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Re: Wool or Hair?

Pat Bullen
 

From what I could gather, it is only illegal to sell or barter dog or cat hair or items made from dog or cat hair.  It is under their cruelty to animals statute.  Seems bizarre but when we spun and wove an animal hair sampler from various zoo animals for the Columbus Zoo, they quit showing it when people thought it was cruel to kill the animal to get the hair.  We got that question frequently at public spinning demonstrations.  That's why my Pyrenees, Natasha, frequently laid by my side at spinning demonstrations.  She loved being brushed and I would take the hair right from the brush and spin it.


Re: Wool or Hair?

Sally O
 

Interesting article!

Spinning dog hair is illegal in New Jersey. I thought this might be an urban myth, but it is not.

The reason the law was enacted was for the reason Judy C mentioned.


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Ros Wardall
 

That is brilliant Su.  Thank you.  Ros

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Subu
Sent: 13 October 2020 14:19
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

 

Hi Ros……my  husband said he is willing to work on the Lace program, but he must have the source code to make the necessary changes.  So now he has to see if Judy still has the source code for this program.  If she does and is willing to let him “improve” it, I’ll let you know.

 

Best,

Su Butler 😊

 

 

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Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Subu
 

Hi Ros……my  husband said he is willing to work on the Lace program, but he must have the source code to make the necessary changes.  So now he has to see if Judy still has the source code for this program.  If she does and is willing to let him “improve” it, I’ll let you know.

 

Best,

Su Butler 😊

 


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Re: Silk/ramie yarn

Denise Drake
 

60/2/2 is 2 60/2’s plyed together making is equal to a 30/2.

Denise Drake
ddrake@...
Denise Drake Interior Design
4976 Avery Ln S
Fargo ND 58104
T 701 235 8803   M 701 866 2130  

On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Tina Hilton <tlhilton@...> wrote:


This is a little off-topic, but can someone explain the numbering system for this yarn?  I understand what 60/2 yarn would be, but what is 60/2/2?

Thanks,

Tina

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:28 PM Denise Drake <ddrake@...> wrote:
Denise,
Treenway is now dyeing 60/2/2 Silk.  She is changing her 30/2 to 60/2/2.  I’m placing an order and I need to have 5 skeins of the same color if you are interested in going together on some.  4 week lead time.

Denise Drake
ddrake@...
Denise Drake Interior Design
4976 Avery Ln S
Fargo ND 58104
T 701 235 8803   M 701 866 2130  

On Oct 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Moncrief via groups.io <l.moncrief=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

You might try the Silk Weaving Studio, Granville Island

SanjoSilk.com

Liz Moncrief,    www.aweaversway.com
Instagram address: moncriefliz
 


On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Denise <dkovn@...> wrote:

Question for the group: Does anyone know of a source for silk/ramie yarn -- specifically 60/2/2 silk/ramie? Treenway has discontinued it and all I can find online is a source for 20/2. I would prefer finer than that, however. Thanks!

Regards,
Denise Kovnat
www.denisekovnat.com

--
Denise Drake


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Denise Drake


Re: Silk/ramie yarn

Subu
 

Two plies of 60/2 yarn together to form a yarn quite like the size of a 30/2?  I am actually plying two 60/2 strands together for my current project because I don’t have any 30/2 in the right colorway.

 

Su Butler 😊

 

 


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Re: Silk/ramie yarn

Tina Hilton
 

This is a little off-topic, but can someone explain the numbering system for this yarn?  I understand what 60/2 yarn would be, but what is 60/2/2?

Thanks,

Tina


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:28 PM Denise Drake <ddrake@...> wrote:
Denise,
Treenway is now dyeing 60/2/2 Silk.  She is changing her 30/2 to 60/2/2.  I’m placing an order and I need to have 5 skeins of the same color if you are interested in going together on some.  4 week lead time.

Denise Drake
ddrake@...
Denise Drake Interior Design
4976 Avery Ln S
Fargo ND 58104
T 701 235 8803   M 701 866 2130  

On Oct 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Moncrief via groups.io <l.moncrief=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

You might try the Silk Weaving Studio, Granville Island

SanjoSilk.com

Liz Moncrief,    www.aweaversway.com
Instagram address: moncriefliz
 


On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Denise <dkovn@...> wrote:

Question for the group: Does anyone know of a source for silk/ramie yarn -- specifically 60/2/2 silk/ramie? Treenway has discontinued it and all I can find online is a source for 20/2. I would prefer finer than that, however. Thanks!

Regards,
Denise Kovnat
www.denisekovnat.com

--
Denise Drake


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Ros Wardall
 

Yes Su.  It was from your website I downloaded my version of the Lace-2011 software - but was a bit cautious to mention.  I would be very interested too if your husband can work the same magic and obtain the source code for the program.

My 'old' computers probably deserve to be placed in a museum.  No easy way to communicate with them.

Ros :)


Re: Silk/ramie yarn

Denise Drake
 

Denise,
Treenway is now dyeing 60/2/2 Silk.  She is changing her 30/2 to 60/2/2.  I’m placing an order and I need to have 5 skeins of the same color if you are interested in going together on some.  4 week lead time.

Denise Drake
ddrake@...
Denise Drake Interior Design
4976 Avery Ln S
Fargo ND 58104
T 701 235 8803   M 701 866 2130  

On Oct 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Moncrief via groups.io <l.moncrief@...> wrote:

You might try the Silk Weaving Studio, Granville Island

SanjoSilk.com

Liz Moncrief,    www.aweaversway.com
Instagram address: moncriefliz
 


On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Denise <dkovn@...> wrote:

Question for the group: Does anyone know of a source for silk/ramie yarn -- specifically 60/2/2 silk/ramie? Treenway has discontinued it and all I can find online is a source for 20/2. I would prefer finer than that, however. Thanks!

Regards,
Denise Kovnat
www.denisekovnat.com

--
Denise Drake


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Mary Berent
 

That would be GREAT, Su!  I am not computer knowledgeable and would not try the things suggested to make the lace program work on Windows 10.  I do have an old laptop with the lace program on it and I use it occasionally with a jump drive, that laptop also has no internet/network.  I would use it more often if it were more convenient (on my main computer).  I’ll keep my fingers crossed for that!!

 

Mary Berent, Master Weaver

769 N Grey Pebble Way

Eagle ID 83616

208-901-5640

mary-berent.com

 

From: weavetech@groups.io [mailto:weavetech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Subu
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 9:57 AM
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

 

The lace program works well on Windows 8 and below…….

 

My website (www.subudesigns.com) hosts David Raup’s Swoosh Rug Design program.  It did not work on Windows 10 but my clever husband did some magic and now it works on windows 10 machines.  We did this upgrade with Judy Yamamoto’s blessing (David’s widow).  I don’t know what my husband did but I could ask him if he thinks he could do the same with the lace program, however we would need a copy of the code for the program.  This issue is definitely 32 bit vs. 64 bit. 

 

Husband set me up with a virtual machine on my PC so I can run even the first DOS versions of Fiberworks, and I can run David’s programs as well.  I love some of the older software…..never will understand why developers chop the most important stuff when they “improve” it.   I miss the ability to create my own threading units/blocks in PCW…..I still have it on my older software.

 

Anyway, if someone has the lace program with the original code, my husband can probably make it work on Win 10 but we would need Judy’s permission before moving forward.

 

Best,

Su Butler

 

 

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Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Subu
 

The lace program works well on Windows 8 and below…….

 

My website (www.subudesigns.com) hosts David Raup’s Swoosh Rug Design program.  It did not work on Windows 10 but my clever husband did some magic and now it works on windows 10 machines.  We did this upgrade with Judy Yamamoto’s blessing (David’s widow).  I don’t know what my husband did but I could ask him if he thinks he could do the same with the lace program, however we would need a copy of the code for the program.  This issue is definitely 32 bit vs. 64 bit. 

 

Husband set me up with a virtual machine on my PC so I can run even the first DOS versions of Fiberworks, and I can run David’s programs as well.  I love some of the older software…..never will understand why developers chop the most important stuff when they “improve” it.   I miss the ability to create my own threading units/blocks in PCW…..I still have it on my older software.

 

Anyway, if someone has the lace program with the original code, my husband can probably make it work on Win 10 but we would need Judy’s permission before moving forward.

 

Best,

Su Butler

 


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Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Nancy Hassel
 

Google research found an article: Weaving Software on the Cheap   by Marg Coe (Weavezine 2009) that described the program & stated the software could be downloaded the WeavePoint page.  The link to the software is no longer on the page but WeavePont seems to have incorporated the lace viewing capability.

A Google search for "LACE-2011" found a more recent version of the software for free download.  There is no installer - one must only unzip a directory & double-click the .exe file.  The accompanying document states: "Works with Windows 2000, ME, Vista, and the 32-bit versions of XP and Windows 7. The 64-bit versions of XP and Win 7 may work with appropriate workarounds or emulators but these have not been tested fully)"

I tested it on my 64-bit Windows 10 PC and it would not execute.  I tested it on my 32-bit Windows 10 PC and it executed but generated an immediate fatal exception at an address in the included .DLL file (Visual Basic object code).  

This is a long-winded way of suggesting that the LACE-2011 software be used on a Windows 7 PC or that WeavePoint capabilities should be further explored or that one should consider (very politely) contacting the author.

--
Nancy Hassel
http://fiber.hassel.net


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

bigwhitesofadog
 

I use thumb drives to transfer files from the machine that I do my design work  on and the laptops that run the looms.  I could use cloud, but there's no WiFi in the studio.
Sandra


Re: Wool or Hair?

kathyo
 

Just a thought....

When I’ve spun dog and cat, I washed the yarn with Dawn and shampoo (usually head&shoulders or Prell) then I rinsed in water with Just a thought.... ome lemon juice added ... all furry family members ignored yarn after that rinse... I also add some lemon juice to the rinse with subsequent laundering.

The shampoo choice is whatever we are personally using... then even if there are undertones of original animal, the yarn now smells a lot like us too...

Might be worth a try...

kathyo
Granbury TX


Re: Wool or Hair?

Jane Deane
 

Not just other dogs! A friend wove a rug from a ram fleece - the dog was torn between trying to kill it or mate with it, and the cat assumed it was an extra littler box! Apparently the solution is to wash in bio detergent because that takes the testosterone away for good. Also how you stop cats peeing in the wrong place. Ordinary cleaners and detergents often have ammonia in them, which is the signal smell that triggers the peeing.

You're welcome!

Jane


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Ros Wardall
 

I have recently joined this group and read with interest the possibility of enabling Lace-2011 to run on a 64 bit machine.  
I have tried all the applicable suggestions made to no avail.
I do have 'old' PCs which may run the program but then I would have the difficulty of transferring the program and data between different machines to fully utilise the software.
If anyone has had better success it would be great to hear about it or if there is another way to show deflected warp or weft threads in the design process then that would be great too.
Whilst lace weaving is of interest - Ondule weaving is of more.
Ros


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

johnacord
 

Install Oracle VirtualBox in Linux with your 32-bit OS in the virtual machine.  I run Linux Mint with my copy of Windows 7 in the VM to run windows things.  Or install CrossOver in Linux which is a way to run some windows programs. 

John Acord
Flatwater Electronics


Re: Wool or Hair?

Judy Casserberg
 

Dog have a MUCH greater sensitivity to smell. That is why they are being trained to sniff out disease, drugs, gun powder etc. Even if we as humans cannot smell something it does not mean it doesn’t smell. Articles made with dog hair do smell like dog to other dogs and is something to be taken into consideration when using it.

 

 

Judy Casserberg

Being warped is to live the good life

 

From: weavetech@groups.io <weavetech@groups.io> On Behalf Of Virginia Glenn via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 6:37 PM
To: weavetech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [weavetech] Wool or Hair?

 

When I first started weaving, back in the mid 70's, the big fluffy hand spun yarn was popular. I made a woven wall hanging from some yarn that was labeled "wolf hair yarn".  I gave it to a friend who had German Shepherd.  She hung it on the wall but finally had to take it down and hide it because her dog was constantly growling at it. Obviously he could smell it.


Re: David Raup's Lace visualizer program #weaving

Pam Rathmell
 

These are all great suggestions and I’ll give the ones that might work for me a try.  I don’t think I have a 32 bit windows machine, anymore but I might be able to install a 32bit OS and dual boot.  I dont suppose it runs under Linux


Re: Wool or Hair?

Virginia Glenn
 

When I first started weaving, back in the mid 70's, the big fluffy hand spun yarn was popular. I made a woven wall hanging from some yarn that was labeled "wolf hair yarn".  I gave it to a friend who had German Shepherd.  She hung it on the wall but finally had to take it down and hide it because her dog was constantly growling at it. Obviously he could smell it.

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