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Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>
I have two looms with overhead beaters and two thatWell..... As I mentioned, if you move the pivots so they're behind the beater swords, the balance then dictates that the beater will have to hang toward the shafts. The beater's balance is from its pivots and if they're in the middle of the swords, then the beater hangs plumb; if the pivots are slightly in front of the swords, the beater rests against the fell, if the pivots are behind the swords ( looking from the bench ) the beater hangs close to the shafts. If you have a loom with a small weaving area or "Sweet Spot", then you're restrained by the design and moving the pivots could result in a reed that isn't vertical ( 90 degrees ) when it strikes the fell line. In this case the loom design dictates to you, so all you can do here is add a stretchy cord to each sword of the beater. Loom design has to take everything into consideration; change one thing and it changes another...... Happy Shuttling ! - Bill Koepp in Central California
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Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>
Hi Joan,
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Sketch enclosed. More to follow - - Bill Koepp in Central California
I'm not familiar with the two terms, beater swords and Capes.
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Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>
I'm not familiar with the two terms, beater swords and Capes.Contact me offlist so I can send attachments please. - Bill Koepp in Central California
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Joan Swift <joanes@...>
As I mentioned, if you move the pivots so they're behind theBill, I'm not familiar with the two terms, beater swords and Capes. The loom I'm referring to is an AVL production dobby. That particular loom had a lever that you could drop down to hold the beater back; otherwise it had to be held back by hand. I'm asking this question as a part of my research for my future dream loom. I like the overheads but want it to stay back by itself. What is it that you like about this type of beater? Is it true that rugs are easier to beat with them? In your picture it looks like the hanging beater is defying gravity. Thanks, Joan
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Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>
What is it that you like about this type of beater?I do like the overhead beater ! The only advantage an underslung beater has is size; it's smaller. It's usually used to make the loom more portable or smaller in my opinion, as there's no high castle. To tune the overhead beater, you can move the pivot piece from the front of the pivot bar to the rear or the reverse.The pivot piece can be wedge or chisel shaped. You can also move a steel bar from the rear to the front; all of these will change the hang angle of the beater. Usually the overhead beater has a larger swing arc and returns to the start position by itself, unlike most underslung beaters that have to be pushed back. I'd put a steel bar on ANY beater, for rugs. The last resort is adding an elastic cord to each sword ( side ) of the beater. If your beater then rests too far for you to comfortably reach it, just add a nice wooden handle to the front reed-cap or shell. Happy Shuttling ! - Bill Koepp in Central California
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Elizabeth Silver-Schack <taze.moo@...>
What is it that you like about this type of beater?
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Is it true that rugs are easier to beat with them? I owned a Cranbrook made in 1991 which came with "arms" to hold the beater back in place. The beater had a metal plate along its length for extra weight when beating rugs. When pused to its rear position the magnets on the "arms" which were attached to the side uprights of the loom would hold the beam back. I found this useful when I was working on rep rugs, for example, and had the warp at extremely high tension with lots of epi- perhaps you can device a system of this sort for your dream loom, Bettes
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From: "Joan Swift" <joanes@efn.org> To: <WeaveTech@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WeaveTech] Re: overhead beaters.... As I mentioned, if you move the pivots so they're behind theBill,
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Su Butler <apbutler@...>
The only advantage an underslung beater has is size; it's smaller. >It'susually used to make the loom more portable or smaller in my opinion, as there's no high castle.I fully respect Bill's knowledge of different looms, but I must disagree with the above......the underslung beater on some looms is a matter of choice for the weaver....my CM loom has an underslung beater which is exactly the same size as the overhead beaters on this brand loom, and I love it, but also a high castle and is not what I could call portable. The castle houses the (what are they really called??) jacks from which the shafts hang. I like the underslung beater because is does go to a resting position so I do not have to push it aside to throw the shuttle, and I like the weight of it....I hardly have to pull on it at all to get a good firm beat. I do believe underslung beaters are used on American made jack action looms to help with the size issue.....those looms are more compact in total, but on a Scandinavian style CM loom, I believe it a matter of taste..... Su Butler :-) www.subudesigns.com "Ask not that events should happen as you will, but let your will be that events should happen as they do, and you shall have peace." - Epictetus
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Therese <cabincrk@...>
TheCoupers, I think. Therese
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