Macomber Loom hook question


Louise Yale
 

Also appreciate the info on Macomber hooks and texsolv.

What has happened here....

After a phone conversation with Susan Sklarek of RISD, decided to buy a
set of new Super hooks. Thank you, Susan, for all the advice and tips on
Macombers.

If anyone is planning to buy some hooks, Macomber does not process credit
cards. I sent them a check plus the model and serial number of my
Macomber.

Louise, awaiting the new hooks in Northern California

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Just deleting a thousand unread emails (!) and found some overlooked
responses to my query about switching to texsolv.  I so appreciate all
the helpful feedback!
Diane in Pittsburgh




Diane Rabinowitz
 

Just deleting a thousand unread emails (!) and found some overlooked responses to my query about switching to texsolv.  I so appreciate all the helpful feedback!

Diane in Pittsburgh


Denise
 

Diane, my Macomber is 48" wide and 12 shafts. The Texsolv heddles have really made a difference. Send me a note offline if you would like photos.

Best,
Denise


Diane Rabinowitz
 

It seems everyone is referring to Baby Macs and folding them as the problem. My Mac is a big and HEAVY 48” model. I worry that the lamms and shafts are heavy. Has anyone converted one of that size to texsolv? Thank you to all who have replied as well as Denise Kovnat for her useful information.
Diane in Pittsburgh


bigwhitesofadog
 

One thing I should add; my Baby Mac is old, and was probably intended to use hooks that went through holes in the lamms.  I got the newer super hooks for it.  These fit very snugly; to remove them I pull the hook away from the lamms with a pair of plyers and pull it up.
Sandra


bigwhitesofadog
 

The hooks give a connection to the treadle that stays a strait line from the top of the shaft to the treadle.  If you are not careful to make the texsolve do the same, you can bend the frames.  Search Weavolution for more.
Sandra


Kati Meek
 

The conversion of my Baby Macomber to Texsolv years ago was a loom-saver, as well as a back-saver.  In Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with Your Loom (available from Becky's Vav Stuga (http://store.vavstuga.com/category/books.html)  there is an illustration of tipping the Baby Mack (and other small looms) to make tie-up changes easy on the back.  [Baby Mack is currently weaving 16 yards of upholstery gimp (without reed) with the back up on a 2x4 to make it more comfortable to weave this tiny warp-faced  strip.]  Treadle with Joy, Kati
Treehouse Studio in snow-bound Northern Michigan


Janet Stollnitz
 

Tina and others,

When I've had to fold up the loom, I undo the anchors from the Texsolv cords and leave them hanging. I also undo the Velcro.

Janet

On 1/18/2020 1:02 PM, Tina Hilton wrote:
I haven't converted mine to texsolv yet, but I heard from others the risk of damage is when you fold up the loom with the treadles connected.  If you're not careful, the lamms can get bent.  That's for a Baby Mac obviously.

I do like Janet's idea of using velcro in place of the S hooks for the treadle bar.  Those hooks are often coming undone for me.

Tina Hilton

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM Lorelei Caracausa <beeweaverstudio@...> wrote:
I would like to know, also.  When I still had the shop, I retro-fitted many BabyMacs with Texsolv and never had an issue.  All of the customers seemed extremely pleased to not have the the issue anymore.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:02 AM Diane Rabinowitz via Groups.Io <skyisblue2010=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have been very frustrated with super hooks and think I will go for texsolv.  What ways would the loom be damaged “if not done carefully”?
thanks!
Diane


--
Lorelei

-- 
Janet Stollnitz
Silver Spring Looms
Dyed Dreams
www.dyeddreams.com 
jstollnitz@...


Tina Hilton
 

I haven't converted mine to texsolv yet, but I heard from others the risk of damage is when you fold up the loom with the treadles connected.  If you're not careful, the lamms can get bent.  That's for a Baby Mac obviously.

I do like Janet's idea of using velcro in place of the S hooks for the treadle bar.  Those hooks are often coming undone for me.

Tina Hilton


On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM Lorelei Caracausa <beeweaverstudio@...> wrote:
I would like to know, also.  When I still had the shop, I retro-fitted many BabyMacs with Texsolv and never had an issue.  All of the customers seemed extremely pleased to not have the the issue anymore.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:02 AM Diane Rabinowitz via Groups.Io <skyisblue2010=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have been very frustrated with super hooks and think I will go for texsolv.  What ways would the loom be damaged “if not done carefully”?
thanks!
Diane



--
Lorelei


Janet Stollnitz
 

I replaced the hooks on my baby Mac with Texsolv quite a few years ago and haven't had a problem with the shafts. I also replaced the two "s" hooks with three small strips of Velcro. The "s" hooks are/were used to hold the treadle bar in place. I wrapped the Velcro strips around the treadle bar and the flat, metal bar at the front of the loom--one at each end and one in the middle. The treadle bar now stays in place.

Janet

On 1/18/2020 10:02 AM, Diane Rabinowitz via Groups.Io wrote:
I have been very frustrated with super hooks and think I will go for texsolv.  What ways would the loom be damaged “if not done carefully”?
thanks!
Diane

-- 
Janet Stollnitz
Silver Spring Looms
Dyed Dreams
www.dyeddreams.com 
jstollnitz@...


Lorelei Caracausa
 

I would like to know, also.  When I still had the shop, I retro-fitted many BabyMacs with Texsolv and never had an issue.  All of the customers seemed extremely pleased to not have the the issue anymore.


On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:02 AM Diane Rabinowitz via Groups.Io <skyisblue2010=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have been very frustrated with super hooks and think I will go for texsolv.  What ways would the loom be damaged “if not done carefully”?
thanks!
Diane



--
Lorelei


Diane Rabinowitz
 

I have been very frustrated with super hooks and think I will go for texsolv.  What ways would the loom be damaged “if not done carefully”?
thanks!
Diane


bigwhitesofadog
 

Replacing the hooks with texsolve can damage the shafts if not done carefully.
Sandra


bigwhitesofadog
 

I have never had a problem with hooks coming off my Baby Mac, and I treadle fast and do not release the treadles gently.  The hooks fit snugly on the lamms and I remove them with pliars.
Sandra


Jayne F
 

Hooks can become misshapen.

If the long straight part of the hook is bent or bowed enough (or if the treadle slot has warped) the hooks can get stuck in the treadle slot. Then, when the treadle is released (traveling upward), the hook moves with it (instead of sliding in the slot) and the hook itself is lifted up off the lam.

Straighten hooks and wax them to be sure they can move in the treadle slots freely.

Jayne in Maine


Louise Yale
 

Hi Cynthia
Interesting. Will give it a try.
Louise in NorCal
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Part of the problem with the treadle hooks on Macomber looms is
treadling technique. This loom likes the treadles to be released slowly
rather than just rapidly lifting the foot off the treadle and letting
the shafts drop. Other looms seem not to be bothered this way. If the
treadling is gentile the loom behaves better.

Cynthia




Nann Miller
 

I hope they help!!


From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Louise Yale <cafeina@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:46:59 PM
To: WeaveTech <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [weavetech] Macomber Loom hook question
 

Hi Nann
Thank you for the valuable tips.
Louise in NorCal
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> I have used a Macomber 8-shaft 48" B4 for over 50 years--20 of those as a
> production weaver.  Alden Amos timed our weaving speed at a shot every
> second to 1-1/4 seconds, so speed isn't the issue.  The hooks do not fly
> off.  During the last 10 years, I have moved to a 16-shaft B5 and the
> hooks still don't fly off.  I also weave on a 24" 8-shaft Baby Mac, and I
> don't have issues there either. I work in a weaving studio with 5 other 4-
> or 8-shaft B4s and they don't have problems. Each of these looms uses a
> different size Super-Hook and I am careful not to mix the hooks up.
>
> I wonder if you are centering the hook directly over the treadle?  Are you
> making certain the hooks are the correct size for the loom and number of
> shafts on the loom?  As you install (or remove the hooks) do you check
> them to see that they aren't splayed at the top where it bends back?
>
> Nann Miller
> ________________________________
>





Louise Yale
 

Hi Nann
Thank you for the valuable tips.
Louise in NorCal
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I have used a Macomber 8-shaft 48" B4 for over 50 years--20 of those as a
production weaver. Alden Amos timed our weaving speed at a shot every
second to 1-1/4 seconds, so speed isn't the issue. The hooks do not fly
off. During the last 10 years, I have moved to a 16-shaft B5 and the
hooks still don't fly off. I also weave on a 24" 8-shaft Baby Mac, and I
don't have issues there either. I work in a weaving studio with 5 other 4-
or 8-shaft B4s and they don't have problems. Each of these looms uses a
different size Super-Hook and I am careful not to mix the hooks up.

I wonder if you are centering the hook directly over the treadle? Are you
making certain the hooks are the correct size for the loom and number of
shafts on the loom? As you install (or remove the hooks) do you check
them to see that they aren't splayed at the top where it bends back?

Nann Miller
________________________________


Nann Miller
 

I have used a Macomber 8-shaft 48" B4 for over 50 years--20 of those as a production weaver.  Alden Amos timed our weaving speed at a shot every second to 1-1/4 seconds, so speed isn't the issue.  The hooks do not fly off.  During the last 10 years, I have moved to a 16-shaft B5 and the hooks still don't fly off.  I also weave on a 24" 8-shaft Baby Mac, and I don't have issues there either. I work in a weaving studio with 5 other 4- or 8-shaft B4s and they don't have problems. Each of these looms uses a different size Super-Hook and I am careful not to mix the hooks up.

I wonder if you are centering the hook directly over the treadle?  Are you making certain the hooks are the correct size for the loom and number of shafts on the loom?  As you install (or remove the hooks) do you check them to see that they aren't splayed at the top where it bends back?

Nann Miller


From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Teresa Ruch <teresaruch@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:05 PM
To: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [weavetech] Macomber Loom hook question
 
I have not found this to be a problem on any macombers I have used. I have only woven on full size mac not baby macs so that might make the difference. I am a production weaver and like the macs because they are faster than my avl.
Teresa

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cynthia Broughton <cbroughton5@...> wrote:

Part of the problem with the treadle hooks on Macomber looms is treadling technique. This loom likes the treadles to be released slowly rather than just rapidly lifting the foot off the treadle and letting the shafts drop. Other looms seem not to be bothered this way. If the treadling is gentile the loom behaves better.

Cynthia



Teresa Ruch
 

I have not found this to be a problem on any macombers I have used. I have only woven on full size mac not baby macs so that might make the difference. I am a production weaver and like the macs because they are faster than my avl.
Teresa

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cynthia Broughton <cbroughton5@...> wrote:

Part of the problem with the treadle hooks on Macomber looms is treadling technique. This loom likes the treadles to be released slowly rather than just rapidly lifting the foot off the treadle and letting the shafts drop. Other looms seem not to be bothered this way. If the treadling is gentile the loom behaves better.

Cynthia