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Re: AVL adjustment

Ruth Blau <ruthblau@...>
 

Is the shortening of the spring chain a usual circumstance, in order to
draw down a shaft to a correct level?
Yes. There are three adjustments (that I know of--perhaps there are more) that you can make on an AVL to change the shed: raise or lower the beater itself, mess around with the turnbuckle, and change the length of the chains. Keep in mind that as you shorten the chains, you'll increase the leg power needed to lift the shafts. However, all my shafts are on a link that is anywhere from one to about four shorter than the end link.

Ruth


AVL adjustment

Addicks <gaddicks@...>
 

Is the shortening of the spring chain a usual circumstance, in order to draw down a shaft to a correct level? The shed has nearly disappeared. I have lessened the tension and checked the turnbuckle, trying a multiple of positions for the two screws, to no avail. Suggestions, please, and thanks,
Alison Addicks


Re: Weaving software

Judie Eatough
 

Judie,
After I follow your instructions, I still need to retype the treadling
sequence to 1,4,3,2? <<

It should rearrange the treadling also. I have put a picture in the
Photos area of Yahoo, Album > Drafting Tips. The draft on the left is
in the start, the draft on the left has the treadles rearranged.

I hope that helps.

Judie


Re: Digest Number 186

Ingrid Boesel <ingrid@...>
 

Hi Everyone:

I can second Sally's comment about the incredible amount of work that goes into updating software to run on different operating systems.

We do not get rich by developing software; we do it because we want to have this software to use ourselves and it does help us buy nice toys. Not Ferrari's or Jacquard looms though!!!
Ingrid Boesel, the weaving half of Fiberworks PCW

Visit us at: http://www.fiberworks-pcw.com
Email: ingrid@fiberworks-pcw.com


Re: Weaving software

Robin Burk <studio@...>
 

<< 2. Last month I purchased Norton's anti-virus program. When the
maintenance period expires, I can purchase yearly upgrades at a lower
price than the base program.

McAfee (the competition) offers upgrades to their customers *and* to
Norton users. If I want to switch over to McAfee next year, they'll
give me a trade-in so I only have to pay for the upgrade, not the
base program. >>

In my experience, these sorts of incentives can only be afforded by
companies who are targetting mass-market software, at the one end, or VERY
occasionally by high end corporate software sales at the other end. The
former companies gain so much by adding new customers that they are
willing/able to swallow the loss of revenue that first year; the latter
companies are often in need of "reference accounts", i.e. companies that can
say they have used the $250,000-1,000,000 software package and like it.

Weaving software, for better or worse ;-), doesn't fall into either category
....

Robin, ex-executive in several software companies


Re: weaving software

Judie Eatough
 

Please can you give me the web site for winweave.

This one worked for me today

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/bdkeister/winweave.html

Judie


weaving softwear

quillan_weaver <quillan_weaver@...>
 

Please can you give me the web site for winweave.

Everyone seems to be useing it. I would like to take a look at it
myself.

Many thanks
Alison


ADMIN: giving out email addresses on WeaveTech

Ruth Blau <ruthblau@...>
 

Recently someone asked for a particular person's email address. The address was posted at least once and perhaps twice to WeaveTech. I think this is not fair to the person whose address is being disseminated far & wide. If someone asks for an address, please reply to that person privately. If you must post to the list, please write to the person whose address it is first and ask if he or she is willing to have the address posted to 650 strangers worldwide.

Ruth
co-admin, WeaveTech


Re: Assistance please

Yehudit Abrahams <gabraham@...>
 

Here's Judy's address if you haven't received it yet:
judydominic@fuse.net


Re: Weaving software

jyang949 <jyang949@...>
 

Judie,
After I follow your instructions, I still need to retype the treadling sequence to 1,4,3,2?

Janet


Re: Weaving software

Judie Eatough
 

you put the treadles in the order you want them in the
treadling, then re-analyze the tieup. In Fiberworks you do this by
going from tie-up to liftplan and back to tie-up.
Judie,
Could you explain further? I couldn't get it to work in the demo.
----------
Suppose your treadles are 1-2; 2-3; 3-4; 1-4.
And you want them to be 1-2; 3-4; 1-4; 2-3.

With the draft on the screen, and in tie-up mode, insert 4 or more picks
at the beginning of the weft. Enter the following treadling for the
first 4 picks -- treadle 1, treadle 3, treadle, 4, and finally treadle
2. This is the order that you want the new tie-up. Now go to Tieup >
Shafts and Treadles > Liftplan > OK and then Tieup > Shafts and Treadles
pick a number of treadles 4 or 6 will work > OK. The tieup is now
rearranged in the order you want. It works because when changing to
tieup mode from liftplan mode the draft is analyzed from top to bottom
for treadling and treadles are assigned in the order they appear in the
draft.

Judie


Re: Weaving software

jyang949 <jyang949@...>
 

You're supposed to choose the software that has the features you
want. What if you don't *know* what you want, because you--I--have
been weaving for only a few years?

The various programs have features totally unfamiliar to me, so I
haven't been able to compile and prioritze a "want" list, let alone compare how the different programs handle them. Several listmembers have posted evaluations of programs--it went over my head. Okay, it is my responsibility to educate myself, but until then the programs will be rather intimidating black boxes with a big ? on one side--and a $ on the other!

My situation: An 8-shaft loom and no budget for a fancier
one--although I would love to do complex weaves. If you have an
opinion on what I ought to buy and can explain it to a relative
novice, please contact this novice off-list.

Suggestions to developers:
1. Consumers are creatures of habit. If I had to make a purchase
decision today, it would be Fiberworks PCW because they made it easy
for me to become familiar with it: They provide a (nearly)
full-featured demo program that *doesn't* have annoying reminders
("Your trial period is nearly over, Cheapskate!").

2. Last month I purchased Norton's anti-virus program. When the
maintenance period expires, I can purchase yearly upgrades at a lower
price than the base program.

McAfee (the competition) offers upgrades to their customers *and* to
Norton users. If I want to switch over to McAfee next year, they'll
give me a trade-in so I only have to pay for the upgrade, not the
base program.

Do any of the weaving programs have similar trade-in offers, to
encourage consumers to switch?

Janet


Re: winweave printing

KarenInTheWoods <pfundt@...>
 

Hi..

I have the older version of Winweave that I have successfully sent as
attachement to sister in law... There are about ten giles.. including the
help files. Then she just copied them into a file in her Window's Explorer
tool and sent the icon to her desktop. It works. I will attach and send
to anyone if they wish to email me privately. I have Norton's and update
weekly..sometimes bi-weekly.

As for printing more than ten lines... I happen to recall when using
winweave (mine is the older 1.0 version from Sept. 1995) that you need to
tell the puter HOW much you want to print of the draft.. There is box of
pixels you need to chose the size of. I know it can print much more than
ten lines, as I have printed out the whole Lee's Surrender coverlet on
multiple pages. And others. What I like to use the program for is
figuring out borders on overshot, or how many repeats to a pattern can fit
the width of my loom... or to know what I am looking at before warping up.

This is copied and pasted from the Help Section of the Winweave I have:

*******************************
Printing

You can print your design in three different ways.

To print the pattern, or a section of the pattern, use the scroll bars if
necessary so that the upper right-hand corner of the pattern window
represents the upper right-hand corner of the printout you want, select the
Print Pattern option from the File menu. A dialog box will appear, from
which you can select the size of the pattern threads in pixels. That is,
8x8 means that each square of the printout measures 8 pixels on a side.
You can choose the size in multiples of two from 8x8 to 64x64. Your
specific choice will depend upon the resolution of your printer, so you
will want to experiment first. In any session of WinWeave, the default
value of the thread square size will be that of your previous selection,
but you can still change it each time.

To print the drafts and the tieup only, select the Print Tieup+Drafts
option from the File menu. It is useful for having a threading template
when threading the loom, or a treadling template when weaving.

To print the drawdown, select the Print Drawdown option from the File menu.
The drawdown print consists of the threading and treadling drafts and the
tieup, alongside the pattern. If necessary, several pages will be used to
cover the threading and treadling drafts. Each page of the printout covers
approximately 36 warp ends 55 weft ends. For example, a drawdown with 50
warp ends and 150 weft ends would require 2x3=6 pages.

The total number of pages to be printed for any print request is displayed
in a dialog box while the print is being formatted. If you decide that you
don't want to print that many pages, or otherwise don't wish to print at
the moment, just click the Cancel button.

For prints of the pattern or the drawdown, the style of the printout
depends upon your choice of View options, including Interlace vs
Color+Weave as well as the color rendering options.
*************************************

Hope that helps any of you folks fiddling with the program.

Maybe someday I too can afford the larger more versatile versions, but for
now this is all my budget allows. More money for weaving then!




-..-...(`'.(`'..').')...-..-.
`..`. KarenInTheWoods ..``. .`
`(.'(.'`'.)`'.)`



(try these links for weaving and family pics)
http://www.KarenInTheWoods.eboard.com
http://KarenInTheWoods.eboard.com


Re: Weaving software

jyang949 <jyang949@...>
 

you put the treadles in the order you want them in the
treadling, then re-analyze the tieup. In Fiberworks you do this by
going from tie-up to liftplan and back to tie-up.
Judie,
Could you explain further? I couldn't get it to work in the demo.

Janet


Re: Weaving software

MartyCP@...
 

Wonder if there is a way to do this in swiftweave? I believe this refers to
setting up the treadles for "walking" the treadles rather than straight
1-2-3-4-5-6-etc. Instead it would be 1-3-5etc and 2-4-6etc.

Marty

In a message dated 1/26/02 12:24:18 PM, jyang949@home.com writes:

<< > you put the treadles in the order you want them in the
treadling, then re-analyze the tieup. In Fiberworks you do this by
going from tie-up to liftplan and back to tie-up.
Judie,
Could you explain further? I couldn't get it to work in the demo.

Janet
>>


Weaving Software....

Bill Koepp <bgkoe@...>
 

WinWeave is an excellent freeware program. If it prints for you -
great. It will depend on which printer and or windows version you have.
I'm not sure if this fits into the thread, but I have good results printing
from any software using the screen shot method; I snap a picture of the
screen using the keyboard shortcut, then print out that picture. Works slick
even with demo software that's purposely limited. A nice way to save a draft
if one is just trying out a demo; my everyday weave software is Weavemaker
One, it does a good job.

-- Happy Shuttling ! Bill Koepp in Central California


Re: winweave

Judie Eatough
 

WinWeave is an excellent freeware program. If it prints for you -
great. It will depend on which printer and or windows version you have.
If it will not print, using Paint (which came with your Windows program)
and screen print will get you nice output. So the program is very useful
even using WindowsXP.

My bias is that I love computers -- and used them long before I learned
to weave. I am a consumer and not a seller. I do use several weaving
software programs. So for what it is worth -- some thoughts.

No one is getting rich from weaving software -- the market is so small.
The hours that it takes to get a program running are in the thousands.
The programs are not done as a good way to make money in your spare
time. I am impressed that there are so many good programs out there.
And the single thing that impresses me the most is the Wif file. The
weaving software people got together and did a common file format. It
is wonderful!

I think you will know when you want to make the change from WinWeave to
a program with more bells and whistles. It is like going from a frame
loom to a floor loom.

As for something in between -- I doubt it. I have been campaigning for
a son to write a conversion utility to go from wif files back to
WinWeave files. That would be a nice utility that I could use with my
University students who want to design at home. While we have two full
featured programs in the weaving lab, they can not use them at home --
WinWeave, they could. So we will see, he likes little programming
challenges -- see WeaveConvert http://www.eatough.net/weaveconvert/ if
you are still using DOS versions of Fiberworks or Patternland. But he
also has a life. <gg>

Judie


Re: Ars Textrina

Anita Bell <anitabell@...>
 

The address inside Ars Textrina is:-
Charles Babbage Research Centre,
P.O Box 272, St Norbert Postal Station,
Winnipeg,
Manitoba,
Canada,
R3V 1L6<<


That is the address given in the Ars Textrina books however I recall getting
a letter sometime last year saying Ars Textrina was moving to England.
Haven't heard a thing since then, suppose once you write to the address
above they will be able to give you the correct information. Please post it
if it is in England.

Anita Bell


winweave

Nancy T Slutsky <nslutsky@...>
 

I can get winweave to print, although the colors are funny since I replaced
my HP printer with a lexmark. I have windows 95 on this computer, but it
worked the same for windows 98 on another one.. printing
works better if you click on something on the toolbar during printing, for
some reason. I never try 'printer setup' as this will result in a crash and
loss of all my work. (I have also learned to save before printing each time)

Sure I would love a wonderful program and that is on my wish list, (after
Bress's Weaving Book which will be my probable indulgence when my bithday
rolls around.) but for now I use winweave for the following reasons.

1. I can use it to check a pattern before putting it on the loom, to try
changes and to experiment with treadle and tie up changes. It will print and
that is necessary to me, because I stick the diagram to the loom castle.

2. I find at my stage in weaving, 'creating' patterns by computer seems to
shortcut the thinking part of my brain. I do better sitting there with
paper first and just using the program for checking.

3. I keep thinking this old computer will die soon and we will upgrade.

I am sure the programs for sale are better, and do lots more, but the
$100-$200+
just doesnt seem to be laying around waiting to be spent. I have no idea of
the economics (so please no flames) but I would be interested in an
inexpensive real barebones
program like winweave that prints and could be upgraded as I might wish.
Nancy


Re: j-made 12 shaft loom

Ruth Blau <ruthblau@...>
 

Joanne wrote (about a 12-shaft, 30" loom):

I imagine that the treadles have to be close together with so many in such a
narrow loom.
I have a 32", 12-shaft, 14-treadle Macomber. I cannot treadle it with shoes on (and my feet aren't all that big), but there are times (e.g., certain skeleton tieups when you must use two or even three treadles at a time) when narrow, rather close treadles are an advantage. However, I'm not sure I'd want this situation as my only loom.

Ruth