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Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Bob DeJong
 

Hi Amy, what about using a Facebook group?  I think you can store photos and documents, etc.  

On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 7:42:43 PM EDT, amyfibre@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> wrote:


 

Hi all -

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

Amy Norris
Admin, WeaveTech



Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Jocelyn Freeman
 

Thank you for dealing with all of it, I enjoy the postings. Joey Freeman

 

From: WeaveTech@... [mailto:WeaveTech@...]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:36 AM
To: WeaveTech@...
Subject: [WeaveTech] ADMIN - YahooGroups

 

 

Hi all -

 

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

 

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

 

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

 

I'll keep you posted.

 

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

 

Amy Norris

Admin, WeaveTech

 


Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Amy N
 

Please do not email any comments or suggestions on this to the group.  It's just going to clutter up our archives with non-weaving related posts. 

If you want to share something with me, please email me directly (amy@...).

Thank you,
Amy Norris
Admin, WeaveTech



Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Sara von Tresckow
 

That item in SourceForge was last updated in 2015. With continuing
development both in operating systems and Yahoo platform, I wouldn't put a
lot of faith in that app.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Dutch Master Loom/Spinning Chairs/Öxabäck
Looms, visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs


Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Su Butler
 

Further down the same page are two other options that might work for you Amy…..take a look!

 

Su Butler

 

 

 

HI Amy….don’t know for sure if this will work but you might look at https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:windows/?q=yahoo+photo+downloader   Scroll down to the third option, PD – PhotoDownloader..   It is old but perhaps would work??

 

Su

 


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Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Su Butler
 

P.s. – further down the same page is Yahoo Group archiver, and in the description it says you can download everything from the filres section and all the images from the photo section…..take a look.   https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:windows/?q=yahoo+photo+downloader

 

Su

 

From: WeaveTech@... [mailto:WeaveTech@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:36 PM
To: WeaveTech@...
Subject: [WeaveTech] ADMIN - YahooGroups

 




Hi all -

 

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

 

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

 

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

 

I'll keep you posted.

 

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

 

Amy Norris

Admin, WeaveTech

 





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Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Su Butler
 

HI Amy….don’t know for sure if this will work but you might look at https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:windows/?q=yahoo+photo+downloader   Scroll down to the third option, PD – PhotoDownloader.   It is old but perhaps would work??

 

Su

 

From: WeaveTech@... [mailto:WeaveTech@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:36 PM
To: WeaveTech@...
Subject: [WeaveTech] ADMIN - YahooGroups

 




Hi all -

 

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

 

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

 

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

 

I'll keep you posted.

 

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

 

Amy Norris

Admin, WeaveTech

 





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Re: ADMIN - YahooGroups

Beryl Moody
 

I've migrated a couple of groups to io.  The problem I see is that they only allow 1 GB of storage.  I've downsized files to avoid paying for the service.  Also, they didn't migrate the group as quickly as I thought they would, however it was done quickly once started.

Good luck with the change.

Beryl


On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 4:42 PM amyfibre@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> wrote:
 

Hi all -

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

Amy Norris
Admin, WeaveTech



ADMIN - YahooGroups

Amy N
 

Hi all -

I am aware that some functionality is being eliminated from YahooGroup at the end of this month.  We will no longer be able to upload pictures or files.

Messages will not be affected.  For now.

I am looking at migrating us to groups.io.

I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, I have downloaded (for back up purposes) all the files in storage here.  I have requested a download of the 1,124 photos but am not sure they will be able to accomplish this. The files and photos will not be deleted until mid December.

Amy Norris
Admin, WeaveTech



Re: yahoo closure

Alice
 

Op 17 oktober 2019 om 13:15 schreef "Lynne Chick weaveworks2003@... [WeaveTech]" :

 



I just googled the topic about Yahoo closing.  I see that Yahoo is only closing inactive accounts.  Does anyone find anything different?

Lynne in Maine

On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 06:41:16 AM EDT, jshepp@... [WeaveTech] wrote:




Can I ask what this group is going to do about Yahoo closure, are we looking for another platform? Other groups I am active in have all moved to Groups IO, seems to be a good place.
Cheers Judy







 


Re: yahoo closure

Lynne Chick <weaveworks2003@...>
 

I just googled the topic about Yahoo closing.  I see that Yahoo is only closing inactive accounts.  Does anyone find anything different?

Lynne in Maine

On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 06:41:16 AM EDT, jshepp@... [WeaveTech] wrote:




Can I ask what this group is going to do about Yahoo closure, are we looking for another platform? Other groups I am active in have all moved to Groups IO, seems to be a good place.
Cheers Judy





yahoo closure

jshepp@...
 

Can I ask what this group is going to do about Yahoo closure, are we looking for another platform? Other groups I am active in have all moved to Groups IO, seems to be a good place.
Cheers Judy



Re: Megado dobby 2.0 file problem solved

Sara von Tresckow
 

Sally,
Thank you for the concise explanation.
I have noticed, over the years, that some wif files imported into my weaving
software show slight differences in the colors and display when used in a
program other than the one used to create the wif.
I also generally look carefully when first opened and recreate the original
file, then save it both as wif and "native" format for that program. Any
files sent to my Toika dobby are first rendered clean in Weavepoint and then
saved as Weavepoint files.
Weavepoint has an option when saving to wif format to include both treadling
and liftplan in the file. Fiberworks simply saves the file as wif with no
options.

Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI
sarav@...
Author of “When a Single Harness Simply Isn’t Enough”
http://www.woolgatherers.com Dutch Master Loom/Spinning Chairs/Öxabäck
Looms, visit us in Fond du Lac or contact us about your weaving/spinning
needs


Re: Megado dobby 2.0 file problem solved

Sally Breckenridge
 

The problem with WIF files is that the original specification was very vague and put the onus on the reader.  It makes it more difficult for the programs to read wif because the writer can specify just about anything.  At the time in 1996, I complained to Ravi about that as I was a compiler writer in my career, but I was a newbie in the weaving software world and was ignored.  Now we all pay the price.

iWeaveIt for IOS and Android, and WeaveIt Pro for the Mac all use WIF format as the native format for the program.  This is because its easier on users to not have to make sure files are saved in that format.  The reason binary formats were used in the '90s was because computers were much slower then.   I have encountered no issues using WIF as the native format. Its small and portable.

Since iWeaveIt tends to be a reader for all versions of WIF from different programs, I have had to pay attention to how all the different programs write the wif files.  The biggest areas of issue are the multiple allowed formats for color.  Another problem is that many programs write the wif file as a lift plan rather than treadling.  WeaveIt writes both for those programs that need only lift plan. I know from my users that the generic Louet loom driver has difficultly reading the wifs that are written by WeaveIt.   Since the problem is on the reader side (Louet program), I don't know what it is.  My Louet users use the embedded Louet driver that's in the Windows version of WeaveIt and that works well from the reports I have had.  I have notified Louet about it, but there is nothing I can do on my side since I don't know what the issue is.   I suspect that Fiberworks has the same issue.   Bob and I share files to make sure we can always exchange them.  I also use a number of Pixeloom files and WeavePoint files to make sure they are being read by WeaveIt and iWeaveIt.  I know that the AVL k-loom driver easily reads my WeaveIt wif files as I am using that every day.

It would be nice to change the format, but it is so embedded in programs and drivers and it took 20 years for that to happen, so  it is going to be nearly impossible to change it.  I myself have 4 weaving applications on 4 different operating systems using 4 different programming languages.  It would be an daunting task to change it.   It would be better if the programs work together to solve any current bugs.

Sally Breckenridge


Re: Nice publicity but...

sallyeyring
 

As the writer says, weaving has been "long undervalued as a result of sexism and snobbery."  The snobbery is the result, in part, of the materials used - thread.  When I was an MFA student who was weaving, I had a lot more "explaining" to do than a fellow student who painted still life flowers.  Glass art suffers from something of the same prejudice - the materials used are considered to be craft materials.

It's useful to remember that there was a time when Leonardo da Vinci was considered to be an artist but Michelangelo was not.  Why?   Because Michelangelo was a sculptor and got dirty while working.  Artists were gentlemen (not women, with a few exceptions) and didn't get dirty while working. 

But as the writer also says, "it’s all up to artist to make it relevant to the contemporary world.”

Sally

Visit me at:  sallyeyring.com


Chicago Area Weaving Exhibit

Carol Irving
 

Notice of Exhibit in Chicago area, click on link for details and article in Chicago Daily Herald:

Fine Line's new exhibit features fiber artist's works
Chicago Daily Herald
... Creative Arts Center will exhibit a collection of 12 woven panels titled "A Weaver's Journal of Endangered Wildflowers" by fiber artist Carol Irving.
Thank you,
Carol Irving


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Fine Line's new exhibit features fiber artist's works
Chicago Daily Herald
... Creative Arts Center will exhibit a collection of 12 woven panels titled "A Weaver's Journal of Endangered Wildflowers" by fiber artist Carol Irving.

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Nice publicity but...

Eileen Driscoll
 

I’m not sure the writer of this article know what weaving is, but maybe art weaving is getting some recognition.


Re: Megado dobby 2.0 file problem solved

Deanna Johnson
 

WIF files are plain text, so any problems probably have to do with different programs using the protocol in different ways (ie. one program includes color information, another doesn’t read that section.) I’m guessing ALL of the programs can read the files, it’s just that they aren’t all using the same conventions. So one program may not save certain types of information, and another may require it.

So does “obsolete format” mean that the developers have decided to no longer coordinate their efforts?

Deanna


On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:49 PM, 'margcoe@...' margcoe@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> wrote:

Sandra


Frankly, I’m not technically knowledgeable to respond to this. It is more that programs/programmers are having problems, not necessarily weavers. WIF uses an obsolete format that went out with Windows 3.1. It’s difficult for some programs to read WIF files developed in a different program. Etc.

It has long been recommended that we save files in the native format of the program we are using.

I’m doing better, but I still have a ton of files to re-save.

Marg



On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:20 AM, Sandra Eberhart sandra.eberhart@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> wrote:

Marge, what are the problems that people are having with WIF files?
I have a lot of them that I have gotten from various sources, and I
convert them to Weavepoint files as I use them. If there is a problem
with them being stable I should probably take the time to convert
everything I think I'll want to use..
Sandra


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Re: Megado dobby 2.0 file problem solved

margcoe
 

Sandra

Frankly, I’m not technically knowledgeable to respond to this. It is more that programs/programmers are having problems, not necessarily weavers. WIF uses an obsolete format that went out with Windows 3.1. It’s difficult for some programs to read WIF files developed in a different program. Etc.

It has long been recommended that we save files in the native format of the program we are using.

I’m doing better, but I still have a ton of files to re-save.

Marg



On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:20 AM, Sandra Eberhart sandra.eberhart@... [WeaveTech] <WeaveTech@...> wrote:

Marge, what are the problems that people are having with WIF files?
I have a lot of them that I have gotten from various sources, and I
convert them to Weavepoint files as I use them. If there is a problem
with them being stable I should probably take the time to convert
everything I think I'll want to use.
Sandra


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Re: Megado dobby 2.0 file problem solved

Karen Donde
 

Well, I will have to follow that discussion more closely. But the Louet dobby 2.0 is set up to work with its on board computer via a WiFi connection to a laptop or tablet. It can only read a WIF.
Karen

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