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Re: AVL Drive

nancyhassel
 

One more thought:  AVL Drive relies relies upon Java.  Has a Java Runtime Environment been installed on your Mac?

FYI:  I run an AVL 4.5 on a Windows 10 PC using AVL Drive with no problems.  I connect via USB instead of WiFi because of preference (simpler, not sharing with rest of household).

Nancy


Re: sevlages for 2-block broken twill treadled for one block

suki248
 

I put in the threading and it did not look promising - If you have a wide block A at the selvedge having a 1 block B(4 threads) and then 1 A, 1 B, maybe for 5 or so blocks should counteract the curl that you are trying to avoid - might be a nice decorative effect as well. Also does not require a floating selvedge which would not help the curl.

Charlene Schurch

On 4/14/2019 6:28 AM, Holly holly@... [WeaveTech] wrote:

 

Planning a project that will be threaded in 2 blocks (straight order) on
8 shafts and tied up for a two-block broken (false satin) twill. One
block in treadling throughout, 4 treadles - 1567, 3578, 2568, 4678,

I know from annoying experience :) that treadling one block throughout
will result in curled selvages after washing that don't press out, even
if they're sleyed at a looser set, due to the long weft floats. I have
8 shafts, so no extras for basketweave selvages as I've seen recommended
here.

I came up with this threading for the selvages:
1, 5, 2, 6, 3, 7, 4, 8

The longer floats are mixed with the shorter this way - OTOH, that's
true of the threading as well. Has anyone tried this selvage and does
it work? Do you have any other suggestions? I will probably also use a
floating selvage, but not sure, depends on how the selvages look, but I
know that won't make any difference in the curling after washing.

TIA,

Holly




sevlages for 2-block broken twill treadled for one block

Holly <holly@...>
 

Planning a project that will be threaded in 2 blocks (straight order) on 8 shafts and tied up for a two-block broken (false satin) twill. One block in treadling throughout, 4 treadles - 1567, 3578, 2568, 4678,

I know from annoying experience :) that treadling one block throughout will result in curled selvages after washing that don't press out, even if they're sleyed at a looser set, due to the long weft floats. I have 8 shafts, so no extras for basketweave selvages as I've seen recommended here.

I came up with this threading for the selvages:
1, 5, 2, 6, 3, 7, 4, 8

The longer floats are mixed with the shorter this way - OTOH, that's true of the threading as well. Has anyone tried this selvage and does it work? Do you have any other suggestions? I will probably also use a floating selvage, but not sure, depends on how the selvages look, but I know that won't make any difference in the curling after washing.

TIA,

Holly


Re: AVL Drive

Linda
 

Hi Mary,

Do you use the PC version or the Mac? The question is moot at this point, since I already upgraded my Fiberworks, but I'm still curious about why I couldn't get the Mac version to work.

Linda


Re: AVL Drive

Linda
 

AVL Drive is used  to run the loom, off a .wif, through whatever connection you have to the CompuDobby, whether that's USB or WiFi. I don't have WiFi, so it would be USB regardless. 

I did not realize that there was a Mac version of Weavepoint. I didn't see it when I went to the AVL software site (just WeaveMaker Mi for CompuDobby I, II, and III), so apologies if I missed it. Although, given a choice, I was going to just upgrade the program I already know and love, rather than buy a whole new program, if the free stuff didn't work.



Re: AVL Drive

Mary Berent
 

That is not really true.  I use AVLDrive plugged in with a USB cable and no wifi, no internet.  You have to have a way to get to the weaving files, but any .wif file will work.

 

Mary Berent, Master Weaver

769 N Grey Pebble Way

Eagle ID 83616

208-901-5640

mary-berent.com

 

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To: WeaveTech@...
Subject: [WeaveTech] Re: AVL Drive

 

 

Getting in on the conversation late. It sounds like this software only allows one to make a connection from the PC or Mac to the compudobby by WiFi instead of through a USB connection. Is that it? And I assume the software would have to be on the actual device that you are using to control your loom and not on a remote device. Is that correct?

 

Linda Davis


Re: AVL Drive

Linda Davis <tomlin@...>
 

Getting in on the conversation late. It sounds like this software only allows one to make a connection from the PC or Mac to the compudobby by WiFi instead of through a USB connection. Is that it? And I assume the software would have to be on the actual device that you are using to control your loom and not on a remote device. Is that correct?

 

Linda Davis


Re: AVL Drive

bigwhitesofadog
 

According to the instructions on the AVL website, AVL admin is used to
set up the WiFi connection. Drive is then used to run the loom. There
is a Mac version of Weavepoint. I think that Fiberworks is probably
the most popular software; Weavepoint is more expensive, but has
several features that I like and use a lot. Glad your new CD is up
and running.


Re: AVL Drive

Linda
 

AVL Drive is advertised as working with any .wif, and (supposedly) comes in a Windows and a Mac version. AVL Admin is what you are thinking of, I suspect, as it is advertised as the tool you need to run a loom via WiFi (again in a Windows and a Mac version).

If I had the option to run Weavepoint, then my question would have been moot, since it would mean that I had Windows on my computer. 

I upgraded to Fiberworks Silver Plus for AVL yesterday. I didn't get my validation key until late last night, when I was already too sleepy to try to set it up. I woke up at 4:30, too anxious/excited to wait any longer, and set it up this morning. It went smoothly and quickly, and everything is working. Shafts are rising!

Thanks for the input.

Linda 


Re: AVL Drive

jj04410
 

Not that it matters at this point, but my understanding is that it works with any WIF file, regardless of the design software. The issue I had is that AVL Drive and none of its connected apps ( Admin or Update) would open after multiple downloads, multiple attempts to open after unzipping and numerous contacts with AVL. Good old hard wiring works the best for me. 

Janice


Re: AVL Drive

johnacord
 

Sandra's comments are very good.   We have all experienced intermittent operation in things like wireless and complex program interactions, often caused by loss of connectivity or delays in the information processing.  In controlling a machine, such as a loom, the more direct and fewer layers will ensure reliability and repeatability.

John

--
Flatwater Electronics
www.flatwaterfarm.com
"Neurosurgery for computer looms."


Re: AVL Drive

bigwhitesofadog
 

I believe that AVL Drive is used with Weavepoint to run a loom via
WiFi. I don't think it's going to work with any other software. I
don't have or want WiFi in my studio, so I have never used it. I have
found a USB connection to work very well, and since it's not mobile,
it's not inconvenient to have a wired connection. With the older CD I
that I used to use, I used a keyspan USB to serial connection, which
also worked well. I have never had connectivity problems, but I run
Weavepoint and AVL dobbies.
Sandra


Re: AVL Drive

Linda
 

Thank you for the replies. Even AVL suggested it would be better to use Fiberworks than their drive. :-)

I'll probably bite the bullet today, so I can get my excitement about my new loom back.

Linda


Re: AVL Drive

jj04410
 

I have never been able to get it to work, either, in the past two years. Three different Macs, two OS versions, various browsers. 

Janice


Re: AVL Drive

Israel
 

I was never able to get AVL Drive to work with my Mac.  This was about 3 years ago with an older OS.  

Tina w


AVL Drive

Linda
 

Hi,


Does anyone have experience using AVL Drive with the CompuDobby IV on a Mac? I just bought my first CompuDobby AVL. I have Fiberworks Silver. I don't know if I should try to use AVL Drive or upgrade to Silver Plus. I've been trying all morning to download AVL Drive and get it to open, and so far have been unsuccessful. I'm wondering if it's worth continuing to try, or if I should bite the $98 bullet and upgrade my Fiberworks.


Thanks,

Linda


Re: Digest Number 6554

bigwhitesofadog
 

Thanks for the tip, John.  It turns out that although the instructions that AVL has on line for this solenoid replacement call for removing the tip, this isn't necessary.  The new solenoid has a tip on it; this was the wrong one.  The new solenoid goes to a different CD IV.  The one complaint I have for AVL is that they have poor version control.  There are different versions of hardware and software, and they are not well differentiated.  I have two CD IV's and they very different beasts.  The solenoid AVL sent me actually goes to the other CD, and instead of sending it back, I'm buying it as a spare for the other CD.
I think the last time I saw your comment was about trying to fix a wonky mechanical counter on a warping wheel.  I replaced it with a digital proximity counter I got for $10 on Ebay.  It took about 10 minutes, and the new counter is a lot easier to see and works perfectly.  Anyone who wants to do this, make sure you get all the parts you need from the seller.  You need the counter itself, the sender or sensor (a cylinder), a magnet, and a mounting bracket.  Some sellers show a picture of the whole kit but only send part of it.
Sandra

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 5:37 AM <WeaveTech@...> wrote:

2 Messages

Digest #6554
1a
Re: AVL Solenoid by "Sandra Eberhart" bigwhitesofadog
1b
Re: AVL Solenoid by "John Acord" flatwaterweaver

Messages

1a

Re: AVL Solenoid

Mon Apr 8, 2019 11:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Sandra Eberhart" bigwhitesofadog

!i am in the middle replacing a solenoid on my CD IV. I have the bad
one out but I can't get the little black plastic tip off of it. I
know quite a few people out there have done this, any tricks for doing
this without destroying the tip? The new one came with what looks
like a protective white plug on it, and I can't get that off either.
Sandra in finally warm Michigan

1b

Re: AVL Solenoid

Mon Apr 8, 2019 3:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Acord" flatwaterweaver

Those 'plastic&#39; solenoid tips are a tight press fit. Generally if you can
get something behind it and pull straight away it will come off rather
easily. Be careful to not bend the shaft it is on.

Maybe cut a slot in a piece of wood that the plunger shaft will just slide
in and clamp it down securely (in a vise?). Slide the shaft into the slot
and pull STRAIGHT back. Supporting as much of the back of the tip as
possible is the issue so it slides off straight.

Putting the tip back on is the reverse, again pushing as straight as
possible will make it go on easier.

I've done this many times and if careful have not run into any problems.
John

--
Flatwater Electronics
www.flatwaterfarm.com
"Neurosurgery for computer looms."
&quot;The selection of the terms we use today must be such that as many people as possible can understand each other.&quot;
                                                   -Peter Collingwood


Re: AVL Solenoid

johnacord
 

Those 'plastic' solenoid tips are a tight press fit.  Generally if you can get something behind it and pull straight away it will come off rather easily.  Be careful to not bend the shaft it is on.

Maybe cut a slot in a piece of wood that the plunger shaft will just slide in and clamp it down securely (in a vise?).  Slide the shaft into the slot and pull STRAIGHT back.  Supporting as much of the back of the tip as possible is the issue so it slides off straight. 

Putting the tip back on is the reverse, again pushing as straight as possible will make it go on easier.

I've done this many times and if careful have not run into any problems.
John

--
Flatwater Electronics
www.flatwaterfarm.com
"Neurosurgery for computer looms."


Re: AVL Solenoid

bigwhitesofadog
 

!i am in the middle replacing a solenoid on my CD IV. I have the bad
one out but I can't get the little black plastic tip off of it. I
know quite a few people out there have done this, any tricks for doing
this without destroying the tip? The new one came with what looks
like a protective white plug on it, and I can't get that off either.
Sandra in finally warm Michigan


Re: [NIME Community] Interdisciplinary Symposium on Dancing and Braiding, 17th May, Sheffield UK

Lala de Dios
 

It does indeed. Thank you Inga!

Lala de Dios
Indigo Estudio Textil
Ciempozuelos 3
28359 Titulcia - Madrid
Tel. 91 8010907 - 658059627
Fax 91 80104015

El 3 abr 2019, a las 10:13 p.m., Inga Marie Carmel ingamariecarmel@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> escribió:


My choreographer brother in law sent me this. Looks super interesting, wish I could go!

marie


Inga Marie Carmel
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