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Re: Recognizing mode?

KP3FT <kp3ft@...>
 

I don't think it will, for the same reason PSK stayed popular and generally morphed into an impersonal macro-exchange mode... quick confirmed contacts to fill logbooks and/or get awards.  FT8 allows a lot of contacts without the fake macros like "hope to work you again", bla, bla, bla.

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 12:02:47 PM EDT, Philip Salley <pcsalley@...> wrote:


Thy said:

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.”

Only time will tell as is was said the horseless carriage was . . . . .   Phil / K4PO

 

 

 

Re: Digital Mode Recognition

Doug K7KY
 

Mode recognition comes with experience.  The ORCA DIGITAL NET experiments with modes nearly every Tuesday.  TxID & RxID are your mode recognition partners.  For general QSOing, you should always have them active.  When working a digital net, you should have RxID active & TxID off.  NCS runs with RxID on so you will follow every mode change.  Soon, you will recognize the more common modes like MFSK, OLIVIA, THOR, PSK, etc, by sight & sound.

ORCA DIGITAL NET is a digital-traffic training and practice net.  We engage active members in all phases of digital traffic-handling using the NBEMS software by Dave Freese W1HKJ.  Our curriculum engages each active member three times each net.  Not all Ops are active; most check 'in&out' as monitors and many monitor w/o checking in.  Monitoring the net will expose you to numerous digital modes as we experiment with matching mode to band condx every week.  We also run Mode ShootOuts to compare modes directly.  The current state of propagation is certainly challenging and provides lots of opportunity to experiment with modes.  Listen in if you can; the 80m band has been long lately and we have ck-ins from central and eastern US. Monitoring ORCA is best for us as we can comfortably accommodate 10-12 active stations each session.  Normally, less than half our ck-ins are active. Monitor or check 'in&out' to learn the strategies and tactics of digital communications.  Tues 0130z, 3.581+1500, MFSK-32.  73 Doug K7KY

Re: Recognizing mode?

Philip Salley
 

George,

Some folks just don’t get it that WSJTX et al is designed, and intended for weak signal work.  Though maybe 3 S units difference between my 5 watt JT8 signal and a Kwatt, in any given receive at any given location, there are those that continue to needlessly waste power for reason unknown.  Phil / K4PO

 

 

Re: Recognizing mode?

Philip Salley
 

Thy said:

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.”

Only time will tell as is was said the horseless carriage was . . . . .   Phil / K4PO

 

 

 

Re: Sending CI/V commands with macros

Bo Barry <bobarr@...>
 

Wow! Thanks to both of you.
The 817 has a very limited number of commands and some things like changing CW speed, etc aren't on it.

But I found how to simply modify the EEPROM values.

So it should be interesting to try,    Thanks!

Reading the fldigi macro pages again was informative too.

At 78, I'm still trying to learn! A bit slower tho.
73, Bo W4GHV 

Re: Fldigi-4.1.02.15 errors

F8BMB Jean-Paul
 

Hello Pat, ON2AD
Where have you found  the version 4.1.2.10???
73s
Jean-Paul F8BMB


Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com


Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 13:22, ON2AD Pat <ON2AD.Pat@...> a écrit :
Hi,

I have install the Fldigi-4.1.02.15 (beta version I know) and found two problems:
1. WX macro come with the error
     QRZ error:
     recv: No error
I use the EBBL but with other the same error

2. QRZ.com doesn't work in this version but in the version4.1.2.10 it's work very well
   In Menu UI/QSO it have enabled Auto-fill Country and Azimuth
   In Menu Web/ Call Lookup in the Web Browser lookup panel, I have enabled None
   In Menu Web Call Lookup in the Data base lookup panel, I have enabled QRZ.com in User name ON2AD and in Password my Password and yes it's correct.

73 de Pat ON2AD

Re: Question

Cliff
 

A fix for the WX function is in progress. When a new Alpha is announced try that.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA

On Mar 13, 2019, at 09:15, Rafo Ortiz via Groups.Io <kp3lr@...> wrote:

greetings I'm trying to work the macro in the WX fldigi and I have entered the macro (wx: ....) edit it by adding the area code and the data does not come out someone has it working and can give me an idea
thanks in advance


Question

Rafo Ortiz <kp3lr@...>
 

greetings I'm trying to work the macro in the WX fldigi and I have entered the macro (wx: ....) edit it by adding the area code and the data does not come out someone has it working and can give me an idea
thanks in advance

Re: Fldigi-4.1.02.15 errors

ON2AD Pat
 

Tnx Cliff for the Info

73 de Pat ON2AD

Re: Fldigi-4.1.02.15 errors

Cliff
 

Pat,

Dave’s working on the .16 alpha that will fix that. 

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA

On Mar 13, 2019, at 07:22, ON2AD Pat <ON2AD.Pat@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have install the Fldigi-4.1.02.15 (beta version I know) and found two problems:
1. WX macro come with the error
     QRZ error:
     recv: No error
I use the EBBL but with other the same error

2. QRZ.com doesn't work in this version but in the version4.1.2.10 it's work very well
   In Menu UI/QSO it have enabled Auto-fill Country and Azimuth
   In Menu Web/ Call Lookup in the Web Browser lookup panel, I have enabled None
   In Menu Web Call Lookup in the Data base lookup panel, I have enabled QRZ.com in User name ON2AD and in Password my Password and yes it's correct.

73 de Pat ON2AD

Fldigi-4.1.02.15 errors

ON2AD Pat
 

Hi,

I have install the Fldigi-4.1.02.15 (beta version I know) and found two problems:
1. WX macro come with the error
     QRZ error:
     recv: No error
I use the EBBL but with other the same error

2. QRZ.com doesn't work in this version but in the version4.1.2.10 it's work very well
   In Menu UI/QSO it have enabled Auto-fill Country and Azimuth
   In Menu Web/ Call Lookup in the Web Browser lookup panel, I have enabled None
   In Menu Web Call Lookup in the Data base lookup panel, I have enabled QRZ.com in User name ON2AD and in Password my Password and yes it's correct.

73 de Pat ON2AD

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 Contest selection

 

Just click on the info that you want to save, (Call Sign must be first), and it should get transferred to N3FJP. To save it to N3FJP click the save button, just below the broom.

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bo Barry
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:55 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.1.01 Contest selection

 

I'm scratching my head on that too. It stays longer if you have the N3FJP logging program running.
But I haven't quite figured out the macros and logging steps.
I think you send 599 001 12:45        (RST s/n  ZULU time)   
I have the transmit macro working with that much so far.
I don't know where/how to capture the received s/n and time.
My short term memory is shot! I did the contest the last two years but have forgotten how I did it.

73, Bo W4GHV since '54
      

Digital Mode Recognition

Tom Ryan
 

Hi All,
For everyone who wants experience hearing and working different digital modes, - - try the 30 Meter Multimode Event coming up on March 16-17. It is 10 mHz only!  All digital Modes, The more the better.  Everyone is asked to keep their RxID and TxID on for this event.  This is not a contest!  There are no rules, no exchanges, just QSOs exploring various digital modes.  Tune around and see what your RxID finds for you, or pick a mode, - - any mode, and send out a CQ. 
73 Tom  KD6TR

Re: Recognizing mode?

DupyRail
 

At least 8 on 20 this pm.  Only saw a couple of PSK contacts on-going, but no luck there either.  However, no shortage of FT8.

A


On 3/12/2019 10:05 PM, Mike Olbrisch wrote:

Actually, the more conversational permeations of FT8 have made it even more popular.  In time others will tire of it and return.  But modes come and modes go, and perhaps the hey-day of PSK31 has come and gone.  It may in fact be one of those “Legacy Modes” that only really get going during a contest.

 

The question is this.  There is no activity on the air, how many calls did you make today?  Kinda like 10m….. if nobody calls is the band really dead?

 

Vy73 – Mike – KD5KC

El Paso, Texas – DM61rt

 

 

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 18:33 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of DupyRail
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:30 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX

On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:

Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

 

N2BEF

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:

I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George

 

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin
 
Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin

Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

N9JCA Chris Matthews
 

1) PSK31 isn't Dead; the 070 Club operates 24/7

with Contests every Month or so

2) Someone mentioned that if the Operators who run FT8

are using Linears would back off; 100/500 Watts to 3 Element Beam etc

this would really help out. YES, I agree with this. I have "talked" around

the World, just using my puny 20/25 Watts ONLY raising

the power to 100 Watts for 160

The other thing,about FT8 , it's more like a CW, RTTY Contest;

all over the Bands;not caring about the Freqencies that other Ops use,

which makes it hard to operate an other Mode   End of Rant

Chris N9JCA

73


    
On 3/13/19 3:05 AM, Mike Olbrisch wrote:

Actually, the more conversational permeations of FT8 have made it even more popular.  In time others will tire of it and return.  But modes come and modes go, and perhaps the hey-day of PSK31 has come and gone.  It may in fact be one of those “Legacy Modes” that only really get going during a contest.

 

The question is this.  There is no activity on the air, how many calls did you make today?  Kinda like 10m….. if nobody calls is the band really dead?

 

Vy73 – Mike – KD5KC

El Paso, Texas – DM61rt

 

 

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 18:33 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of DupyRail
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:30 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX

On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:

Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

 

N2BEF

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:

I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George

 

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin
 
Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

SR-71
 

Frank - can you fill me in on how RSID works, and how to activate in FLDigi? 

Butch, KF4HR
Email: kf4hr3@...


On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 10:13:39 PM EDT, Frank Mellott <frankmellott@...> wrote:


For fldigi RSID works wonders
Not everyone uses it. But it works.

the other night I was poking around the watering hole looking for PSK31. Someone using domino sent a message. I could only copy one side of the qso but very cool and with out RSID I would not have recognized it.

Frank
KB3PQT



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-------- Original message --------
From: George R Sparling <sparten44@...>
Date: 3/12/19 8:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

Pray for FT8 burnout. The linear amp users are helping to that end.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 8:30 PM DupyRail <andymueller@... wrote:
If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX



On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:
Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

N2BEF

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:
I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin

Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

Mike Olbrisch
 

Actually, the more conversational permeations of FT8 have made it even more popular.  In time others will tire of it and return.  But modes come and modes go, and perhaps the hey-day of PSK31 has come and gone.  It may in fact be one of those “Legacy Modes” that only really get going during a contest.

 

The question is this.  There is no activity on the air, how many calls did you make today?  Kinda like 10m….. if nobody calls is the band really dead?

 

Vy73 – Mike – KD5KC

El Paso, Texas – DM61rt

 

 

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 18:33 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of DupyRail
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:30 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX

On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:

Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

 

N2BEF

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:

I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George

 

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin
 
Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

Mike Olbrisch
 

The flock to FT8 really tells a story.  Give it some thought.

 

 

Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas.

 

The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.  But I have promises to keep.

And miles to go still in my Jeep...   And miles to go still in my Jeep...

 

Big Bend JEEP Rear

 

ADVENTURE:  The respectful pursuit of trouble.

 

 

 

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of DupyRail
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 18:30 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX


On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:

Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

 

N2BEF

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:

I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George



-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin
 
Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

DupyRail
 

IMO, you would have to see alot of the different modes besides RTTY and PSK to easily recognize them.  That hasn't been happening at my QTH.  I call CQ with some of these modes on 20m at various times ( and 30m too ) and all I get is nothingness.  I couldn't identify these w/o RSID or otherwise just poking and hopeing.  Some of these you have to be receiving them for a bit before the decoding starts and alot of the time you will never guess right.  We need more people on these modes to build familiarity with them.

Andy


On 3/12/2019 8:43 PM, Andrew OBrien wrote:
There is an app, it is called Reed-Solomon ID . Fldigi has it built in but people need to use it when transmitting .
There is another method , using sight and frequency . 
For example on 20m , if on 14074 it is FT8, 076 JT65 , 078 JT9.  if on 14070 31hz wide , it is PSK31 , 14072 63 Hz wide it is PSK63.  14088 to 14099 with two vertical parallel lines , it is RTTY. 
That leaves Olivia , Thor , Hell, Contestia , MFSK16 MFSK32 as the other modes that you can easily recognize via their appearance and sound . 


On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:35 PM, George R Sparling <sparten44@...> wrote:

Pray for FT8 burnout. The linear amp users are helping to that end.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 8:30 PM DupyRail <andymueller@... wrote:
If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX



On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:
Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

N2BEF

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:
I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin

Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin

Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

Re: Recognizing mode?

DupyRail
 

Maybe about the time the sunspot cycle starts to pick up?


On 3/12/2019 7:33 PM, Dave Alexander wrote:

I read an article recently that stated that FT8 would slowly reduce in popularity and RTTY and the other digital modes would regain their popularity.

 

From: winfldigi@groups.io <winfldigi@groups.io> On Behalf Of DupyRail
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:30 PM
To: winfldigi@groups.io
Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Recognizing mode?

 

If more people were using these different digital modes rather than FT8, recognizing these different modes could be more productive.

Andy  K9ATX


On 3/12/2019 6:41 PM, George R Sparling wrote:

Really, it only comes with experience and the ability to recognize the sounds when you hear them. 

 

N2BEF

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 7:24 PM Roger via Groups.Io <rawpaw40=verizon.net@groups.io wrote:

I have the same problem to. Boy a app. Like would really be nice.


On Monday, March 11, 2019 George <winfldigi@groups.io> wrote:

I am new to digital operations.  I have fldigi up and running but have a problem recognizing the mode so I can use it.  I can take a picture of a plant with my smartphone and the app will recognize the plant.  is there an app that allows one to take a picture of the mode and tell you what mode it is?

Back in my hole. George



-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin
 
Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com

-- 
"Where the Old Soo crossed the New Soo"
Duplainville, Wisconsin

Web Page:  www.dupyrail.com