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Re: Live tension: Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom

margcoe
 

Hi Rob

AVL Looms, until the recent K Loom, are mostly Jack looms and have live tensioning on the warp beam. The K loom is different. It is countermarch with warp beam and automatic tension built in. The warp beam tension is set online and WIFI is used to connect to the loom. Then each time the shed changes the warp moves forward for the number of picks per inch set.

Marg


Marg Coe
coeweaves.com
e-weave-online.thinkific.com


Re: Live tension: Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom

Linda Schultz
 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 08:53 AM, Rob wrote:
However, I’ve never seen this mentioned in any book regarding jack looms.
Hi Rob, I wouldn't read too much into that. I've used (something like) a trapeze for dressing jack looms, and warping both back-to-front and front-to-back. It works fine for a variety of looms/methods.

Linda


Re: Live tension: Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom

nancy
 

i old woman/nancy have done this with jack loom by standing my sixfoot ladder next to loom.  not elegant, but workable

/s/nancy biggins

On 6/13/2021 8:53 AM, Rob via groups.io wrote:
I have your book Katie.  I know Tom Knisley and your book discuss the trapeze.  However, I’ve never seen this mentioned in any book regarding jack looms.  Is there a reason for this or perhaps I’m reading the wrong books.  

Rob


On Jun 13, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Kati Meek <krmeek@...> wrote:

Thank you Marg for mentioning the book!
I was negligent in failing to say the 3rd edition of Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom is now available from Vav Stuga, www.vavstuga.com 
Treadle with Joy, Kati

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Re: Live tension: Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom

Rob
 

I have your book Katie.  I know Tom Knisley and your book discuss the trapeze.  However, I’ve never seen this mentioned in any book regarding jack looms.  Is there a reason for this or perhaps I’m reading the wrong books.  

Rob


On Jun 13, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Kati Meek <krmeek@...> wrote:

Thank you Marg for mentioning the book!
I was negligent in failing to say the 3rd edition of Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom is now available from Vav Stuga, www.vavstuga.com 
Treadle with Joy, Kati


Live tension: Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom

Kati Meek
 

Thank you Marg for mentioning the book!
I was negligent in failing to say the 3rd edition of Warp with a Trapeze and Dance with your Loom is now available from Vav Stuga, www.vavstuga.com 
Treadle with Joy, Kati


Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Pat Bullen
 

I like small recyclable water bottles.  Easy to adjust weight by adding/subtracting water.
I tie a tight cord around the neck and use a closable metal hook or S hook to hang it.
Pat Bullen


Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Pamela Graham
 

Thanks for the info. I actually have that book…will check it out.
Pam

On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Janell Neulinger <janell.neulinger@...> wrote:

Hi!

I decided to supplement my floor loom with an Ashford Katie table loom for portability, and while I wait for it to arrive I thought I would get the live tension bits ready.

Folks with small looms for narrow <=12” warps: how much weight are you using on the ‘heavy’ side? And what are you using?

My idea was to use a beam-width length of rebar (or stainless laboratory ‘cage’ bar). The big loom has a pair of canoe anchors… I am familiar with the concept and just looking for specific implementation info for teensy looms. 

thanks!

—janell



Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

margcoe
 

It is a form of brake for the warp beam that allows the warp to move forward maintaining a consistent tension as you weave. Some looms come with live tension, such as most of the AVL looms. It can be added to most other looms. Kati Reeder Meek wrote a great little book on the system “Warp With a Trapeze and Dance With Your Loom.”

Marg

Marg Coe
coeweaves.com
e-weave-online.thinkific.com

On Jun 12, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Pamela Graham <pgraham173@comcast.net> wrote:

Please forgive my ignorance but what exactly is live tension and when would one use it?

Thank you!
Pam


Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Pamela Graham
 

Please forgive my ignorance but what exactly is live tension and when would one use it?

Thank you!
Pam

On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Lorelei Caracausa <beeweaverstudio@...> wrote:

I have been known to hang smallish cloth bags on the tension bar, and then can add and subtract weight until I am happy with it

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:21 PM Janell Neulinger <janell.neulinger@...> wrote:

Hi!

I decided to supplement my floor loom with an Ashford Katie table loom for portability, and while I wait for it to arrive I thought I would get the live tension bits ready.

Folks with small looms for narrow <=12” warps: how much weight are you using on the ‘heavy’ side? And what are you using?

My idea was to use a beam-width length of rebar (or stainless laboratory ‘cage’ bar). The big loom has a pair of canoe anchors… I am familiar with the concept and just looking for specific implementation info for teensy looms. 

thanks!

—janell





Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Janell Neulinger
 

That’s super helpful. A half gallon starting point = 4 pounds. 

Thanks! 


Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Kati Meek
 

Congratulations Janell, on adding to your 'loom stable'  My workshop students are advised to bring a gallon jug with a water bottle for counterweight. We start with 1/2 gallon of water and add if the tension is not sufficient to resist the desired ppi.  Looms usually have a brake on only one side, so a tensioning weight on one side of the beam is usually sufficient for small looms.  Treadle with Joy, Kati

Kati Meek
Treehouse Studio


Re: Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Lorelei Caracausa
 

I have been known to hang smallish cloth bags on the tension bar, and then can add and subtract weight until I am happy with it


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:21 PM Janell Neulinger <janell.neulinger@...> wrote:

Hi!

I decided to supplement my floor loom with an Ashford Katie table loom for portability, and while I wait for it to arrive I thought I would get the live tension bits ready.

Folks with small looms for narrow <=12” warps: how much weight are you using on the ‘heavy’ side? And what are you using?

My idea was to use a beam-width length of rebar (or stainless laboratory ‘cage’ bar). The big loom has a pair of canoe anchors… I am familiar with the concept and just looking for specific implementation info for teensy looms. 

thanks!

—janell


Live tension for ashford Katie table loom #tableloom

Janell Neulinger
 

Hi!

I decided to supplement my floor loom with an Ashford Katie table loom for portability, and while I wait for it to arrive I thought I would get the live tension bits ready.

Folks with small looms for narrow <=12” warps: how much weight are you using on the ‘heavy’ side? And what are you using?

My idea was to use a beam-width length of rebar (or stainless laboratory ‘cage’ bar). The big loom has a pair of canoe anchors… I am familiar with the concept and just looking for specific implementation info for teensy looms. 

thanks!

—janell


Re: Up Date Zoom

Sally O
 

Yay, Joe!

It is easy, and actually, I like it better than a phone call, because I think it's easier to hear/understand folks when you can see their expressions at the same time. (I have an old landline phone - likely with bad audio.)

Once you can navigate Zoom comfortably, another whole weaving world will open up for you!


Re: Up Date Zoom

Louise K
 

Good for you!

Louise 
 If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. Will Rogers 
You don't throw a whole life away just 'cause it's banged up a little." SeaBiscuit, 2003


Re: Up Date Zoom

Louise Yale
 

Go Joe !!
Louise

Hi Everyone

I got the call from the senior center that it was my turn to learn how to
use zoom. This past afternoon was first lesson.

It is a government program for seniors. It is not the normal computer
classes held at the senior center. We are loaned an Apple 10 tablet; A hot
spot is from a library to be renewed like a book every 3 weeks. a great
easy to read instruction book. With great pictures as well and big print.
One on one with teacher.

We got started at 1:00 and 45 min later I was Zooming with the teacher. I
can say this There is not a lot to Zooming. If I can learn it anyone can.
All that has to be done is type in an ID number and a pass word. I am not
to this point yet I just wanted to see how zoom worked today.

From the senior center I went to the library and got the hot spot thing.

I got home and I figured out how to connect my WI-FI and I am not sure how
to connect the hot spot I will have help with that. Later tonight. Now all
I have to do is practice with the tablet for this week and the end of next
week is second class.

I will be able to learn how to post pictures of my weaving. A weaving work
shop on zoom might be fun.

Keep Weaving
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.
















Up Date Zoom

Joe P
 

Hi Everyone 

I got the call from the senior center that it was my turn to learn how to use zoom. This past afternoon was first lesson. 

It is a government program for seniors. It is not the normal computer classes held at the senior center. We are loaned an Apple 10 tablet; A hot spot is from a library to be renewed like a book every 3 weeks. a great easy to read instruction book. With great pictures as well and big print. One on one with teacher.  

We got started at 1:00 and 45 min later I was Zooming with the teacher. I can say this There is not a lot to Zooming. If I can learn it anyone can. All that has to be done is type in an ID number and a pass word. I am not to this point yet I just wanted to see how zoom worked today. 

From the senior center I went to the library and got the hot spot thing.  

I got home and I figured out how to connect my WI-FI and I am not sure how to connect the hot spot I will have help with that. Later tonight. Now all I have to do is practice with the tablet for this week and the end of next week is second class.  

I will be able to learn how to post pictures of my weaving. A weaving work shop on zoom might be fun.  

Keep Weaving 
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.



 

 



 


Re: Looking for book

margcoe
 

Here is a good article on Honeysuckle at Ralph’s Digital Archive.



Marg Coe
coeweaves.com
e-weave-online.thinkific.com


Re: Looking for book

Sally O
 

Joe,

I've been weaving for a while now (nearly 30 years) and just realized I don't hear the term "honeysuckle" hardly at all anymore.

Has it been replaced by a different term?

There is an article in The Weaver by Berta Frey, "How many ways to Weave Honeysuckle?" that I think you can find online (a pdf) if you haven't already discoved it.


Re: Looking for book

Louise Yale
 

Hi Joe
There is a Honeysuckle Twill in Davison, page 132* with 14 variations.

* 1977 edition

Louise in Norcal

Hi Everyone

I am looking for self-wrote book form years gone by I found out about this
book In the Four Harnes Primer wrote by Alice K. Cripps. Also wrote in
years gone by. If anyone has it and is willing to part with Please send me
off list e-mail

Honeysuckle Pattern
100 Different Threadings $1.00
Mrs. B. Needham
Box 91
Safety Harbor, Florida

Thank You

Keep Weaving
Joe Bear in WI U.S.A.







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