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Joe P
 

Hi Everyone 

I bought a few dish rags that are knitted out of peaches and cream cotton. They are fine if I did not do a lot of cooking. I do cook a lot. 

I have a lot of peaches and cream. I am thinking to use some 8/4 rug warp, odd and end colors stripe the warp, the peaches and cream for the weft. I think if I plain wove the dish rags they would be thick but not to thick, I would like to pattern weave the dish rags in a twill of some kind, I feel if I did that the dish rags would be to thick. Because of the way a twill structure builds. 

What do you think?

I was going to use the peaches and cream as warp to make some weft faced bath mats I don't feel the peaches and cream is a strong enough twist. Working on down sizing. 

Good news: I seen my first "robin" today. Winter is now coming to an end in Wisconsin

Keep weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.  

   

LeslieA
 

Joe,

I had a lot of Peaches and Cream Cotton.  I wove a lap blanket with it.  Warp and Weft.  No problem with using it for warp on a balanced weave,  but if you want a weft faced weave, I’d use rug warp.  It was a bit heavy for my lightweight loom, and I remember having to use a stick shuttle instead of a boat shuttle because sheds were a bit thick to open???  Or something.  It’s been a few years.  

8 dents to inch, plain weave.  It was to use up crochet stash (crochet potholders in Tunisian stitch last forever), and what’s the harm in trying.  It was a bit stubborn to weave, but I like the result.  A heavier loom might have worked better?   Come to think of it, may have been a 10 dent reed, which is too many epi and that’s why the stubborn sheds.

Anyway,  I like the result, and it’s holding up well.  It’s not a lace weight for sure, but is warm, and I like heavy blankets.  

Go for it.  Thread it for a simple twill that if you don’t like how the first few inches of twill are weaving up you can change your treadling to plain weave.


Leslie


On Mar 2, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone 

I bought a few dish rags that are knitted out of peaches and cream cotton. They are fine if I did not do a lot of cooking. I do cook a lot. 

I have a lot of peaches and cream. I am thinking to use some 8/4 rug warp, odd and end colors stripe the warp, the peaches and cream for the weft. I think if I plain wove the dish rags they would be thick but not to thick, I would like to pattern weave the dish rags in a twill of some kind, I feel if I did that the dish rags would be to thick. Because of the way a twill structure builds. 

What do you think?

I was going to use the peaches and cream as warp to make some weft faced bath mats I don't feel the peaches and cream is a strong enough twist. Working on down sizing. 

Good news: I seen my first "robin" today. Winter is now coming to an end in Wisconsin

Keep weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.  

   

Karla Sandwith
 

Well, after hanging out on the sidelines, and enjoying reading all the wonderful weavtech posts, I will jump in here with my first public reply. Joe, what about weaving your cloth with a skipped-dent canvas lace? The 8/2 and carpet warp might be a bit heavy for such an application, but I am trying to replicate the amazing linen dishcloths commercially woven with this concept.

After weaving lots of samples, I am in the process of beaming my full trial. The sett balances out to 24epi, with 4 ends crammed into alternate dents on a 12-dent reed. The yarn is handwoven linen singles from my home-grownflax, approximately 30wpi. It's a labour of love, for sure. And a mystery that is fun for the "deep-dive" weaver I am.

I look forward to hearing how your cloths turn out!  ^ks (please let me know if this inserted image is not allowed :-)

bigwhitesofadog
 

When using carpet warp, keep in mind that it is very strong, very hard-spun, and not very absorbent.  A local weaving shop makes towels using carpet warp which are very non-absorbent.  8/4 or 4/2 cotton (not carpet warp) will give the same thickness, absorbance also.  
I personally do not use cloth dishrags because they tend to stay damp and grow bacteria and fungi.
Sandra

Sara von Tresckow
 

I make dishrags in waffle weave in 8/2 cotton and feel that is as thick as
I'd like to go. Not only is absorbancy a factor, if you make them too thick,
they won't clean well in the corners and small spaces. Sugar and Cream is,
in my eyes, a hideous weaving yarn - doesn't have enough flexibility to have
drape, doesn't look really nice, and is too bulky to clean small pans and
tableware.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Öxabäck Looms, Ashford products, yarns, books
and more - visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs

Carly Jayne
 

Hello Joe!

Peaches and Cream as warp and weft together do make a pretty thick cloth. I had a large stash of it and didn't like how bulky the towels I made from it were, my partner, said they were too "yarny" and that was a good description.  I think your intuition that twill might become thick is spot on. I agree with Sara entirely, it's not a great yarn to work with and it doesn't age well, it's slow to absorb and slow to dry and I am happy to have it (mostly) out of my stash! 

I finally used up most of it in a rug with 8/4 cotton as the warp and ground weft and doubled or tripled Peaches and Cream as the pile weft in a 3-shaft corduroy. I cut the ribs to make a piled rug -  you could try Peter Collingwood's Double Corduroy (https://handwovenmagazine.com/crater-rug-in-double-corduroy/). The weaving is not too fussy or slow and it will use up a lot of the yarn in a short time and when cut and washed, the low twist won't be a factor.

I also use it with an 8/2 warp at a low sett (12-15) and alternate each weft pick with 8/2 and Peaches and Cream. I like the texture, it works well with plain weave, but might be an interesting as twill this way. 
Some people say it's soft, but I don't find it particularly soft. It does seem to pill and some colors, like dark red, are prone to bleeding. I do have a small soft spot for it, when I would go yarn shopping as a kid, Peaches and Cream (or Sugar and Cream) always seemed so nice next to acrylic Red Heart in the 1980's craft store. We are so lucky to have so much better yarn to choose from, I've gotten spoiled.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 6:42 PM LeslieA <shebwoso@...> wrote:
Joe,

I had a lot of Peaches and Cream Cotton.  I wove a lap blanket with it.  Warp and Weft.  No problem with using it for warp on a balanced weave,  but if you want a weft faced weave, I’d use rug warp.  It was a bit heavy for my lightweight loom, and I remember having to use a stick shuttle instead of a boat shuttle because sheds were a bit thick to open???  Or something.  It’s been a few years.  

8 dents to inch, plain weave.  It was to use up crochet stash (crochet potholders in Tunisian stitch last forever), and what’s the harm in trying.  It was a bit stubborn to weave, but I like the result.  A heavier loom might have worked better?   Come to think of it, may have been a 10 dent reed, which is too many epi and that’s why the stubborn sheds.

Anyway,  I like the result, and it’s holding up well.  It’s not a lace weight for sure, but is warm, and I like heavy blankets.  

Go for it.  Thread it for a simple twill that if you don’t like how the first few inches of twill are weaving up you can change your treadling to plain weave.


Leslie


On Mar 2, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone 

I bought a few dish rags that are knitted out of peaches and cream cotton. They are fine if I did not do a lot of cooking. I do cook a lot. 

I have a lot of peaches and cream. I am thinking to use some 8/4 rug warp, odd and end colors stripe the warp, the peaches and cream for the weft. I think if I plain wove the dish rags they would be thick but not to thick, I would like to pattern weave the dish rags in a twill of some kind, I feel if I did that the dish rags would be to thick. Because of the way a twill structure builds. 

What do you think?

I was going to use the peaches and cream as warp to make some weft faced bath mats I don't feel the peaches and cream is a strong enough twist. Working on down sizing. 

Good news: I seen my first "robin" today. Winter is now coming to an end in Wisconsin

Keep weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.  

   



--
Carly Jayne
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Kathy Warner
 

Sugar and Cream makes nasty dishrags, but if you're stuck with a bunch of it, it makes good mindless potholders, like this example

https://sarahmaker.com/crochet-potholder/

They come out double thick so they really work.

Kathy

On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Sara von Tresckow <sarav@...> wrote:

I make dishrags in waffle weave in 8/2 cotton and feel that is as thick as
I'd like to go. Not only is absorbancy a factor, if you make them too thick,
they won't clean well in the corners and small spaces. Sugar and Cream is,
in my eyes, a hideous weaving yarn - doesn't have enough flexibility to have
drape, doesn't look really nice, and is too bulky to clean small pans and
tableware.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Öxabäck Looms, Ashford products, yarns, books
and more - visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs





Emily Barth
 
Edited

I use Peaches & Cream all the time to sample weft-faced weave patterns. It's roughly equivalent to 3-ply rug wool (660ypp) in terms of ppi.  For warp, I use doubled 8/4 cotton carpet warp at 6 epi. I turn my samples into mug rugs, but a little bigger they'd make fine trivets too. 

I don't know how well it would hold up to hard daily wear, but I don't see why you couldn't try it for weft-faced bath mats.  The low twist isn't a problem as long as you're packing in the weft, which of course you do for weft-faced weaving.  The result feels quite sturdy to me.  It may be stiffer than you'd want in a bath mat, but I could see that stiffness changing with use and wear. 

Picture below shows texture of a 2/2 twill boundweave in Peaches & Cream. It's 1/4 inch thick.

Catherine Conrad
 

I used Sugar and Cream years ago and was not happy with it because the colors faded terribly when washed. Maybe some colors are ok but I don’t want to chance it since there are better things to weave or knit with.

Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy your weaving.
Catherine

On Mar 4, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Kathy Warner <kbwarner2@...> wrote:

Sugar and Cream makes nasty dishrags, but if you're stuck with a bunch of it, it makes good mindless potholders, like this example

https://sarahmaker.com/crochet-potholder/

They come out double thick so they really work.

Kathy

On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Sara von Tresckow <sarav@...> wrote:

I make dishrags in waffle weave in 8/2 cotton and feel that is as thick as
I'd like to go. Not only is absorbancy a factor, if you make them too thick,
they won't clean well in the corners and small spaces. Sugar and Cream is,
in my eyes, a hideous weaving yarn - doesn't have enough flexibility to have
drape, doesn't look really nice, and is too bulky to clean small pans and
tableware.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Öxabäck Looms, Ashford products, yarns, books
and more - visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs









Inga Marie Carmel
 

Sugar and cream is great for headers. 3 picks and you’re done. 

marie

Inga Marie Carmel
An interesting plainness is the most difficult and precious thing to achieve -  Mies van der Rohe


On Mar 4, 2023, at 18:49, Catherine Conrad <omanitz100@...> wrote:

I used Sugar and Cream years ago and was not happy with it because the colors faded terribly when washed. Maybe some colors are ok but I don’t want to chance it since there are better things to weave or knit with.

Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy your weaving.
Catherine
On Mar 4, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Kathy Warner <kbwarner2@...> wrote:

Sugar and Cream makes nasty dishrags, but if you're stuck with a bunch of it, it makes good mindless potholders, like this example

https://sarahmaker.com/crochet-potholder/

They come out double thick so they really work.

Kathy

On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Sara von Tresckow <sarav@...> wrote:

I make dishrags in waffle weave in 8/2 cotton and feel that is as thick as
I'd like to go. Not only is absorbancy a factor, if you make them too thick,
they won't clean well in the corners and small spaces. Sugar and Cream is,
in my eyes, a hideous weaving yarn - doesn't have enough flexibility to have
drape, doesn't look really nice, and is too bulky to clean small pans and
tableware.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Öxabäck Looms, Ashford products, yarns, books
and more - visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs

















Elizabeth Moncrief
 

And used at 4-6 ends, as the filler for rep weave




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On Mar 4, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Inga Marie Carmel <ingamariecarmel@...> wrote:

Sugar and cream is great for headers. 3 picks and you’re done. 

marie

Inga Marie Carmel
An interesting plainness is the most difficult and precious thing to achieve -  Mies van der Rohe


On Mar 4, 2023, at 18:49, Catherine Conrad <omanitz100@...> wrote:

I used Sugar and Cream years ago and was not happy with it because the colors faded terribly when washed. Maybe some colors are ok but I don’t want to chance it since there are better things to weave or knit with.

Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy your weaving.
Catherine
On Mar 4, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Kathy Warner <kbwarner2@...> wrote:

Sugar and Cream makes nasty dishrags, but if you're stuck with a bunch of it, it makes good mindless potholders, like this example

https://sarahmaker.com/crochet-potholder/

They come out double thick so they really work.

Kathy

On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Sara von Tresckow <sarav@...> wrote:

I make dishrags in waffle weave in 8/2 cotton and feel that is as thick as
I'd like to go. Not only is absorbancy a factor, if you make them too thick,
they won't clean well in the corners and small spaces. Sugar and Cream is,
in my eyes, a hideous weaving yarn - doesn't have enough flexibility to have
drape, doesn't look really nice, and is too bulky to clean small pans and
tableware.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Öxabäck Looms, Ashford products, yarns, books
and more - visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs

















Straight
 

I use Peaches and Crème for potholders.

I make two layers and crochet them together, thick enough you don't get burned.

And if you crochet, you can make all sorts of cute potholders, chickens and fruits and faces.

If you knit, it makes good potholders or dish cloths, and is good to start on to learn.

 

There is the brand name and the lookalike one Walmart sells, which looks just like it, and is

very similar, the yarn, the colors and all.

 

BUT--they are NOT quite the same, and 2 identical items will come out slightly different size.

Enough different that you cannot layer them together.  And I suspect not make a blanket

with squares of the 2 different brands. 

 

One lady told me she only uses white for dishrags, and bleaches them regularly so they are good and clean.

That yarn works well for Inkle looms too.

 

 


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