Bodnar configuration


kk6pr
 

I'm planning to connect two Bodnar dual-output reference clocks to my 4 KiwiSDRs.  I already have one working successfully with my AirSpy R2 using its default configuration.

I understand I will have to change the Kiwi/admin/Config settings:

- turn on External ADC clock

- enter External clock frequency (66666600 Hz), and

- turn off GPS clock correction.

Will any of the other Bodnar configuration settings (besides frequency) need to be changed to work with the KiwiSDRs?

 


Glenn Elmore
 

Once the Kiwi:admin:config page has the external clock frequency entered, and I would suggest 66.600000 MHz as a better choice for the setting at both the Kiwi and Bodnar due to improved spur/noise performance of smaller integers, as long as there is ~1V p-p at the Kiwi it should run OK.  External Clock over-rides native GPS Kiwi correction so I don't think turning it off is necessary.  You'll need to deal with fan out and any gain, transformation to have the single Bodnar output drive 4 Kiwis simultaneously. 

You may have to come up with your own numbers (bottom of the Bodnar configurator) in order to find a good solution for simultaneous 10 and [66.6] MHz outputs from a dual output Bodnar, if that's what you are to use. If the configurator won't give you what you need, 'ClockBuilder' (should be available on the Analog Devices site since Silicon Labs has changed hands a couple of times) will give you more detail and degrees of freedom than Bodnar. Again depends on which Bodnar unit you use, I think. The newer ones use the SI5328 though SI5351 may be a stand-in for the register values to generate the frequencies you need.  I can't tell if you need to keep the 10 MHz or can dedicate a Bodnar to the Kiwis. If that, then there should be no problem using Bodnar's configurator.

Glenn n6gn


On 8/3/22 16:11, kk6pr wrote:

I'm planning to connect two Bodnar dual-output reference clocks to my 4 KiwiSDRs.  I already have one working successfully with my AirSpy R2 using its default configuration.

I understand I will have to change the Kiwi/admin/Config settings:

- turn on External ADC clock

- enter External clock frequency (66666600 Hz), and

- turn off GPS clock correction.

Will any of the other Bodnar configuration settings (besides frequency) need to be changed to work with the KiwiSDRs?

 


kk6pr
 

Thanks Glenn, I'll use 66.6 Mhz.

These are the units I purchased: https://v3.airspy.us/product/lb-gpsdo-1/

I did look on Leo's website and found instructions, although I don't know if they pertain to this particular model (which doesn't appear to be listed).

If I understand correctly, I'll be able to set both Output 1 and Output 2 to 66.6MHz and then hit "Find" to configure the 'Internal PLL Parameters", then "Update" to save.

Later, if I figure out how to use one of these for all four Kiwis - I'll have a spare.


Glenn Elmore
 

With the dual-output model you'll be fine setting them both to the same frequency.  You may be able to drive two pairs of Kiwis, one pair from each output possibly with the output current setting turned up, if you keep the cables pretty short.

An easy way to connect the external clock into a Kiwi is to use an SMD connector, soldered to the available pads,  and an inexpensive adapter cable

with the SMA end mounted in a 1/4" hole punched or drilled in a Kiwi enclosure end plate.

You'll still need to adapt, and perhaps tee, to the BNC on the Bodnar but isn't critical.  If you use two short BNC <==> SMA cables to a tee on each output  you can probably get away with four Kiwis on a single Bodnar.


On 8/3/22 16:56, kk6pr wrote:

Thanks Glenn, I'll use 66.6 Mhz.

These are the units I purchased: https://v3.airspy.us/product/lb-gpsdo-1/

I did look on Leo's website and found instructions, although I don't know if they pertain to this particular model (which doesn't appear to be listed).

If I understand correctly, I'll be able to set both Output 1 and Output 2 to 66.6MHz and then hit "Find" to configure the 'Internal PLL Parameters", then "Update" to save.

Later, if I figure out how to use one of these for all four Kiwis - I'll have a spare.


Edward (W3ENR / K3WRG)
 

I literally just got two Kiwis up with the Bodnar minis within the last hour.  Photo below.

Attempts so far with a splitter cable to get one Bodnar to feed two Kiwis unsuccessful, but I'll try again soon.

Thanks to KC3AJV (Rob), who puts together rockets for NASA Wallops Island, for the soldering job, which was beyond my middle aged eyes and hand.

What level output should I select for the Bodnars?  I just left it at default.

Am waiting for a second mag loop and a Beaglebone AI-64 board ... hope to make a another leap forward when those items arrive in the coming days


Glenn Elmore
 

Try 32 mA from a single Bodnar  output and see if it will drive the tee of two Kiwis with equal length cables.



On Aug 3, 2022 6:00 PM, "Edward (W3ENR / K3WRG)" <manager@...> wrote:
I literally just got two Kiwis up with the Bodnar minis within the last hour.  Photo below.

Attempts so far with a splitter cable to get one Bodnar to feed two Kiwis unsuccessful, but I'll try again soon.

Thanks to KC3AJV (Rob), who puts together rockets for NASA Wallops Island, for the soldering job, which was beyond my middle aged eyes and hand.

What level output should I select for the Bodnars?  I just left it at default.

Am waiting for a second mag loop and a Beaglebone AI-64 board ... hope to make a another leap forward when those items arrive in the coming days



WA2TP - Tom
 

As a note, I found that I had to power cycle the bodnar to get a lock on the already powered up Kiwi.