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Re: Cable or Cord

Louise Yale
 

Several years ago, Peggy was featured in an advertisement for an adult
community in Marin County, Northern California. The photos showed Peggy
and some of her weavings.
The weavers in the Marin County CNCH (Conference of Northern California
Handweavers and Spinners) might have current details.
Louise in NorCal

Hi Everyone

I have a full frame/modular AVL loom from about 1976-to-1980 is the best
we can figure out. Jim Ahrens built looms before this time. The loom is
before the number system used on AVL looms of today. I went looking around
the web I found a Websight that was put together by Peggy Osterkamp that
explains Things to do with the side tie up on treadle AVL looms. In
looking at the pictures of what Peggy is explaining about the side tie up
of the loom. The loom does not have "cables" in any of the pictures the
loom has all "texolv cords" I can see this looking really close at the
pictures.

I have two questions

1 does anyone on the list have an older AVL loom that all the cords are
texolv not cables?
2 How do I get in touch with Peggy Osterkamp. Peggy worked with Jim Ahrens
on weaving together. If no one can answer this question on the list Peggy
Osterkamp can. Maybe Peggy might be on this list.

I want to thank weavers in advance

Keep Weaving
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.






















Re: Cable or Cord

Laura Sniderman
 

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:40 AM Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone 

I have a full frame/modular AVL loom from about 1976-to-1980 is the best we can figure out. Jim Ahrens built looms before this time. The loom is before the number system used on AVL looms of today. I went looking around the web I found a Websight that was put together by Peggy Osterkamp that explains Things to do with the side tie up on treadle AVL looms. In looking at the pictures of what Peggy is explaining about the side tie up of the loom. The loom does not have "cables" in any of the pictures the loom has all "texolv cords" I can see this looking really close at the pictures. 

I have two questions 

1 does anyone on the list have an older AVL loom that all the cords are texolv not cables? 
2 How do I get in touch with Peggy Osterkamp. Peggy worked with Jim Ahrens on weaving together. If no one can answer this question on the list Peggy Osterkamp can. Maybe Peggy might be on this list.  

I want to thank weavers in advance  

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 



  

 

 

         

 

 

    


Re: Cable or Cord

Merna Strauch
 

Joe, Peggy has an active blog with a place to contact her directly —

On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:


Hi Everyone 

I have a full frame/modular AVL loom from about 1976-to-1980 is the best we can figure out. Jim Ahrens built looms before this time. The loom is before the number system used on AVL looms of today. I went looking around the web I found a Websight that was put together by Peggy Osterkamp that explains Things to do with the side tie up on treadle AVL looms. In looking at the pictures of what Peggy is explaining about the side tie up of the loom. The loom does not have "cables" in any of the pictures the loom has all "texolv cords" I can see this looking really close at the pictures. 

I have two questions 

1 does anyone on the list have an older AVL loom that all the cords are texolv not cables? 
2 How do I get in touch with Peggy Osterkamp. Peggy worked with Jim Ahrens on weaving together. If no one can answer this question on the list Peggy Osterkamp can. Maybe Peggy might be on this list.  

I want to thank weavers in advance  

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 



  

 

 

         

 

 

    


Cable or Cord

Joe P
 

Hi Everyone 

I have a full frame/modular AVL loom from about 1976-to-1980 is the best we can figure out. Jim Ahrens built looms before this time. The loom is before the number system used on AVL looms of today. I went looking around the web I found a Websight that was put together by Peggy Osterkamp that explains Things to do with the side tie up on treadle AVL looms. In looking at the pictures of what Peggy is explaining about the side tie up of the loom. The loom does not have "cables" in any of the pictures the loom has all "texolv cords" I can see this looking really close at the pictures. 

I have two questions 

1 does anyone on the list have an older AVL loom that all the cords are texolv not cables? 
2 How do I get in touch with Peggy Osterkamp. Peggy worked with Jim Ahrens on weaving together. If no one can answer this question on the list Peggy Osterkamp can. Maybe Peggy might be on this list.  

I want to thank weavers in advance  

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 



  

 

 

         

 

 

    


Re: Older AVL Question

Denise demkowicz
 

Hi Joe,

Looks like 5 5/8” on my AVL, vintage 1989. 

Denise Demkowicz, CPIM, CSCP, CLTD

On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Igor Raven <igorraven1@...> wrote:


7 1/4"  outside of the raddle
igor

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 12:19 PM Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone 

The plan beam on my older AVL fills with a raddle. The raddle is held on to the back of the loom with two pins. I would be grateful if anyone knows how long the pins are? That holds the raddle on the loom.  Would be of great help, Better then guess work. 

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 

  


Re: Older AVL Question

Igor Raven
 

7 1/4"  outside of the raddle
igor


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 12:19 PM Joe P <rugsbyjoe@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone 

The plan beam on my older AVL fills with a raddle. The raddle is held on to the back of the loom with two pins. I would be grateful if anyone knows how long the pins are? That holds the raddle on the loom.  Would be of great help, Better then guess work. 

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 

  


Older AVL Question

Joe P
 

Hi Everyone 

The plan beam on my older AVL fills with a raddle. The raddle is held on to the back of the loom with two pins. I would be grateful if anyone knows how long the pins are? That holds the raddle on the loom.  Would be of great help, Better then guess work. 

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A. 

  


Failure Notice

Sigrid Piroch <jacquardweaver@...>
 

Hi Pat,

At the moment our complete set is in boxes at Thousand Islands, so I asked Mom, and she estimates about 30 folios but doesn't recall completely without seeing her collection. I doubt there is an index. He sent them around the world to paid subscribers, and they have samples. It’s especially unusual given that he’s the only well-known male weaver of this period. 

The Hickman family also had a complete set, as did the Hickman family, but I don't know if the latter kept them. The widow Mom worked with has since passed away. Tidball is older Mom says, but I have seen some of her books in Mom's collections.

You remind me of Mom - She has tons of CW study group swatches for me to organize and put in binders down the line. :)

Deb, Sig’s daughter


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To: Deb <dpiroch@...>
Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2021 5:37 pm
Subject: Fwd: [weavetech] Hickman Folios



Sigrid at ARTS

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Pat via groups..io" <knitspinweave@...>
Date: July 17, 2021 at 11:00:19 AM EDT
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] Hickman Folios
Reply-To: weavetech@groups..io


A few years ago I rescued a box of "old stuff" from oblivion, flipped through it quickly and set it aside.  I just looked, most of it is Hickman portfolios. I do not see dates or issue numbers on them.  Is there an index somewhere so I can determine who complete this collection is?

Pat Brown
On Saturday, July 17, 2021, 10:32:38 AM EDT, Mary Underwood via groups.io <amoscorey@...> wrote:


Who knew so few of Hickman’s folios still existed.  Somehow I think there are lots out there in guild libraries and private collections.  At least I hope so.
I believe I have Elmer Hickman’s entire folio collection and absolutely love each of them.  His tweeds knock your socks off.  Simply stunning.  One would not believe they were handwoven.  I treasure these folios.  A relic of the past when courses featured swatches.

I also have pretty much all of Harriet Tidball’s folios and correspondence courses.  And then there’s the 4 color collections of woven samples from Malin Selander.

So many treasures from our past weavers.  One reason I value all our CW study group swatch notebooks so much.  Educating our minds and our fingers.

Mary Underwood
Ann Arbor





Old Technology Available

Sara von Tresckow
 

I am cleaning house this summer. Among some of my "antiques" is a real, old
fashioned slide projector in working order.
If anyone is interested in picking it up in Fond du Lac, WI, let me know. I
hate to throw it out if someone could make use of it.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@woolgatherers.com
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Dutch Master Loom/Spinning Chairs/Öxabäck
Looms, visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs


Re: Can anyone tell me more about this loom?

Sally O
 

Thanks, Sara.

I'll give it a go!


Re: Beka 8 shaft floor loom

leslie.bolin@...
 

I recently acquired an 8 harness Beka, and found the manual here: bekainc.com/images/stories/files/floor%20loom%20-%20discontinued.pdf


Re: Can anyone tell me more about this loom?

Sara von Tresckow
 

Sally,
For my presentation at complex next summer, I order some lovely fabric
samples from this place
www.sartor.cz
It is run by two sisters in Prague who have extensive knowledge of textiles
- one even had a copy of my drawloom book on her bookshelf.
Why don't you try there. The site has an English version and there is a
contact form.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@woolgatherers.com
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Dutch Master Loom/Spinning Chairs/Öxabäck
Looms, visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs


Re: Can anyone tell me more about this loom?

Nann Miller
 

Have you asked the Textile Center in Minneapolis for information?  They have Janet Meany's library of loom information.  Last I talked to them, not everything was catalogued yet, but they were working on it.
Nann Miller


From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Sally O via groups.io <s.orgren@...>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 10:28 AM
To: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: [weavetech] Can anyone tell me more about this loom?
 
According to the label this loom was made in Prague. Checking in with an American living in Prague for 8 years, I learned the street address still exists but not the company, as far as they can tell.

It's a very large (32" weaving width, about 36" deep and lightweight), 4-shaft table loom with a shaft-lifting mechanism is similar to the Louet Klik, or Eric de Ruiter's traveling loom. It stands 10" tall, so the heddles (wire-open eye, not flat steel) are very short. Approximately 75 heddles per shaft. The cloth-to-front beam ratio is barely 3 fingers, so one can't weave a rug or heavy pile on this loom. (Its about the same distance as on a Dorothy or Voyager.)

The reed is marked 80 cm and also has 288 embossed on it. (288 divided by 32" = 9 epi). The beater is not fixed to the frame in any way, nor is there evidence it ever was attached. It came with a very long, thin, stick shuttle.

- Any speculation on when it might have been made?
- If it is a specific-use loom, what cultural weaving traditions in cloth might have been practiced on this loom?
- Where else can I investigate? (I contacted the curator and librarian at the National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library, they had not seen one like this before)

Surely this can't be a unicorn - any enlightenment greatly appreciated.

BTW - It seems functional and I plan to warp it next month for a fall demonstration hosted the historical society who now owns it. I am in hopes a family member who donated it can be coached to weave on it for the event.









Can anyone tell me more about this loom?

Sally O
 

According to the label this loom was made in Prague. Checking in with an American living in Prague for 8 years, I learned the street address still exists but not the company, as far as they can tell.

It's a very large (32" weaving width, about 36" deep and lightweight), 4-shaft table loom with a shaft-lifting mechanism is similar to the Louet Klik, or Eric de Ruiter's traveling loom. It stands 10" tall, so the heddles (wire-open eye, not flat steel) are very short. Approximately 75 heddles per shaft. The cloth-to-front beam ratio is barely 3 fingers, so one can't weave a rug or heavy pile on this loom. (Its about the same distance as on a Dorothy or Voyager.)

The reed is marked 80 cm and also has 288 embossed on it. (288 divided by 32" = 9 epi). The beater is not fixed to the frame in any way, nor is there evidence it ever was attached. It came with a very long, thin, stick shuttle.

- Any speculation on when it might have been made?
- If it is a specific-use loom, what cultural weaving traditions in cloth might have been practiced on this loom?
- Where else can I investigate? (I contacted the curator and librarian at the National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library, they had not seen one like this before)

Surely this can't be a unicorn - any enlightenment greatly appreciated.

BTW - It seems functional and I plan to warp it next month for a fall demonstration hosted the historical society who now owns it. I am in hopes a family member who donated it can be coached to weave on it for the event.









Re: 2 warp beams improvised

Kati Meek
 

For decades, whenever I have needed a second warp beam, for a pattern warp or a second warp with different characteristics, I've found it simple and easy to directly-weight the warps in even groups with carefully selected weights.  (First time it was with olive-oil and wine bottles from the pantry)  It is far-far easier to adjust the tensions for each advance of the warp. [If the beamed warp is live-weight-tensioned it is even easier as the relationship between the two warp tensions does not vary, and viola, weaving proceeds easily from beginning to end,only needing to lower the direct-weights when  they rise to the back beam.  If the two need separated, a couple bottle-caps will support a stick to keep the lighter warp(s) above the beamed warp. I'll attach pictures of the first direct-tensioned warp parts I wove from 1980's. Treadle with Joy, Kati


Re: 2 warp beams

Sally O
 

Unexpected twist to your story, Joe!
I thought you were going to tell us the loom ripped your cargo shorts right off of you!

I have a pair of pants and a shirt that have holes in them from an unexpected loom attack.
Sorry to hear about the broken parts - but I am glad it wasn't you that broke something, and that you are well on your way to a loom fix.


Re: in re marge coe and her facebook note today

Laurie Schellinger
 

I also enjoy the group. I have only posted a few times and have alway found the answers helpful. It is always interesting to see what others have questions about. Laurie


On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32 AM Nann Miller <ngmille@...> wrote:
As Syne, I don't post much, but I value both groups...they seem to provide different posts, and I need all the help I can get!  I have been helped greatly by both.
Nann Miller

From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Syne Mitchell via groups.io <synemitchell=gmail.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:45 AM
To: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [weavetech] in re marge coe and her facebook note today
 
I, too, treasure this group, though I listen far more than I post. I'm glad it's sticking around. :)

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM nancy via groups.io <biggins=pacific.net@groups.io> wrote:
i tried several things but could not figure out how to reply to her or
to all of us on the facebook page.  she refers to how quiet weavers are
these days and maybe we dont need or want "lists" any more.

please, please, please.... do not disband us even if we are few and far
between some days or weeks.   weavetech is my sole access to weavers or
weaving discussions of any kind.   i subscribe to the standard magazines
and journals but for the human touch or contact, this is all i have, 
and i PRIZE IT however infrequent it may be

during pandemic, maybe most did not get to go to conferences etc to
report back on, but that is ok.   please just keep us going for however
infrequent we maybe because for some of us is our only connection to
weavers or even rest of humanity


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Re: in re marge coe and her facebook note today

Nann Miller
 

As Syne, I don't post much, but I value both groups...they seem to provide different posts, and I need all the help I can get!  I have been helped greatly by both.
Nann Miller


From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> on behalf of Syne Mitchell via groups.io <synemitchell@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:45 AM
To: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [weavetech] in re marge coe and her facebook note today
 
I, too, treasure this group, though I listen far more than I post. I'm glad it's sticking around. :)

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM nancy via groups.io <biggins=pacific.net@groups.io> wrote:
i tried several things but could not figure out how to reply to her or
to all of us on the facebook page.  she refers to how quiet weavers are
these days and maybe we dont need or want "lists" any more.

please, please, please.... do not disband us even if we are few and far
between some days or weeks.   weavetech is my sole access to weavers or
weaving discussions of any kind.   i subscribe to the standard magazines
and journals but for the human touch or contact, this is all i have, 
and i PRIZE IT however infrequent it may be

during pandemic, maybe most did not get to go to conferences etc to
report back on, but that is ok.   please just keep us going for however
infrequent we maybe because for some of us is our only connection to
weavers or even rest of humanity


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Re: 4/4 Cotton

bigwhitesofadog
 

Maurice Brassard makes 8/8 cotton (same weight as 4/4) in 81 colors.
The Woolery carries it, as do other mail order suppliers. Or you can
use two strands of 8/4 as one. You can get an account with Brassard
and get it directly from them. Brassard's cotton is not hard spun rug
warp, as Maysville's is. It is much softer. If I was looking for rug
warp heavier than 8/4, I would use multiple strands of 8/4, or look to
Scandinavian suppliers.
Sandra


Re: in re marge coe and her facebook note today

Gudny Isachsen
 

I am glad this group exists and way should it not survive,
if the members like it and the moderator is willing to do the job?
- no facebook for me -

Gudny in sunny east Norway

margcoe wrote:
: I would add however, that for any group to survive, whatever the
: platform, it needs frequent and lively participation from a
: relatively wide range of its members, not the intrepid few.
:
: Marg
: PS Hi, Larry!
:
: Sent from iDevice
: coeweaves.com
: e-weave-online.thinkific.com
:
:: On Jul 20, 2021, at 7:13 AM, lvnovak1 <weaving@sweetlucybrown.com>
:: wrote:
:: More and more I think of Facebook as the evil empire and I don’t
:: use it any more. I’m glad to have this group.
::
:: Larry
:: p.s. - Hi Marg!
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