Warp stick ribbons

Karen Kelley Schultz <kksmaddogdesigns@...>

Were these purchased commercially, and if so, where? or were they handmade?
Great idea. I often use masking tape to hold the sticks in place.


Re: Looms with a Low Profile

Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>

In my opinion, the big problem with the low-profile loom design is that you
are pretty much forced to use a rising-shed jack mechanism. And one problem
with this mechanism is the difficulty of lifting many shafts.
So true. It's interesting that Louet says the Megado is a CM loom : I can't call it a CM unless when open,
the center of the shed is at the center of the reed, both planes of the shed
are under the same tension and no shaft can float under very high tension.
Since the shafts appear to be held down by gravity alone......( I've not
been able to try one out so I can't come to a solid conclusion on that ).
To me the biggest problem with a low profile loom is the lack of an overhead
beater and the lack of possible improvisation. I hang stuff from the castle,
pulleys, cords, weights or springs to counterbalance things and so on.
On the other hand, they do allow views over the loom and sort of meld into
the usual home furnishings like an electric organ or small piano. They may
be moved easily ( no chance with ours ! ) and mostly cost less; an important
item for a lot of people.

Happy Shuttling ! - Bill Koepp in Central California

Re: Looms with Low Profile

Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>

(Come to think of it, are there low profile CM or CB looms????)
I've only heard of one low profile CM loom and but can't remember the brand.
It used pulleys to raise & sink shafts.

Happy Shuttling ! - Bill Koepp in Central California

Re: gathering info about studios

Nancy Muller <muller@...>

Hi, Nancy in New Zealand here,
I usually lurk, but am interested in this thread.
I have all my electrical outlets at chest height, it was one of the best things I did in my studio. No searching behind equipment, or bending to plug things in, I also put plenty in, I have double outlets on every wall, and use most of them. My studio is about 6m x 6m, not big enough of course !!
Just thought my 2c worth would help your cause ;0).
Nancy in New Zealand.
spinner, weaver & singer of country music.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brucie
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WeaveTech] gathering info about studios

I wish I'd put all the electrical
>outlets at chest level instead of ankle level.

I am so glad to hear you say this as this is what I want to do and DH
thinks it is a little crazy. Now I can tell him 'tain't so.

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Re: quick return!

Johnetta Heil <luv2weave@...>

welcome back Peter!


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Re: quick return!

Lynne E. Chick <lchick@...>

Glad to know you're still on, Peter.

Lynne in Maine

Re: gathering info about studios


What a timely discussion.

Currently, my looms, wheels, yarns and goodies are housed all over our home.
The floor loom sits in the middle of the living room and the table looms are
in other various rooms, including one on the dining table. We've been
talking about building a studio and all the information from this list will
help greatly.

We raised three kids in a 900 sq. ft home and when they moved on, we moved
here to the mountains into a "spacious" 1400 sq ft home. We were thrilled
and excited about all the extra space. That didn't last long once I got into
the weaving.

We aren't sure exactly what we will build, but your comments will be of great
help. Thanks,

Chris, via cell phone in the mountains



Since my cell phone/internet connection often keeps me from anything except
the emails, I haven't tried all the extras everyone has been talking about
yet. I'll keep your comments, though, for future reference.

It takes a lot of work to coordinate this kind of move and it takes time to
iron out the bugs. Glad to see everyone hanging in there.

Chris, via cell phone in the mountains

quick return!

peter collingwood <peter@...>

I apologise for hasty announcement of departure from this group due to
exasperation with Yahoo's labyrinthine site. (NO, not another password
and ID to remember.. why not ask for passport number too and maiden name
of mother?!)

However Ruth Blau and Amy Norris with great kindness immediately
installed me again as a Digest receiver. So all is as before... and I
hope I may continue to contribute my occasional drops of knowledge into
the ocean of the world's weavers.

Peter Collingwood

Re: Studio Discussion


--- In WeaveTech@y..., mdavis@q... wrote:
--- In WeaveTech@y..., etritthart@w... wrote:

I have recently been considering the idea of building a multiple
dwelling for artists that includes studios and was tring to figure
out how much space to allot. How many units and what sort of
would be needed? Does any one out there think this would be a
worthwile adventure -- are all weavers "family" people with houses
and studios or are some looking to establish themselves?

I think the most exciting part of this move is the decision to
weaving full time. Now I have to figure out the best place to do

I think that would be a grand Idea! I have wanted to do similar for
many years but how? It would take lots of money. I have a small
wooded area in the mountains between NC and VA and have thought it
would be nice to build several cabins and a large studio/conference
center/school/retreat for the arts. When I looked into the cost it
was unbelievable. Even though we're way out in the country and building
codes are rather slack, each cabin will cost at least $20,000 and
that's before any furniture or equipment forget paying for people to

It would be nice and I hope you can do it but, I will have to wait.
Maybe when I retire?

Mike Davis
Mike...This was done many years ago, quite succesfully by Valborg "Mama" Gravander here in the SF area over in the Mill Valley area of Marin County. She had a rather large country property on a hillside and her husband..a retired ship's carpenter..built little cabins here and there on the site, each with a traditional Swedish loom. In the main house she had an enormous weaving room, which he had designed without interior pillars..huge free space to work.

The Gravanders, during the Depression of the 30s, had a large house in the Pacific Heights part of SF where they ran a boarding house and weaving school. Lots of young Swedes and others lived there and worked and learned. Once a week..or was it once a month...they opened the house to the public and they and the young people cooked and served a festive and authentic Swedish dinner..for money.

Mama knew the value of a dollar, and was thrifty all her life. In the years when I knew her she would travel to Sweden once a year and come back with lots of small Swedish antiques..spinning wheels, candle holders, copper pots. She'd have a Lucia Fest and send out invitations and have all the traditional thing to eat and music, the whole works. Then there were all these lovely things around...for sale.

I dearly loved her. We sat on her deck in the sun, me with coffee and a small plate of cookies, she at the spinning wheel. She looked up with a smile after bit and said.."spinning is such damn fun!"

She also put old tennies on the feet of her looms so they would not walk across her wood floors.

I hope some of the other Northern California listers will come up with more anecdotal stuff about this great lady. glen black

Interesting website...I think


Hi a postcard in the snailmail today about the website below

Probably some of you have known this for months, but it delighted me.
Great yarns, high prices, beautiful handwoven cloth. glen b.

Re: gathering info about studios - electrical

Katherine Gunn <kglist@...>

I wish I'd put all the electrical
outlets at chest level instead of ankle level.
I am so glad to hear you say this as this is what I want to do and DH
thinks it is a little crazy. Now I can tell him 'tain't so.
My contractor & electrician just rolled their eyes but I insisted on this -
mine are at waist level I guess you'd say - throughout the *whole house*,
with only a few exeptions - and I just love it !!! I never have to crawl
under furniture to plug things in. I have not found dangling cords to be a

I have included the light-switches in the same locations in quite a few
places (in the same face-plates as the base-plugs) - often just under or at
the ends of windowsills - This height also provides for future wheel-chair
accessibility of both plugs and switches should anyone need it - something
that should be included in any new construction these days.

In workshop and basement, I made them put the base-plugs in the ceiling,
which drove them even crazier! They work really well too!!

Katherine Gunn Ottawa, Canada <>

warp flanges


Now that we can post pics -- could someone post one of the warp
flanges that were discussed recently? Thanks.


photo of warp stick ribbons


Have not seen this in the digest, thought I
would repost it.

Subj: photo of warp stick ribbons
Date: 8/17/01

Hi, I uploaded a photo of my warp stick ribbons that I use on my
Cranbrook to the photo gallery under the equipment/tool segment.
Only thing you can't see is that I used velcro to secure the warp
stick ladder to my warp rod. Works well, prevents the dreaded and
cursed collapsing warp stick syndrome.

Re: gathering info about studios

teresaruch <teresaruch@...>

I wish I'd put all the electrical
outlets at chest level instead of ankle level.
I am so glad to hear you say this as this is what I want to do and DH
thinks it is a little crazy. Now I can tell him 'tain't so.

I rewired my basement studio and routed all the electrical boxes through a
light switch (most of the outlets are used for lights) now when I leave the
studio I just have to throw a switch and the lights and all the equipment
are turned off. no need to worry about something being left on. I do have a
few outlets that are not attached through the switch for permanently on
equipment. bad news the lights have to be on to use the plugs (use one for
outdoor use). Teresa

upcoming UK trip help needed


hi all, could i have some help please? i am will be in the UK,s.e. of
London, sept. 10 to 24th. i would like to visit weaving, textile,
wooly places.
Any ideas, advice?
much thanks in advance
susan keating

Re: electrical outlets/photos....

Ruth Blau <ruthblau@...>

For a computer, one should use a power
strip that also has a surge protection built in, these are pricey little
puppies but worth the peace of mind;
Both my loom and the computer that drives it are on an uninterruptable power supply. These tend to cost over $100, but they are worth it, if you're in a thunderstorm area (as I am). You need to get a UPS that is geared to the power of the equipment you're going to plug into it (the people who sell them can usually help you on that). If the power goes out, your UPS gives you enough power to complete an orderly shutdown rather than having your equipment crash.


Re: gathering info about studios

Deanna Johnson

What is the size of your studio
Is it part of the house structure
If it is not part of the house structure -- what type of structure is
used for the studio?
Elizabeth, you sure hit on a sensitive issue for me!

My "loom room" is currently a spare bedroom that is 10.5' by 14'. In it, I have a wall of shelves, plus one bookshelf on an adjacent wall, a 48" 16 H AVL, a filing cabinet and a cone tree. The room is stuffed - I can walk around one side of the loom, assuming I don't leave any boxes or bags of extra stuff on the floor. I have just barely enough room to use the spool rack. I have a Louet Magic Dobby in the corner of our home office downstairs, and a table loom on a stand in the area between the living room and dining room, with my spinning wheel in a corner of the family room.

My family really covets the spare bedroom, though - my DH would like to put a Murphy bed in there for guests, and have a "game" room for the kids. Up until recently, I didn't use the AVL enough to justify the space. For a while, I figured if it didn't sell, that when my oldest son leaves for college in two years, I could confiscate his room, which is much larger than the loom room. But, DH has designs on that room too - he would like to move the weight machine, exercise bike and treadmill in there. (They're in the garage right now.) We've added on to the house once already (for the home office and oldest son's bedroom) and have no more space to build, so adding a studio space onto the house isn't an option.

I'm a software engineer who has worked for several dot com companies. When things were looking rosie and I thought my stock options would be more than bathroom wallpaper, I fantasized about renting studio space somewhere. For several years, everywhere I went, I would eye places and think "wow, that would make a great studio." My fondest wish was to find some property and build a portable building like the schools use in this area. (My youngest son's elementary school has some great permanent "portable" buildings that would make a perfect studio.) Unfortunately, I discovered that one of those would cost a minimum of about $25,000, and since I live in southern CA, the property to put it on would be exhorbitant. This also means that even renting studio space would be prohibitively expensive for someone like me - basically a hobby weaver.

I've tried using some space at a friend's house - I currently have a Baby Wolf rented from my guild and my horizontal warping reel in a friend's weaving loft. It's nice, and fun to weave with someone else, but...... it's a pain to have to drive 20-30 minutes to get there when I want to weave, and it's an upstairs loft with no AC. The fans helps some, but it can still get uncomfortably warm. I'm sure it will be better in the fall, but I'm still glad I didn't move the AVL over there.

So for now, I move stuff out of the way in the loom room when I want to use the AVL, and then put it back when I'm done. I've put the Louet up for sale too - as wonderful as those 24 shafts are, it's really more like a table loom - good for experimenting but not for any heavy, long term use.

What would my ideal situation be? To have my fiber books and yarns and a small loom and a reading chair on one side of the spare bedroom. And to have a studio space somewhere close by, not more than a 10 minute drive away. Or to live somewhere that you can afford to have enough property that you could build a studio in the back yard. And I'd like to keep the AVL and the Louet and maybe add a Megado loom to the collection.

But the reality is....the stock options *are* wallpaper and I don't live in a place where I can afford an outside studio. So I keep dreaming and scheming. :-) And everywhere I go, I subconsciously evaluate the spaces I see as to how good a weaving studio they would make.


Re: My studio

Joyce Schwartz <joyces@...>

When we built the addition on our house I had only one 40" Norwood 8S loom. Our bedroom was built on the footprint of the 2-car garage--lots of room for our bed, my loom, floor-to-ceiling shelves on two walls for yarn storage and carefully placed spotlights in the 18 foot ceiling. It worked great for a few years, then I bought a 45" 16S computer-dobby Leclerc Colonial II. The Norwood has been moved over to the window between the French doors and the fireplace, the Colonial is in the place of honor with the lighting just right, and the computer is on a yarn storage box by the loom. The Norwood is lit by natural light and by a floor lamp on gloomy days. The yard storage has spilled over into an upstairs bedroom and there is a table loom on the dining room table and an inkle loom next to my chair in the living room. The sewing machine is stored under the TV in the breakfast room where it can be set up in a minute, as soon as we have finished eating. We certainly didn't plan for my weaving to take over the house, but you all know how it is.
Incidentally, the screened porch has made a wonderful dye studio--no worries about breathing in little particles of dye. I think the only room that hasn't been affected by weaving is the kitchen--but then, there are all those handwoven dishtowels and placemats.
The only advice I would add to those who have written about electrical outlet and phone jack placements is to think long and hard about yarn storage. I loved the idea of having all my yarn out where I could look at it and get inspired by the colors. The moths liked it, too. They had easy access and I lost a lot of lovely yarns I was saving for just the right project.

Two things

paulroconnor <paulroconnor@...>

1. What am I weaving? been working on "Squaring the Square" for a couple
of months to resolve the many problems encountered and have moved into my
Mondrian mode. After years of loom controlled weaving, almost all of my
weaving requires pickup techniques. For the "squares" I have to make my
loom behave as though it had 52 shafts. For further details cstch my
seminar at Complex Weavers next August.

2. My studio is half of our guest bedroom in a condo (we don't exactly
encourage visitors!). One loom: a 48" 24 shaft compudobby with none of
the fancy bells and whistles but perfect for me. One cupboard for
storage,a bookcase and two computer desks that I searched long and hard for
to fit in the space next to the loom and a glass patio door. All this is
possible because I use only # 30 embroidery mercerized cotton that I can
buy locally at a sewing machine etc store in Minneapolis. From Madeira
really. I have 30-40 cones over a full color range that each hold 6000
yards so my storage problem is quite manageable. My days of wools and
silks and linens are behind me as well as any dyeing projects. EXCEPT the
Textile Center in the Twin Cities will soon be opening its new building
(really an old building used as a car salesroom, great space). Primary
purpose is to provide a venue for all the groups interested in textiles to
have a common home. The MN Weavers' Guild moves there next month.
Included will be a great dye lab.

My first message since the transfer to Yahoo. Let's see if it gets sent.
Paul O'Connor who apparently is being cloned at this very moment in Tucson

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