Dyeing monofilament


Sue Malvern
 

Does anyone have any experience of dyeing monofilament? I know it needs acid dyes.

What dyes did you use? Did you add vinegar? And how long and at what temperature in the dye bath?

And how did you prepare the monofilament for dyeing? For example, did you wind a warp and then tie it up for dyeing?

Many thanks in advance for any tips.

Sue 


margcoe
 

If the monofilament is nylon, you can use acid dyes. I prefer citrus acid crystals or acetic acid over vinegar. 

If the monofilament is polyester, disperse dyes are needed.

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    On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Sue Malvern via groups.io <suemalvern1@...> wrote:

    

    Does anyone have any experience of dyeing monofilament? I know it needs acid dyes.

    What dyes did you use? Did you add vinegar? And how long and at what temperature in the dye bath?

    And how did you prepare the monofilament for dyeing? For example, did you wind a warp and then tie it up for dyeing?

    Many thanks in advance for any tips.

    Sue 


    Subu
     

    HI Sue…if your monofilament is made of nylon you can dye it with acid dyes.  I have heard it is better to use citric acid crystals instead of vinegar to get good results.  You can also dye it with all purpose dyes like Rit.  Food coloring and kool-aid will dye it as well, but best results are likely from using real dyes.  There are instructions for dyeing nylon on the Pro Chemical and Dye web site. 

     

    Good luck,

    Su 😊

     

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    Does anyone have any experience of dyeing monofilament? I know it needs acid dyes.

    What dyes did you use? Did you add vinegar? And how long and at what temperature in the dye bath?

    And how did you prepare the monofilament for dyeing? For example, did you wind a warp and then tie it up for dyeing?

    Many thanks in advance for any tips.

    Sue 


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    Nann Miller
     

    My experience with dyeing monofilament worked well with acetic acid--the same as I used for wool and silk.  The dyeing went well....my dealing with the monofilament was a test of my patience.  I'd suggest sort of loose figure-eight ties more often than my one-yard ties.  I don't know if there is a way to deal with the twisty nature of the monofilament, but that was the source of most of my problems.

    Nann Miller


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    HI Sue…if your monofilament is made of nylon you can dye it with acid dyes.  I have heard it is better to use citric acid crystals instead of vinegar to get good results.  You can also dye it with all purpose dyes like Rit.  Food coloring and kool-aid will dye it as well, but best results are likely from using real dyes.  There are instructions for dyeing nylon on the Pro Chemical and Dye web site. 

     

    Good luck,

    Su 😊

     

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    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 10:25 AM
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    Does anyone have any experience of dyeing monofilament? I know it needs acid dyes.

    What dyes did you use? Did you add vinegar? And how long and at what temperature in the dye bath?

    And how did you prepare the monofilament for dyeing? For example, did you wind a warp and then tie it up for dyeing?

    Many thanks in advance for any tips.

    Sue 


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    Sue Malvern
     

    Thanks Nan. I agree about the pesky monofilament. Ive just tried dyeing a warp for the first time and tied it often.  This time I didn't mind uneven takeup so I’ve tied it up quite tight! Waiting for it to dry.

    Does anyone know how much acid (citric or vinegar) to use? Also is there an optimum temperature to use? I had it around 75° C, and just tipped in a good cupful of acid. 

    thank you.


     


    Pat
     

    What is the monofilament you are using?  The only monofilament I'm familiar with is fishing line and that doesn't sound like what you are talking about.  I've always thought that was a plastic of some sort.

    Pat Brown

    On Friday, January 21, 2022, 01:57:29 PM EST, Sue Malvern via groups.io <suemalvern1@...> wrote:


    Thanks Nan. I agree about the pesky monofilament. Ive just tried dyeing a warp for the first time and tied it often.  This time I didn't mind uneven takeup so I’ve tied it up quite tight! Waiting for it to dry.

    Does anyone know how much acid (citric or vinegar) to use? Also is there an optimum temperature to use? I had it around 75° C, and just tipped in a good cupful of acid. 

    thank you.


     


    Nann Miller
     

    Monofilament is available in a wide variety of sizes...my friend is using hair sized. I used light weight (10-20 pound test weight).  When I dyed mine, I used about two tablespoons of dye (two tablespoons of dry dye powder in 2 cups of water) and about 1/2 cup acidic acid and 2 gallons of water for the equivalent of about 450-500 yards of 10/2 cotton.  What I can't remember is how dark the result was.

    I don't know if this is helpful or not.  Good luck!
    Nann Miller


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    What is the monofilament you are using?  The only monofilament I'm familiar with is fishing line and that doesn't sound like what you are talking about.  I've always thought that was a plastic of some sort.

    Pat Brown

    On Friday, January 21, 2022, 01:57:29 PM EST, Sue Malvern via groups.io <suemalvern1@...> wrote:


    Thanks Nan. I agree about the pesky monofilament. Ive just tried dyeing a warp for the first time and tied it often.  This time I didn't mind uneven takeup so I’ve tied it up quite tight! Waiting for it to dry.

    Does anyone know how much acid (citric or vinegar) to use? Also is there an optimum temperature to use? I had it around 75° C, and just tipped in a good cupful of acid. 

    thank you.


     


    Sue Malvern
     

    Hi Pat

    It’s polyamide (nylon). I buy 720s from a specialist supplier in the U.K. (who sell it for sewing). It’s v cheap but only comes in transparent or smoky. There are a lot of weavers using it in the U.K. and Europe . (For example, -

    Hannah Robson)

    Fishing line would be a reasonable source though if you can find good quality line.


    Sue


    Sue Malvern
     
    Edited

    It is helpful, Nann. Thanks. Mine is drying nicely but will have to wait til morning to see if colour holds up. Actually getting it onto the loom is another thing!


    Srivandana
     

    I have been following the work of Melanie Olde on Instagram - she has been dyeing monofilament amongst other very interesting things.  @melanieolde


    Sue Malvern
     

    I know Melanie’s weaving - wonderful. She did a tea and textiles talk for HGA which should be available online. 


    Sally O
     
    Edited

    Anastasia Azure also dyed monofilament for her 3-D works.
    I attended her talk at Convergence RI, and remember her commenting about the colorfastness - that some of the colors were fading.
    She didn't get into details, and she may have been referring to her earliest work at that point.


    Sue Malvern
     

    Thanks for this information. Interesting weaver.