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Re: nancy asks

Louise Yale
 

How I am dyeing cotton - fabric, yarn and roving.

With the soda ash prepared product, outside, in a sheltered, windfree
spot, on plastic wrap, with a respirator in place*, I sprinkle the dry
Procion dye on the product.

The Procion dyes spread by themselves throughout the product.

No, it is not even like an immersion process but the slight variation adds
depth, drama and complexity to the product.

Roll up the product in the plastic warp. Place in a plastic bag to keep it
moist. Store for one week in 70 degree or higher spot in the house.

Rinse as needed.

*alone, no pets, no children.

Louise in Norcal

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Not THE cotton spinning expert, but the staple is soooo short that I would
spin it first before you dye it. Cotton has waxes that interfere with
color takeup unless it is hot enough to melt those waxes.
I have happily dyed cotton yarn. But this it will ness up roving to do all
that squeezing and manipulating. . Talk to Dharma if they are at work.
They tell much online. But, no, I would not try to dye roving. But that is
just my own reasoning.
Glad to here from elders or betters.
MarMar in middle TN. where water is still standing in yards at top of
Hills & Flowers are blooming. (Yes, there are many people still driving
around going places like there invincible, a life was still normal)


On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:33 PM, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving. now, like rest of you, i am
couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.
can i dye cotton roving???




Re: nancy asks

marmar weaves
 

Not THE cotton spinning expert, but the staple is soooo short that I would spin it first before you dye it. Cotton has waxes that interfere with color takeup unless it is hot enough to melt those waxes.
I have happily dyed cotton yarn. But this it will ness up roving to do all that squeezing and manipulating. . Talk to Dharma if they are at work. They tell much online. But, no, I would not try to dye roving. But that is just my own reasoning.
Glad to here from elders or betters.
MarMar in middle TN. where water is still standing in yards at top of Hills & Flowers are blooming. (Yes, there are many people still driving around going places like there invincible, a life was still normal)

On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:33 PM, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving. now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving. can i dye cotton roving???


Re: nancy asks

Michelle
 

Nancy - look at their Proccion dyes that are usually used for tie dying - I buy them for t-shirts but they will work well for any cotton. You need the dye, some urea and some soda ash and you can dye to your hearts content.

Michelle in ND where we are still seeing only a few cases!

-----Original Message-----
From: weavetech@groups.io [mailto:weavetech@groups.io] On Behalf Of nancy
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:47 PM
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] nancy asks

thanks louise, i have printed pages from dharma over the years. i did
not see there but maybe i will look again

On 3/21/20 11:43 AM, Louise Yale wrote:
Dharma in Marin County used to have instructions for using procion dyes on
their web site.
Your neighbor Louise in NorCal

Nancy, it requires a mordant...Google it, lots of infoGood luck and have
fun!June
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2020‎
‎11‎:‎33‎:‎15‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, nancy
<biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving. now, like rest of you, i am
couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.Â
can i dye cotton roving??? i am not youtube facile but i tried looking
there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california










Re: nancy asks

Su Butler
 

Hello Nancy...yes you can. I just dyed a few pounds of cotton linter for a spinner friend. It is not hard at all. I would suggest doing full immersion dyeing, not trying to paint it on. Soak your roving in soda ash water before dyeing. You can then dye it wet or dry, but wet usually works better, imho. Use very warm water in your dyebath and let it batch for a minimum of 4 hours, preferably 8 or more. Rinsing will yield run off - there is really not much of a way to avoid this dyeing cotton. Remember cotton will not dye as "brilliantly" as wool or silk. But you can get good saturated color. It will get darker when spun, so think of that when choosing colors. Have fun - you've got nothing to lose!

Best,
Su Butler



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Re: nancy asks

Ian Bowers
 

Cotton fibres, cellulose, has far fewer sites on the cotton molecule for dyes to bind, compared with wool (protein). Using naturally occurring dyestuffs requires an assistant to create more binding sites. Traditionally alternate soaks in potash alum followed by tannin repeated several times created the necessary structure. However it did leave a brown tint which affected the final dye colour. A more recent assistant is aluminium tri-acetate. Unfortunately there are three isomers of the acetate, mono- di- and tri-acetate. Only the latter, and most expensive form is soluble and can be used as the assistant. Some dye suppliers have not understood this subtlety and sell the cheaper variants; beware.

Using synthetic dyes is far easier; fibre reactive dyes are cold water dyes requiring the addition of sodium carbonate to create the necessary alkalinity. They are widely available and commonly used industrially for colouring papers. They are generally sold as mixes to create the necessary colour, and the mix components can 'strike' at different rates. The dyes also hydrolise in the dye bath so, unlike the acid dye family, they are not 100% absorbed; there is always some colour in the dye bath, and a need too wash the dyes article thoroughly to remove unattached dyestuffs. As a result it is important to enter the fabric to the dye bath as soon as possible after it is formed and work the fabric thoroughly to ensure even spread and absorption of the dyestuff.

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-----Original Message-----
From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> On Behalf Of nancy via Groups.Io
Sent: 21 March 2020 18:47
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] nancy asks

thanks louise, i have printed pages from dharma over the years. i did not see there but maybe i will look again

On 3/21/20 11:43 AM, Louise Yale wrote:
Dharma in Marin County used to have instructions for using procion
dyes on their web site.
Your neighbor Louise in NorCal

Nancy, it requires a mordant...Google it, lots of infoGood luck and
have fun!June
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2020‎
‎11‎:‎33‎:‎15‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, nancy
<biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i
am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton
roving. can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i
tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california










Re: nancy asks

Mandi Ballard
 

I have been dyeing cotton for 20+ years. There are two excellent sources for dyes and dye instructions.

DharmaTrading in California

And ProChemical in Mass. 

  ---Mandi

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 2:01 PM Deanna Johnson <deannaj@...> wrote:
Here are links to 2 of Joan Ruane’s videos about dying cotton fiber.

http://www.cottonspinning.com/spin/dyeCushing_Solar.html

Deanna Johnson



On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.  can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california






Re: nancy asks

Deanna Johnson
 

Here are links to 2 of Joan Ruane’s videos about dying cotton fiber.

http://www.cottonspinning.com/spin/dyeCushing_Solar.html

Deanna Johnson



On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.  can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california






Re: nancy asks

Neal Goman
 

Yes you can dye cotton. I have used Procion MX and Sabraset but any fiber reactive dye would work. With wool you used Citric acid or vinegar but with cellulose use Soda Ash solution. Unlike wool you don't need heat. Pro Chemical and Dye has some good write ups.
Neal.

On 3/21/2020 1:33 PM, nancy wrote:
good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.  can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california



Re: nancy asks

nancy
 

thanks louise, i have printed pages from dharma over the years. i did not see there but maybe i will look again

On 3/21/20 11:43 AM, Louise Yale wrote:
Dharma in Marin County used to have instructions for using procion dyes on
their web site.
Your neighbor Louise in NorCal

Nancy, it requires a mordant...Google it, lots of infoGood luck and have
fun!June
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2020‎
‎11‎:‎33‎:‎15‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, nancy
<biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am
couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.Â
can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking
there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california









Re: nancy asks

Silvia Leidig, MSW
 

Look at Joan Ruane’s website too. I think it’s something like cottonspinning.com. She used to have instructions for dyeing cotton roving.
On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:
good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving. now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving. can i dye cotton roving??? i am not youtube facile but i tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california


Re: nancy asks

Louise Yale
 

Dharma in Marin County used to have instructions for using procion dyes on
their web site.
Your neighbor Louise in NorCal

Nancy, it requires a mordant...Google it, lots of infoGood luck and have
fun!June
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2020‎
‎11‎:‎33‎:‎15‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, nancy
<biggins@...> wrote:

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am
couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving. 
can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking
there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california








Re: nancy asks

personjune
 

Nancy, it requires a mordant...Google it, lots of info
Good luck and have fun!
June

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2020‎ ‎11‎:‎33‎:‎15‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, nancy <biggins@...> wrote:


good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have
never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am
couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving. 
can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking
there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california




nancy asks

nancy
 

good persons out there,

i have dyed a lot of wool, fleece or roving or yarn, but.... i have never dyed cotton whether yarns or roving.  now, like rest of you, i am couped up and bored and, on point.... i have big box of cotton roving.  can i dye cotton roving???  i am not youtube facile but i tried looking there and did not find anything about cotton

/s/ nancy biggins in caution locked down california


Re: Treadle and Harness Hooks

Elizabeth Moncrief
 

Try McMaster Carr Hardware online. 😊

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On Mar 20, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Pat Bullen <spinningwitch24@...> wrote:

My husband's father built a lovely loom about 55 years ago.  My husband, Larry, an engineer, modified it 15 years later making new pulleys and hooks.  Fast forward to 1984 when we got married and I started using the loom and started having trouble with the harnesses jumping their pulleys.  Fast forward to our move to WI in the fall of 2018.  Larry recently remade the pulleys and discovered some of the hooks he made to attach the harnesses, lams, and treadles are missing.  We are looking for a source for new hooks.  Harrisville has nice heavy duty lanyard hooks on the end of their treadle chains at $6.50 each.  We just want the hooks or something comparable.  Any suggestions?  We need at least 32 hooks. 
Thanks,
Pat and Larry Bullen

"Knitters, Crocheters, Weavers, Quilters, Spinners...
Do not fear self quarantine...
This is what we have been training for"


Treadle and Harness Hooks

Pat Bullen
 

My husband's father built a lovely loom about 55 years ago.  My husband, Larry, an engineer, modified it 15 years later making new pulleys and hooks.  Fast forward to 1984 when we got married and I started using the loom and started having trouble with the harnesses jumping their pulleys.  Fast forward to our move to WI in the fall of 2018.  Larry recently remade the pulleys and discovered some of the hooks he made to attach the harnesses, lams, and treadles are missing.  We are looking for a source for new hooks.  Harrisville has nice heavy duty lanyard hooks on the end of their treadle chains at $6.50 each.  We just want the hooks or something comparable.  Any suggestions?  We need at least 32 hooks. 
Thanks,
Pat and Larry Bullen

"Knitters, Crocheters, Weavers, Quilters, Spinners...
Do not fear self quarantine...
This is what we have been training for"


Re: Sources of inspiration

Jayne F
 

We’ve used email “Show & Tell” many times when meetings have been cancelled due to snow! Plain email works well for small guilds <20.

This time there is a lot more advanced notice so there should be a lot more to share!

Jayne in Maine

 


Re: Sources of inspiration

Joe P
 

Hi Everyone and Eileen 

Eileen I enjoyed what you wrote in your post a great deal (We can tackle the weaving projects we have dreamed about). That is just what I have been doing. I have been reading my weaving books I have not read. I have been e-mailing my friends off list. With everything else I have to do in a day. My day is gone before I got it started and I know I am not alone. Because I have many weaving dreams I want to try that I have read about other weavers on this list doing. Call it inspiration. 

I am happy today. My touch screen lap top got here it was back ordered it is at my accountants office. Dan called to tell me he would be dropping it off later this afternoon. I said, I am sure you have a lot going on doing peoples taxes. It is ok with me if you drop it off one day at the end of next week. I am working on a project right now anyways. Dan said ok call me. 

I have a stash I am going to go dig out a roll of natural fabric I have about 35 pounds of it and the hand crank cutter. I feel like weaving a few place mats. The warp is going to be all kinds of colors that I have of end cones and some natural. I am not sure yet what the pattern is going to be yet. But I will come up with something nice. I am going to set the warp at 15 so the pattern shows up nice and strong. Play music in the back round and work on weaving to my hearts content. I am gong to pick a threading that I can make a lot of different types of place mats by just changing the side tie up on the AVL loom. Boy I sure like that feature. Just sit on a stool and change the tie up. I have found I have been doing a lot more pattern weaving.

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.  
      

From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Sally O <s.orgren@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:24 PM
To: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [weavetech] Sources of inspiration
 
I, too, am enjoying samples arriving from the Cross Country Weaver's 2020 color challenge, "The 3 B's: Birds, Butterflies, & Bugs." (Those of you who are on the mailing list for the traveling notebooks will be in for a treat this coming year!)

My guilds have all cancelled for April, so one of the suggestions we are considering is a virtual "show n tell." Our guild challenge for the year was "Something New" and the presentation was scheduled for next month. The idea is that the participants would send in a photo of their item and write up their tell, and then submit the email to our newsletter person under the subject, "Something New." Each day in April, our newsletter person would use the membership distribution list to share one item, to help the days pass more quickly. When we gather again, we will have a table laid out for all the challenge items. 

For those of you who haven't thought of this yet, now is the time to be sure you are carrying your own pen if you have to visit a doctor's office, bank, or other place where you may need to sign documents. Also, I am carrying a stylus so I don't have to touch any screens to complete transactions.


Re: Sources of inspiration

Sally O
 

I, too, am enjoying samples arriving from the Cross Country Weaver's 2020 color challenge, "The 3 B's: Birds, Butterflies, & Bugs." (Those of you who are on the mailing list for the traveling notebooks will be in for a treat this coming year!)

My guilds have all cancelled for April, so one of the suggestions we are considering is a virtual "show n tell." Our guild challenge for the year was "Something New" and the presentation was scheduled for next month. The idea is that the participants would send in a photo of their item and write up their tell, and then submit the email to our newsletter person under the subject, "Something New." Each day in April, our newsletter person would use the membership distribution list to share one item, to help the days pass more quickly. When we gather again, we will have a table laid out for all the challenge items. 

For those of you who haven't thought of this yet, now is the time to be sure you are carrying your own pen if you have to visit a doctor's office, bank, or other place where you may need to sign documents. Also, I am carrying a stylus so I don't have to touch any screens to complete transactions.


Sources of inspiration

Eileen Driscoll
 

I have been enjoying my woven samples from the Complex Weavers 24 + or - group. I notice two things

One, so many weaving teachers and resources used. I thank each one for all they have given to us as teachers.
Olsener
Jannie Taylor
Bonnie Inoyue
Marion Stubenitsky
Marg Coe
And many references to Handweaving.net.

And two, a new book from Marion Stubenitsky that I was completely unaware of, Double with a Twist, about deflected weaves.

Now that we are all on sabbatical from real life, we can tackle the weaving projects we have dreamed of.

Hoping that you are all keeping healthy and safe.

Eileen
Ithaca NY


Martha Stanley

Russell Fickett
 

I took a wonderful class in the 80’s at the Brookfield craft Center, Brookfield Ct.  on Rugs with Martha. She autographed a 1984 copy of  “A rug Weavers Sourcebook. “    Cheri Fickett


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