
too
On Nov 29, 2022, at
10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big
gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick
someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can
hear if I don't think I'm going to hear
that zone again.
That someone is probably a
superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape
about it at all, but I'm following the
contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10
seconds.
That's the cost of being a
superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue,
Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...>
wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how
to choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone
I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become
excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we
had a large number of those and
probably many really did not need zone
3
On
Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey,
KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He
was spotted as KH7X many times as
he send few times KH7X and one
time /W7, it confused some people
if they are quick to enter QSO and
go on, also they probably spotted
his call on his first transmit and
missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got
a response that I outlined in
another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Jerry as you could tell I was totally kidding. I got the zones by working VE stations but I did not get the USA country mults. If I was seriously competing, I wouldn't hesitate to contact W/K stations for a mult.
Yes conditions are predicted to be good for the 10 M contest!!! Should be fun!! Hope to work you and everyone else on both modes.
73 de Jeff KQ7I
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Wilson <gtwilson@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2022 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
Hi Jeff KQ7I,
Well obviously, working a Canadian won't get you a
W/K country multiplier. 😉 The object there would be to get a
missing zone. There were a couple of the low bands where I was
trying to work all the VE's that I could locate. If you can't
get 'em all, get the ones you can.
I still had a low band missing zone or two where I
would have called a W/K station. That speaks to my station's
limitation.
Here comes the 10m contest*. Everyone stay
healthy out there!
73, Jerry K7VIT
* Not a traveling trophy test but fun
nonetheless.
On 12/1/2022 05:31, roguecpa via
groups.io wrote:
Wondering how "finding
Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points
each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally
but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules
too
On Nov 29, 2022, at
10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big
gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick
someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can
hear if I don't think I'm going to hear
that zone again.
That someone is probably a
superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape
about it at all, but I'm following the
contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10
seconds.
That's the cost of being a
superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue,
Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...>
wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how
to choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone
I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become
excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we
had a large number of those and
probably many really did not need zone
3
On
Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey,
KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He
was spotted as KH7X many times as
he send few times KH7X and one
time /W7, it confused some people
if they are quick to enter QSO and
go on, also they probably spotted
his call on his first transmit and
missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got
a response that I outlined in
another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Hi Jeff KQ7I,
Well obviously, working a Canadian won't get you a
W/K country multiplier. 😉 The object there would be to get a
missing zone. There were a couple of the low bands where I was
trying to work all the VE's that I could locate. If you can't
get 'em all, get the ones you can.
I still had a low band missing zone or two where I
would have called a W/K station. That speaks to my station's
limitation.
Here comes the 10m contest*. Everyone stay
healthy out there!
73, Jerry K7VIT
* Not a traveling trophy test but fun
nonetheless.
On 12/1/2022 05:31, roguecpa via
groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Wondering how "finding
Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points
each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally
but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules
too
On Nov 29, 2022, at
10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big
gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick
someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can
hear if I don't think I'm going to hear
that zone again.
That someone is probably a
superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape
about it at all, but I'm following the
contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10
seconds.
That's the cost of being a
superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue,
Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...>
wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how
to choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone
I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become
excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we
had a large number of those and
probably many really did not need zone
3
On
Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey,
KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He
was spotted as KH7X many times as
he send few times KH7X and one
time /W7, it confused some people
if they are quick to enter QSO and
go on, also they probably spotted
his call on his first transmit and
missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got
a response that I outlined in
another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Wondering how "finding Canadians" will generate a W/K country mult...
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules too
On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again.
That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds.
That's the cost of being a superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Thank you Jerry - I will answer your "mult" calls in the future and sure appreciate your spots. Sounds like a fair barter :) - especially in SSB. Don't be shy to call - we need spots!
With stats Bill published today about number of hams in US - 779,000, CQ WW need to change rules. Either change 0 points to 2 points or give automatic points/mult credit on each operated band for your own country. KH6 or E7 don't get flooded like US is, so for them existing rules are okay. It's not D2UY or K8H fault that there are no mult from their country, but they need to be equally rewarded as countries with some ham population.
Most active countries and most giving to HAM are in bad position. Don't know whats DL or JA situation is, but probably some 0 points as well. Much smaller ham population, so issue is not as pronounced as in US?
Anyone wants to hear one more time about unfair SSB band assignments - 40, 20, 15M are "protected" from the USA ham pollution and not from others? :) How is that happened? Canada not only get points in WW, but also go below 14150 to have protected band to work EU? What a nonsense toward most active and most giving country in the Hobby!
With that - Cycle 25 is on the rise and more fun to come!
73, Alex KU1CW
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 05:46:31 PM PST, Gerald Wilson <gtwilson@...> wrote:
Jim and all,
Thanks for reading my post. Being what I'd call a
fairly little pistol but with some good tools over here, I don't
know if I qualify to give advice. I will offer an opinion on a
couple of things:
- How I choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact:
Being a little sensitive about this subject of interrupting a
station with a 0-pointer, I
listen first to try to determine if the station is in the
middle of a big run. I feel a bit more comfortable making a
call if the station is calling CQ and not getting responses.
Despite Alex's strongly stated response, he has given me a
mult in the past. Thank you Alex KU1CW! 😉 I also look for
gentlemen/gentlewomen of the hobby and their teammates such as
K3LR, K9CT, K1SFA, K5ZD, WX0B, and of course fellow
club-members like W7RM/K2PO, KU1CW, K7ZS/KT7E, KA6BIM, W7YAQ,
and others. As other have mentioned, I also say "thank you
for the mult" on phone but just TU on CW. Because of my
appreciation, I spot my benefactor especially when they've
been repeatedly CQ-ing without a response.
- Copy their Zone to be sure (or words to that
effect):
That would ensure one did not enter a Zone 31 report instead
of a Zone 3 for sure. I am using N1MM+ to send my exchange.
In CW contests, I will do S&P and vary my speed according
to those sending CQ. During the last test, I varied my XMIT
speed between ~18 and 33 WPM. I most often XMIT at about
25-27 WPM. My XMIT delay is set to several milliseconds to
avoid hot-keying the amp. Often when the software unkeys to
receive I am getting the "U" of his TU if he's speedy.
Perhaps I am too slow (I don't think so), or perhaps some
other stations are relying on the software auto-fill. No
matter, it is the copying station's responsibility to copy
what was sent correctly (and honestly).
Again, this was a fun contest. I've been playing
in contests for awhile because I discovered early on that it was
one of the best ways to work DX. 😁 I learn from you all on the
air, at the club meetings/presentations, during eyeball QSO's,
and from this reflector/news-group.
Thank you and 73,
Jerry K7VIT
On 11/29/2022 17:44, Jim Cassidy wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for
a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At
KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably
many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17
AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He was
spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and
one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to
enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call
on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I
outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
Jim and all,
Thanks for reading my post. Being what I'd call a
fairly little pistol but with some good tools over here, I don't
know if I qualify to give advice. I will offer an opinion on a
couple of things:
- How I choose who to call for a zero point
multiplier contact:
Being a little sensitive about this subject of interrupting a
station with a 0-pointer, I
listen first to try to determine if the station is in the
middle of a big run. I feel a bit more comfortable making a
call if the station is calling CQ and not getting responses.
Despite Alex's strongly stated response, he has given me a
mult in the past. Thank you Alex KU1CW! 😉 I also look for
gentlemen/gentlewomen of the hobby and their teammates such as
K3LR, K9CT, K1SFA, K5ZD, WX0B, and of course fellow
club-members like W7RM/K2PO, KU1CW, K7ZS/KT7E, KA6BIM, W7YAQ,
and others. As other have mentioned, I also say "thank you
for the mult" on phone but just TU on CW. Because of my
appreciation, I spot my benefactor especially when they've
been repeatedly CQ-ing without a response.
- Copy their Zone to be sure (or words to that
effect):
That would ensure one did not enter a Zone 31 report instead
of a Zone 3 for sure. I am using N1MM+ to send my exchange.
In CW contests, I will do S&P and vary my speed according
to those sending CQ. During the last test, I varied my XMIT
speed between ~18 and 33 WPM. I most often XMIT at about
25-27 WPM. My XMIT delay is set to several milliseconds to
avoid hot-keying the amp. Often when the software unkeys to
receive I am getting the "U" of his TU if he's speedy.
Perhaps I am too slow (I don't think so), or perhaps some
other stations are relying on the software auto-fill. No
matter, it is the copying station's responsibility to copy
what was sent correctly (and honestly).
Again, this was a fun contest. I've been playing
in contests for awhile because I discovered early on that it was
one of the best ways to work DX. 😁 I learn from you all on the
air, at the club meetings/presentations, during eyeball QSO's,
and from this reflector/news-group.
Thank you and 73,
Jerry K7VIT
On 11/29/2022 17:44, Jim Cassidy wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for
a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At
KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably
many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17
AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...>
wrote:
He was
spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and
one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to
enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call
on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I
outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
|
|
|
I mostly did S&P in the contest. I did drop down to 160 briefly a few times just to pick up a few stations/mults. The only Zone 5 station I heard on 160 was K3LR, but I decided not to call him. A contest ought to be fun, and if I might piss off someone by calling them, I'd rather just miss their zone and have a lower score. I did look for VE stations in Zone 5 during the brief times I was on that band, but didn't hear any.
Personally I'm just fine with zero point stations calling me, but others may have a different opinion...and I'm OK with that, too. I DO think the rules ought to be changed to avoid pissing ANYONE off, because why would we want rules that annoy/anger anyone, but that's just my personal opinion.
73,
Gene, WI7N
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...>
To: wvdxc@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [wvdxc] CQWW-CW 2022 - K7VIT
So maybe they should be 0.25 points each.
Not enough to warrant working them intentionally but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules too
On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again.
That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds.
That's the cost of being a superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
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So maybe they should be 0.25 points each. Not enough to warrant working them intentionally but at least worth something.
10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules too On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again.
That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds.
That's the cost of being a superstation.
Scott N7JI On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote: Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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10sec X 300….. do the math.
Finding Canadian is within rules too
On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Scott Rosenfeld <ars.n7ji@...> wrote:
I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again.
That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds.
That's the cost of being a superstation.
Scott N7JI On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote: Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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Kevin LaHaie
I guess us 'little pistols' have slightly
different mindset
1. one in the hand is worth 2 in the bush ... if the mult is
there, get it (station failures, band shifts etc. can leave you
empty handed if you defer until later)
2. I ONLY call if the CQing station is making numerous calls
without a reply ... I know better than to interrupt a serious run
for that ...
3. I ALWAYS say THANKS FOR THE MULT to let them know I needed the
zone.
Like Dave, with such a simple exchange in WW I can have the
station in the log and on the next call in 5 seconds or less ... I
timed it.
Here's a question: if you log a "W" station and you get the
exchange or call WRONG, do we get penalized? If so, THEN we're
talking a good reason not to work them!
73 Kevin
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Thanks Dave, I usually do concentrate on the
Canadians and wait until Sunday to check for missing zones.
Jim, I usually try for a
Canadian in the zone, but you are on the right track with
someone you know or work regularly. Especially if you are
primarily S&P. If you are calling CQ, they will usually
come to you. I work anyone who calls me, it is quick and
gets them out of the way. Dupes are OK. If it is a
triplicate I will mention it though….
Dave ka6bim
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I hate to admit it, but a big gun is just that - a big gun.
As a QRP entrant, I'm going to pick someone from zone 4 or zone 5 that I can hear if I don't think I'm going to hear that zone again.
That someone is probably a superstation. K3LR. K9CT. W3LPL.
I'm sorry if they get bent out of shape about it at all, but I'm following the contest rules. And the whole QSO takes 10 seconds.
That's the cost of being a superstation.
Scott N7JI
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote: Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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Thanks Dave, I usually do concentrate on the Canadians and wait until Sunday to check for missing zones.
Jim, I usually try for a Canadian in the zone, but you are on the right track with someone you know or work regularly. Especially if you are primarily S&P. If you are calling CQ, they will usually come to you. I work anyone who calls me, it is quick and gets them out of the way. Dupes are OK. If it is a triplicate I will mention it though….
Dave ka6bim On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Jim Cassidy <jimki7y@...> wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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KH7X as some other KH6 and KH2 residing in US and operating without / are sure confusing.
However for for zone 3, 4, 5 to find Canadian is easy enough. Callsign glowing in green or red is not a reason immediately jump and call.
I would advise to find VE.
US calling US in DX contest for 0 points is an intended interferer jamming some DX signals.
When it happens 100s of times (and it does!) it’s really annoying.
WW Phone is ridiculous, WWCW is much better.
I will not work any US in WW - at least for the first 40 hours of the contest and let them know too if they call 10 times.
I hope this topic doesn’t come up again- we did discussed it last year and yet discussing it again :)
On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Sergey, KN7K <kn7k73@...> wrote:
He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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Jim, I usually try for a Canadian in the zone, but you are on the right track with someone you know or work regularly. Especially if you are primarily S&P. If you are calling CQ, they will usually come to you. I work anyone who calls me, it is quick and gets them out of the way. Dupes are OK. If it is a triplicate I will mention it though….
Dave ka6bim On Nov 29, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote:
Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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Tree
One strategy is to just call CQ until whatever you need calls you and move on.
Typically, it doesn't take too long.
But yes - working someone you know, or a big gun is normally no issue.
Tree
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:44 AM Jim Cassidy < jimki7y@...> wrote: Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3 On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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Does anyone have advice about how to choose who to call for a zero point multiplier contact?
I usually pick a big gun or someone I know.
Sometimes those QSOs can become excessive. At KT7E in the WW SSB we had a large number of those and probably many really did not need zone 3
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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As Scott said KH7X is pretty active. I did think it could have been confusing that he only added the /W7 after sending the call 2 or 3 times. Also fairly fast speed which could have been a problem for the CW challenged
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 9:24 AM Scott Rosenfeld < ars.n7ji@...> wrote: KH7X participates in a large number of contests. It's a contest club with KH6ND as the trustee. Usually they're in Arizona, which is indeed confusing.
Sometimes they will sign KH7X/W7, but not always.
It makes me wonder why, if it's going to be used primarily in Arizona, they don't just create a new club based in Arizona.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:17 AM Sergey, KN7K < kn7k73@...> wrote: He was spotted as KH7X many times as he send few times KH7X and one time /W7, it confused some people if they are quick to enter QSO and go on, also they probably spotted his call on his first transmit and missed /W7 on the last.
I did call him for zone 3, but got a response that I outlined in another post.
Sergey,KN7K
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