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Wire Clips for Connecting point and closure rails?


Brian Eiland
 

I'm thinking if I subsequently have a problem in the long term, perhaps the simply solution is to just drop in some wire clips like this between the closure rails and the main track, OR perhaps configure that wire clip such that it touches both the closure rail and the point rail with its free arm.

https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/37935?page=3#comment-440945


Brian Eiland
 

I was doing a little re-analyzing this morning about my 'wire clip' idea. Yes, it does do the job of extra energizing those point and closure rails, BUT it also defeats the idea of providing that insulafrog of its total non-shorting potential. Alan's 'Option One' also defeats the frog shorting problem that might occur with wide flat wheels on the frog, as the two tracks are opposite polarity when wired that way.

The whole idea of either insulating (or cutting gaps in) both of those inner rails leaving the frog is to let the frog joint ONLY assume one track polarity at any one time. The act of isolating those existing frog tracks from the subsequent follow-on trackage means they can only get power from the proceeding closure rails. And ideally we only want a single polarity at any one time. And that takes us back to those damn little connecting tabs on the point rails. How do we make these more reliable over a long period of time??

Could there be a third option?

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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:04 PM Brian Eiland via groups.io <railandsail=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm thinking if I subsequently have a problem in the long term, perhaps the simply solution is to just drop in some wire clips like this between the closure rails and the main track, OR perhaps configure that wire clip such that it touches both the closure rail and the point rail with its free arm.

https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/37935?page=3#comment-440945


Brian Eiland
 

Accidents, Turnouts thrown against Us

So, if it is truly necessary to cut those rails after the frog. Where is the best place? If I do no cuts, but just put insulators between those rails and the flex track they are attached to. Would that be sufficient? I see it mentioned about loco length. But with locos being anywhere from 8" to over 12" that isn't an easy decision. Also, I see where some have cut the rails almost right after the frog and others cut a foot away. ? So I'm confused.
Morgan

John Garaty has addressed this issue before, and if i recall properly has suggested that these insulated lengths could be quite a bit longer RATHER than up close to the frog of the turnout,...maybe a loco length away.

At first I was asking myself why? But I think I now have a reason to give this higher considerations. One problem that most all of us have had is accidentally entering a turnout that is thrown against us !! And this could be more problematic with DCC tracks as the shorts can be more devastating. If we had the single polarity frog tracks recommended by the twin insulators suggested by the Insulfrog solution,.... then our train would encounter a dead track situation about a foot away from that turnout that was thrown against us.