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Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

John Heaps
 

Hi Greg,

Thanks for uploading the files.

Not sure whether it will help in my situation without some adaptation, which is probably beyond me.

I will have either DCC or DC on the bus at a time, not both.


Thanks again &  cheers,

John Heaps,

Vic, Australia.


On 6/12/2019 1:47 am, Greg Harter wrote:
I uploaded the two DC/DCC files after creating a location called DC/DCC.  

BTW, I do think this is involved with wiring for DCC--to accommodate DC, for what it's worth.

Greg Harter
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Blair & Rasa
 

if that comment was in response to my "nothing to do with DCC" comment, I was talking about the history of attachments, NOT your discussion of DC/DCC. Just to be clear. That was why I rephrased the subject line.
Blair

On 2019-12-05 9:47, Greg Harter wrote:
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BTW, I do think this is involved with wiring for DCC--to accommodate DC, for what it's worth.
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Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Greg Harter
 

I uploaded the two DC/DCC files after creating a location called DC/DCC.  

BTW, I do think this is involved with wiring for DCC--to accommodate DC, for what it's worth.

Greg Harter
New files uploaded to w4dccqa@groups.io

w4dccqa@groups.io Notification <w4dccqa+notification@...>
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that the following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the w4dccqa@groups.io group.

Uploaded By: Greg Harter <greg1462@...>

Description:
here are the component lists and descriptions of how the DC/DCC detector boards work. We have several of these operating on our club layout.

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team
Frog juicer as auto reverser with staggered pickup locomotives

Tom in Texas
 

Is there an installation trick I could use to get the device to work with brass steam locomotives?

Tom in Texas 
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

David McBrayer
 

Greg,
Following on your reply and the message posted this morning from Blair & Rasa.

Since your files are not of an image filetype, I suggest you use the procedure I suggested in the ‘Photos’ tab but now in the ‘Files’ tab. Within your named folder under the ‘Files’ tab you may include a mix of image and document filetypes as well as ‘*.zip’ files, should you so choose. Then post to this group a message announcing you have done the above and include a link to the folder that others may benefit.

—Dave

On Dec 4, 2019, at 05:41, Greg Harter <greg1462@...> wrote:
to David McBrayer; Thanks for your detailed instructions. I don't have photos, only wiring schematics, component lists, and diagrams. The process you described will not allow anything but photos.

What can I do to get this information out to the DCC group?

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,
Greg Harter
--
Dave McBrayer
Castro Valley, CA
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Blair & Rasa
 

Greg

If you're logged into groups.io, you should be able to open the files folder at the w4dccqa group.  This link should get you there:

https://groups.io/g/w4dccqa/files

When you're on the group home page, the files portion appears as a link on the left hand side of the page, right below photos.

Blair
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Brian Lewis
 

I sigh every time I see this - it happens quite regularly.  This is the only group of which I am a member, that does not allow attachments. Is there any good reason for this?

On 03/12/2019 13:34, Greg Harter wrote:
DC/DCC detectors to permit layouts to run both:

apparently I don't know how to do this.  My note to the group went through, but not the schematics, etc.
Can somebody help me with this?

Greg Harter
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Regards and thanks

 

Brian Lewis
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Greg Harter
 

to David McBrayer;  Thanks for your detailed instructions.  I don't have photos, only wiring schematics, component lists, and diagrams.  The process you described will not allow anything but photos.  

What can I do to get this information out to the DCC group?

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Greg Harter
Re: Disrict Buss

Daniel Brewer
 

I would use 12 AWG wire from your NCE Power Panel Track Out to a terminal block with 4 red and 4 black terminals (black in back is how I wire my track, your choice). 14 AWG will work if run is short. I use black and red zip wire from Audiopipe.
 
Then run 14 AWG wire from the terminal block to each of two circuit breakers (in your case). From the circuit breakers, run 14 AWG wire  to each power district (attached feeders from the track to these wires - I use 22 AWG feeders). That gives you two power districts, each protected by a circuit breaker.
 
I hope this helps, Dan
Please let me know if anyone thinks I'm bonkers  ;0)

Products I used are below:
 
 
 
I used spade connectors to connect wire to terminal blocks. I used NCE EB1 circuit breakers.
Re: Disrict Buss

Paul O
 

Ewoodley (first name please)
Use two circuit breakers (or boosters).
Connect the cab bus to both breakers.
Connect the output of each breaker to its own bus. 

Paul O

On Dec 3, 2019, at 4:40 PM, ewoodley@... wrote:

I am breaking my layout into two districts. 
There is two question that actually never gets answered or if it does they don't use my lingo, or it just flies over my pee wee brain. Here goes the question. If you break your layout into districts do you need to run a separate buss wire for that district? 

I am using a NCE starter set with the power cab. It puts out two amps max. However there is only one slot to tie in your buss wire. So the second question would be (if the answer is yes, you need another buss for another district) where does the other buss wire get tied inn. 

My layout is a 10 x 10 with hopes to increase the size. At this point only running two locomotives. 

Disrict Buss

ewoodley@...
 

I am breaking my layout into two districts. 
There is two question that actually never gets answered or if it does they don't use my lingo, or it just flies over my pee wee brain. Here goes the question. If you break your layout into districts do you need to run a separate buss wire for that district? 

I am using a NCE starter set with the power cab. It puts out two amps max. However there is only one slot to tie in your buss wire. So the second question would be (if the answer is yes, you need another buss for another district) where does the other buss wire get tied inn. 

My layout is a 10 x 10 with hopes to increase the size. At this point only running two locomotives. 
Re: Disrict Buss

thomasmclae
 

You need one booster for each district.
Most boosters can be used be any command station, but check before buying.
Typically, the command station goes direct to boosters, not track.
Easiest way to do this is to feed the command station to a terminal strip with spade lugs. Then each booster connects to that terminal strip. For that small a layout, 18 Gauge should be fine as bus wire to booster.
NO connection between districts that does not go through 2 boosters. Completely separate wiring, including bus wires.
So, Power Cab to booster #1, to district 1, Cab to booster #2 to district 2.
Thomas
DeSoto, TX
Re: Disrict Buss

Carl
 

Hi:

I have 10 districts powered by 6 Digitrax boosters. They didn't play nice until I totally isolated each district. I don't know what is "code" but this has worked for me. Plus the totally isolated districts make trouble shooting easier. Plus all lines to the rails are protected by circuit breakers, that do trip when needed.

Carl.

On 12/2/2019 7:06 PM, ewoodley@... wrote:
I am breaking my layout into two districts. 
There is two question that actually never gets answered or if it does they don't use my lingo, or it just flies over my pee wee brain. Here goes the question. If you break your layout into districts do you need to run a separate buss wire for that district? 

I am using a NCE starter set with the power cab. It puts out two amps max. However there is only one slot to tie in your buss wire. So the second question would be (if the answer is yes, you need another buss for another district) where does the other buss wire get tied inn. 

My layout is a 10 x 10 with hopes to increase the size. At this point only running two locomotives. 

Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

David McBrayer
 


Greg,
To get your schematics and other images into the Group you will need to create a folder and then upload to your new folder.

How: click on the “View/Reply Online” item below. Then select “Photos” on the left side of the screen; create a folder with a short descriptive name - your first and last name, or project name will suffice. Upload your images and schematics into the folder. Then post a message stating you’ve done this and the name of your folder.

Cheers,
Dave

On Dec 3, 2019, at 05:34, Greg Harter <greg1462@...> wrote:
DC/DCC detectors to permit layouts to run both:
apparently I don't know how to do this. My note to the group went through, but not the schematics, etc.
Can somebody help me with this?

Greg Harter
--
Dave McBrayer
Castro Valley, CA
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Blair & Rasa
 

Greg

I think this list is set up to strip attachments, a la classic email lists.  There are other options with Groups.io, but it's up to the list owner to explore those.

For now, go to the list website (link at bottom of email), and add your files in the files section, with a folder name that's appropriate and descriptive.

Good luck!

Blair


On 12/3/2019 8:34 AM, Greg Harter wrote:
DC/DCC detectors to permit layouts to run both:

apparently I don't know how to do this.  My note to the group went through, but not the schematics, etc.
Can somebody help me with this?

Greg Harter
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Greg Harter
 

DC/DCC detectors to permit layouts to run both:

apparently I don't know how to do this.  My note to the group went through, but not the schematics, etc.
Can somebody help me with this?

Greg Harter
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Greg Harter
 

oops, forgot the other diagram.
Re: DCC/DC and Dual Frof Juicer as Auto Reverser.

Greg Harter
 

here is the schematic, a components listthe description, a picture, hope this is all you need!
Re: Disrict Buss

vincent marino
 

My brother I use NCE (15amps) and have 6 districts. Each district has its own buss line tied to a circuit breaker.

 I recommend the following: from the NCE command station track connection go directly to a wire splitter which allows you to send a power supply + and neg - to a circuit breaker for each district. Total 2 circuit breakers. 

 From the circuit breaker send your buss line ( + and - use minimum 14ga wire) out for each power district, make sure you allow for several track drops to each district.  

Hope I helped.  


On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 7:17 PM <ewoodley@...> wrote:
I am breaking my layout into two districts. 
There is two question that actually never gets answered or if it does they don't use my lingo, or it just flies over my pee wee brain. Here goes the question. If you break your layout into districts do you need to run a separate buss wire for that district? 

I am using a NCE starter set with the power cab. It puts out two amps max. However there is only one slot to tie in your buss wire. So the second question would be (if the answer is yes, you need another buss for another district) where does the other buss wire get tied inn. 

My layout is a 10 x 10 with hopes to increase the size. At this point only running two locomotives.