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Re: Custom length RJ cables

Ross Kudlick
 

George,

 

If you can work with “standard” lengths (and coild the excess up under the layout), Monoprice.com sells pre-made cables in 7; 14 and 25 foot lengths at very reasonable prices:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=RJ12

 

Regards,

 

Ross Kudlick

 

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of george hohon3
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:26 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 




Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George

Re: Custom length RJ cables

john
 

Hey George,
   Cables are nothing but expensive, buy a reasonably priced compression tool from your local Lowe's, Home Depot, etc., order a length of 6 conductor flat cable (8 conductor if you need both and clip two wires), and make your own. It is easy and fun for everyone. If you don't need much cable buy a premade cord, cut it to the length you need and put new ends on the pieces.
   Just a bit more information, when my club started with DCC we used twisted pair telephone wire and we still use it on our portable layout and it works fine. We only moved up to "flat" cable when we started multiple access points, PM 42's, radios, and such. I am not sure if it makes any difference but why risk it.
   Bottom line, it is nice to have the parts and materials around when there is an accident, cords are tough but not all that tough.
Good luck,
john

From: george hohon3
To: "WiringForDCC@..."
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:26 PM
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables



Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George




Re: Custom length RJ cables

Charles Zak
 

Try Micro Center.com

Charles K. Zak
P42Hogger@...

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Charles Zak
 

Ok I will try this again Microcenter.com

Charles K. Zak
P42Hogger@...

Re: Custom length RJ cables

shadowrunner521
 

Russ:

Will these cables work for Digitrax?  If so, which is the right one to order?  Tkz.

Bernie

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: Ross Kudlick <ross.kudlick@...>
To:
WiringForDCC@...
Sent:
Sun, Jan 5, 2014 19:29:53 GMT+00:00
Subject:
RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

George,

 

If you can work with “standard” lengths (and coild the excess up under the layout), Monoprice.com sells pre-made cables in 7; 14 and 25 foot lengths at very reasonable prices:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=RJ12

 

Regards,

 

Ross Kudlick

 

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of george hohon3
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:26 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 




Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Carl
 

Hi Gang:

I like to use coiled cords for the cabs to keep from stepping on them:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/AT-C-26-6%2F6%2FB-14%2FR-R/A2662R-14C-ND/1972593

You do need a female to female connector. I haven't found a male to female cord.

Carl.

On 1/5/2014 4:02 PM, shadowrunner521@... wrote:
 
Russ:

Will these cables work for Digitrax?  If so, which is the right one to order?  Tkz.

Bernie

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Ross Kudlick
 

Bernie,

 

Yes – they will work with Digitrax.  Order the “Straight” cables; they are wired Pin 1 – Pin 1. 

 

Regards,

 

Ross

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of shadowrunner521@...
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:03 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 




Russ:

Will these cables work for Digitrax?  If so, which is the right one to order?  Tkz.

Bernie

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Ross Kudlick <ross.kudlick@...>
To:
WiringForDCC@...
Sent:
Sun, Jan 5, 2014 19:29:53 GMT+00:00
Subject:
RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

George,

 

If you can work with “standard” lengths (and coild the excess up under the layout), Monoprice.com sells pre-made cables in 7; 14 and 25 foot lengths at very reasonable prices:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=RJ12

 

Regards,

 

Ross Kudlick

Re: Custom length RJ cables

shadowrunner521
 

Russ:

Thanks much, appreciate your reply.

Bernie

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: Ross Kudlick <ross.kudlick@...>
To:
WiringForDCC@...
Sent:
Sun, Jan 5, 2014 21:52:20 GMT+00:00
Subject:
RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

Bernie,

 

Yes – they will work with Digitrax.  Order the “Straight” cables; they are wired Pin 1 – Pin 1. 

 

Regards,

 

Ross

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of shadowrunner521@...
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:03 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 




Russ:

Will these cables work for Digitrax?  If so, which is the right one to order?  Tkz.

Bernie

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Ross Kudlick <ross.kudlick@...>
To:
WiringForDCC@...
Sent:
Sun, Jan 5, 2014 19:29:53 GMT+00:00
Subject:
RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

George,

 

If you can work with “standard” lengths (and coild the excess up under the layout), Monoprice.com sells pre-made cables in 7; 14 and 25 foot lengths at very reasonable prices:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=RJ12

 

Regards,

 

Ross Kudlick

Re: Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

asychis@...
 

I think your best bet is to use the white wire for both headlights.
Hi Mark,
 
Thanks for the great answer, even if it isn't what I wanted to read.  I can use the white wire for both headlights, but then I can't do the Marrs function on the top light.  Guess it isn't a real big deal, kind of frustrating however.  It is interesting that if you set CV29 to reverse the direction a locomotive runs, you do have to set CV49 and CV50 to their opposite number; 2 and 1, respectively to get the lights to work.
 
I wonder if the polarity of the brown and green wires on this decoder are constant?  I take it they could be checked by activating the sound without the speaker installed?
 
Thanks again,
 
Jerry Michels 

Re: Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

Paul O
 

Jerry, did you just re-post your original message from 12:16 PM or did Yahoo do it?

Did you see my comment about CV33?

Paul O

--- In WiringForDCC@..., asychis@... wrote:

Hi Folks,

I am setting up two Lifelike ALCO PA's using Soundtraxx DSD-101LC, ALCO
version. The majority of the installation has gone smoothly. I checked the
motors and they don't seem to have the high stall current that plagued early
production runs. Curiously, there are two headlights in upper and lower
casings, but different lamps. The upper headlight is a 12 volt lamp with
three wires, and what seems to be two filaments. I have wired these to turn
on together and configured them to be a Marrs light. Works just fine. The
lower headlight is a 1 1/2 volt lamp, and works fine with a 220 ohm
resistor on the yellow lead.

The decoder is pretty simple, without additional effects leads, just the
standard seven wires plus a green and brown wire for the speaker connection.
Since there are no "auxiliary" lighting leads, I want to use the yellow
"rear" light lead as my headlight in the lower casing, and the white
headlight lead to run the Marrs light in the upper casing. I seem to have a
problem with assigning the yellow lead to turn on at the same time as the white
lead, e.g. when the locomotive is running forward. There is no option in
the model for a rear light, so the yellow is free to use.

I thought I could just set CV34 to a value of 1 to operate when the
locomotive moves forward, since its normal value is "2." However this does not
seem to work. The default value of "2" does work, the backup light come on
in reverse, but if I change the value to "1" it does not come on in either
direction.

I have CV29 set to "34", normal direction, 128 speed steps, no analog.
CV50, the backup light configuration has not been changed, it is set to "1."
What am I missing? I have been through the manual several times and have
not read anything that indicates I need to change other CVs.

Also, the decoder comes with a "bipolar" capacitor. It sure looks like a
electrolytic capacitor. It it an electrolytic without the need to be
concerned about polarity? What happens if you use a "polar" electrolytic
capacitor? The latest Tsunami decoders have "polar" electrolytic capacitors for
the speakers. I wonder what the difference is?

Any other tips on this installation?

Thanks!

Jerry Michels

Re: Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

Mark Gurries
 

On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Paul O wrote:

Jerry, you need to set CV33 to a value of 3.

Paul O

This solves the light effect problem IF you were using a normal swingle filament light bulb, which is not the case here, but it does not solve the direction problem.

The LifeLike PA came with their own light effect boards for the Mars light and headlight. The light effect board works with DC or DCC. The Mars light, as Jerry indicated, is a dual filament light bulb. The on-board FX light effect was created by a circuit that toggled/alternated between the two filaments which when viewed through the headlight lens gave the desired moving light effect. To get the alternative light effect, all the one has to do is provide power with no light effect and the onboard circuit would take off.

Personally I removed the light effect boards from my PA's and replace the dual filament bulb with a regular bulb. I used the decoder to create the effect just like you have suggested.

Best Regards,

Mark Gurries
Electrical Engineer
DCC Website & NMRA DCC Clinics: www.markgurries.com

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Glenn
 

You should really need custom length cables, they can be found in lengths starting at 6”. Not all brands carry them in all lengths.

 

The typical electronics supply house will have them in most lengths up to 15’, the in 5’ increments to 25 or 50.

 

Please don’t go to HD or Lowes or RS, they are over priced. You can create your own; however to due the job right you will need a not-so-cheap crimping tool. I have done it with house hold pliers but the success rate is limited.

 

Microcenter, Best BuyL, and CompUSA are good retails stores.

 

Online try

Cablestogo.com - these folks have them in the largest variety and colors as well as accessories.

            http://www.cablestogo.com/category/cat-x/cat6/cat6-snagless-patch-cables

CompUSA – tigerdirect.com

Newegg.com

 

Glenn

 

 


On Behalf Of george hohon3

Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George



Re: Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

Paul O
 

Mark, in Jerry’s original post he said he wired both filaments of the upper bulb together, controlled by the white F0f wire.

He wired the lower single filament bulb to the yellow F0r wire.

 

His problem is getting the yellow F0r wire to be active when in the forward direction; therefore I suggested he map the yellow wire to be active when in forward direction along with the white wire.

 

Paul O

 

From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of Mark Gurries
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:29 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...; Paul O
Subject: Re: [WiringForDCC] Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

 

 

> On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Paul O wrote:
>
> Jerry, you need to set CV33 to a value of 3.
>
> Paul O

This solves the light effect problem IF you were using a normal swingle filament light bulb, which is not the case here, but it does not solve the direction problem.

The LifeLike PA came with their own light effect boards for the Mars light and headlight. The light effect board works with DC or DCC. The Mars light, as Jerry indicated, is a dual filament light bulb. The on-board FX light effect was created by a circuit that toggled/alternated between the two filaments which when viewed through the headlight lens gave the desired moving light effect. To get the alternative light effect, all the one has to do is provide power with no light effect and the onboard circuit would take off.

Personally I removed the light effect boards from my PA's and replace the dual filament bulb with a regular bulb. I used the decoder to create the effect just like you have suggested.

Best Regards,

Mark Gurries
Electrical Engineer
DCC Website & NMRA DCC Clinics: www.markgurries.com

Re: Soundtraxx DSD-101LC CV setup question

Mark Gurries
 


On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Paul O wrote:

His problem is getting the yellow F0r wire to be active when in the forward direction; therefore I suggested he map the yellow wire to be active when in forward direction along with the white wire.

That is the part that does not work per the manual.

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Glenn
 

I meant to say you “should n-o-t’ need custom length cables.

 

Glenn

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 23:12
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: RE: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 




You should really need custom length cables, they can be found in lengths starting at 6”. Not all brands carry them in all lengths.

 

The typical electronics supply house will have them in most lengths up to 15’, the in 5’ increments to 25 or 50.

 

Please don’t go to HD or Lowes or RS, they are over priced. You can create your own; however to due the job right you will need a not-so-cheap crimping tool. I have done it with house hold pliers but the success rate is limited.

 

Microcenter, Best BuyL, and CompUSA are good retails stores.

 

Online try

Cablestogo.com - these folks have them in the largest variety and colors as well as accessories.

            http://www.cablestogo.com/category/cat-x/cat6/cat6-snagless-patch-cables

CompUSA – tigerdirect.com

Newegg.com

 

Glenn

 

 


On Behalf Of george hohon3

Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George




Re: Custom length RJ cables

Ross Kudlick
 

BTW

 

Digitrax introduced a LocoNet Cable product line  in November:

 

 

http://www.digitrax.com/news/2013/11/15/loconet-cable-product-line-added/

 

Regards,

 

Ross Kudlick

 


From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On Behalf Of george hohon3
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:26 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

 

Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system?  Thanks.

George



Re: Custom length RJ cables

mckeevermichael@...
 

George;

I would get the cables from NCE. No concern with crimping, etc. There can be a problem with power/signal loss over too great a distance.

Mac in SoCal, N Scale ATSF, SP, UP,  Transition Era, Barstow Area

Re: Custom length RJ cables

Mark Gurries
 

Digikey carry a full line of RJ cable assemblies. This includes coiled versions. They are relatively inexpensive and high quality.

https://sites.google.com/site/markgurries/home/part-sources/telco-cable-topics/telco-buying-cables




On Behalf Of george hohon3

Subject: [WiringForDCC] Custom length RJ cables

Does anyone know of a supplier that makes custom length RJ cables for connecting UTP panels on a NCE system? Thanks.

George
Best Regards,

Mark Gurries
Electrical Engineer
DCC Website & NMRA DCC Clinics: www.markgurries.com

tortoise switch machines vs peco point motors

Oscar Ahumada
 

 hi i wantaed to know the pros and cons of tortoise switch machines vs peco point motors ( besides price and i know that that you have to buy a separate acc switch for peco motor) 
cheers  Oscar

Australia 

Re: tortoise switch machines vs peco point motors

Carl
 

Hello Oscar:

I've used Peco motors on HO turnouts. We mounted them under the track and it takes a big hole in your table. We also use them with Peco track so the mounting holes were there and also the toggle spring. They worked fine, but we wanted slow motion motors and later built our own for $6 each. The usual Tortoise mount also requires a large hole for the swinging wire. Our motor use a torque wire so only require a small hole.

I don't know how many you need, but we needed a total of 150. So if mounting and controlling a Tortoise is $20 each we had a $3000 budget. I bought a small lathe / mill machine to make the parts. So not counting the machine the purchased parts came to $900 including the controls. Here are photos:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WiringForDCC/photos/albums/1143000264/lightbox/114161968

The real trick is to find a low price on the gear motors. These were automotive vent control motor, surplussed at $3 each. When I purchased them the company had 6000 units, all gone now.

Good luck, Carl.