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Decoder Installation: Life-Like proto 2000 e8 decoder wiring

tht626
 

I have a ll p2000 e8 first generation that i am trrying to conver to
dcc. I am installing a mdc 310 decoder. I hard wired it in and
nothing...nodddaaa I double checked my wiring and all okks to be ok.
Is this motor insulated? Do I need to modify the motor? I am at a
lost I have hard wired several locos and haven't had any problems but
this one has me stumped. Any input would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks Bill

Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

Bob Smith <bobcindy.johndeere@...>
 

Allen
I have checked out the Code 80 switches to the diagrams on your website
and they apppear to be just like the one in the first diagram.
So if I'm understanding the diagram right I believe these switches meet
the requirements to be DCC friendly.
I do have a question about the diagram though, refering to the "Power
Routing Switch Mechanically connected to the frog" Is this refering to
the switch machine solenoid? Hey I told you I new to this?
Thank again
Bob

Re: Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

Bob Smith <bobcindy.johndeere@...>
 

Thanks Allen I'll check it out and let you know what I find.

Bob


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "wirefordcc"
<wire4dcc_admin@c...> wrote:

Not a problem. Just go to my site at:
http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm#a1

First, there are diagrams that show a DCC friendly turnout. If
this
is a typical Atlas turnout, the first diagram will apply.

Then I list the featurs that make a DCC friendly turnout.

Then I tell you how to tell that your turnout is not DCC friendly.

You should not have any problem figuring it out for yourself.

I've never seen an Atlas turnout that wasn't DCC friendly. Then
again, I've never seen a code 80 turnout! :-)

Alla

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Bob Smith"
<bobcindy.johndeere@v...> wrote:

Allen
The switch package say's N Code 80 Switch Atlas Item #2701
Standard N
Line.
That's what has me confused! I've read your website about wiring
the
code 83 switches but these are Code 80? And I can't find any
referance
to them anywhere.
Leave it to me to find an odd ball! I got 22 of them!
Any Ideas?
Bob




--- In WiringForDCC@..., "wirefordcc"
<wire4dcc_admin@c...>
wrote:

Bob,

I think you mean code 83. Yes, they are DCC friendly. See my
website
at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_atlas_roco.htm#a1


Allan

Re: Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

wirefordcc <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

Not a problem. Just go to my site at:
http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm#a1

First, there are diagrams that show a DCC friendly turnout. If this
is a typical Atlas turnout, the first diagram will apply.

Then I list the featurs that make a DCC friendly turnout.

Then I tell you how to tell that your turnout is not DCC friendly.

You should not have any problem figuring it out for yourself.

I've never seen an Atlas turnout that wasn't DCC friendly. Then
again, I've never seen a code 80 turnout! :-)

Alla

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Bob Smith"
<bobcindy.johndeere@v...> wrote:

Allen
The switch package say's N Code 80 Switch Atlas Item #2701
Standard N
Line.
That's what has me confused! I've read your website about wiring
the
code 83 switches but these are Code 80? And I can't find any
referance
to them anywhere.
Leave it to me to find an odd ball! I got 22 of them!
Any Ideas?
Bob




--- In WiringForDCC@..., "wirefordcc"
<wire4dcc_admin@c...>
wrote:

Bob,

I think you mean code 83. Yes, they are DCC friendly. See my
website
at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_atlas_roco.htm#a1


Allan

Re: Can't print website

The \ Wiring For DCC\ Guy <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

No kidding. I put the menu on the left because everybody does. But after I
did, I wish I had put it on the right. It definitely makes more sense
there. It wasn't too painful to move. I'll move the others as I have time.

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of Vollrath, Don
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:08 AM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: RE: [WiringForDCC] Re: Can't print website


Thanks Allan.
A perfect out of the box solution!
Now if we could get other websites to follow your example...
DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of wirefordcc
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:11 AM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: Can't print website


I just experimented to with moving the menu bar on the left over to
the right side. For a printed version of my website, you don't really
need that menu bar. It worked and wasn't too painful to move. Check
it out at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/blockdet.htm

Over time, I'll move the others over. If you have specific requests,
please let me know. I'm busy with school and probably won't be moving
a lot of them any time soon.

Allan






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Re: Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

Bob Smith <bobcindy.johndeere@...>
 

Allen
The switch package say's N Code 80 Switch Atlas Item #2701 Standard N
Line.
That's what has me confused! I've read your website about wiring the
code 83 switches but these are Code 80? And I can't find any referance
to them anywhere.
Leave it to me to find an odd ball! I got 22 of them!
Any Ideas?
Bob




--- In WiringForDCC@..., "wirefordcc" <wire4dcc_admin@c...>
wrote:

Bob,

I think you mean code 83. Yes, they are DCC friendly. See my
website
at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_atlas_roco.htm#a1


Allan

Re: Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

wirefordcc <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

Bob,

I think you mean code 83. Yes, they are DCC friendly. See my website
at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_atlas_roco.htm#a1


Allan

Atlas Code 80 Turnouts

Bob Smith <bobcindy.johndeere@...>
 

I think I already know the answer to this question but I hoping I'm
wrong!
Could someone tell me if Atlas Code 80 N-Scale Turnouts are DCC
Friendly?
Thanks Bob Smith

Re: PECO Switch Machines

jchurc2004 <jcebay@...>
 

hi Jim
I am not sure what that unit is but I am using a lenz
transformer which supplies 16v ac at 3amp. Bear in mind you will not
be switching them all at once and the transformer I am using powers
other things as well

John

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "jmscnw" <jmscnw@w...> wrote:

Thanks John.

I'm glad a single power bus can be used for all motors.
Would a DCC type power supply ( MF615 ) handle all motors ?
I do plan on installing the switch machine at the same time
the turnout is installed.

- Jim

All mine are switched by stationary decoders...well most of
them,
I haven't quite finished yet!. The peco point motor is a twin
coil
device requiring only momentary power to throw the point. If you
use
a common wire from each of the two coils and place a momentary or
push button switch in the other two lines then there is no reason
why
you cannot use a power bus to power them all. If you are going
for
the PL10E just be aware that there is a maximum baseboard
thickness
for which these are suitable and you do have to make sure your
3/8
hole is in the right place. Something else to bear in mind is if
you
are going for power routing its a good idea to do this
installation
at the same time as you can use a peco switch that mounts
directly on
top of the twin coil unit.......Hope this helps ....John

Re: Can't print website

Vollrath, Don <dvollrath@...>
 

Thanks Allan.
A perfect out of the box solution!
Now if we could get other websites to follow your example...
DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of wirefordcc
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:11 AM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: Can't print website


I just experimented to with moving the menu bar on the left over to
the right side. For a printed version of my website, you don't really
need that menu bar. It worked and wasn't too painful to move. Check
it out at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/blockdet.htm

Over time, I'll move the others over. If you have specific requests,
please let me know. I'm busy with school and probably won't be moving
a lot of them any time soon.

Allan






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Re: PECO Switch Machines

jmscnw <jmscnw@...>
 

Thanks John.

I'm glad a single power bus can be used for all motors.
Would a DCC type power supply ( MF615 ) handle all motors ?
I do plan on installing the switch machine at the same time
the turnout is installed.

- Jim

All mine are switched by stationary decoders...well most of them,
I haven't quite finished yet!. The peco point motor is a twin coil
device requiring only momentary power to throw the point. If you use
a common wire from each of the two coils and place a momentary or
push button switch in the other two lines then there is no reason why
you cannot use a power bus to power them all. If you are going for
the PL10E just be aware that there is a maximum baseboard thickness
for which these are suitable and you do have to make sure your 3/8
hole is in the right place. Something else to bear in mind is if you
are going for power routing its a good idea to do this installation
at the same time as you can use a peco switch that mounts directly on
top of the twin coil unit.......Hope this helps ....John

Re: PECO Switch Machines

jchurc2004 <jcebay@...>
 

Hi Jim
All mine are switched by stationary decoders...well most of them,
I haven't quite finished yet!. The peco point motor is a twin coil
device requiring only momentary power to throw the point. If you use
a common wire from each of the two coils and place a momentary or
push button switch in the other two lines then there is no reason why
you cannot use a power bus to power them all. If you are going for
the PL10E just be aware that there is a maximum baseboard thickness
for which these are suitable and you do have to make sure your 3/8
hole is in the right place. Something else to bear in mind is if you
are going for power routing its a good idea to do this installation
at the same time as you can use a peco switch that mounts directly on
top of the twin coil unit.......Hope this helps ....John

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "jmscnw" <jmscnw@w...> wrote:

Thanks John.

I will use the PL10E version. Can ALL the switch machines on a
layout be powered together OR does each machine need its own
power supply ?

Jim



hi Jim
I have them installed both above in the fiddle yard and
below in
the scenic area. You will need to decide whether you are going to
attach them directly to the point in which case you need a
realitively
large hole in the base board or mount them on a fixing plate
using
the
extended pin variety PL10E in which case you need only drill a
3/8
hole. They are a little noisy in comparison to a tortoise but
effective.

Regards
John

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Re: PECO Switch Machines

jmscnw <jmscnw@...>
 

Thanks John.

I will use the PL10E version. Can ALL the switch machines on a
layout be powered together OR does each machine need its own
power supply ?

Jim



hi Jim
I have them installed both above in the fiddle yard and
below in
the scenic area. You will need to decide whether you are going to
attach them directly to the point in which case you need a
realitively
large hole in the base board or mount them on a fixing plate using
the
extended pin variety PL10E in which case you need only drill a 3/8
hole. They are a little noisy in comparison to a tortoise but
effective.

Regards
John

Re: PECO Switch Machines

jchurc2004 <jcebay@...>
 

hi Jim
I have them installed both above in the fiddle yard and below in
the scenic area. You will need to decide whether you are going to
attach them directly to the point in which case you need a realitively
large hole in the base board or mount them on a fixing plate using the
extended pin variety PL10E in which case you need only drill a 3/8
hole. They are a little noisy in comparison to a tortoise but effective.

Regards
John

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "jmscnw" <jmscnw@w...> wrote:

Does anyone use HO PECO switch machines mounted beneath their layout ?
They appear quite user friendly for a first time layout .
I would like any pro's or con's .

JIM

Re: DS44

wirefordcc <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

Adamant? No. As always, it's your railroad.

The reason for a separate booster driving your turnouts is that if a
short occurs while the turnout is being thrown, then the turnout
controller will stop moving the points. You will then be stuck with
the short. If you use a separate booster, your track will short, but
the controller will keep moving the points. If the movement of the
points caused the short, the expectation is that the short will clear
as the points move.

If you want to avoid a separate booster, you can use an electronic
circuit breaker (a PM42 or equivelent) GOING TO THE TRACK. That way,
the PM42 briefly shuts down the track, but the booster keeps the
turnouts operating.

PECO Switch Machines

jmscnw <jmscnw@...>
 

Does anyone use HO PECO switch machines mounted beneath their layout ?
They appear quite user friendly for a first time layout .
I would like any pro's or con's .

JIM

Re: reverse loop

Doug Stuard <dstuard@...>
 

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "starvingartist49"
<starvingartist49@g...> wrote:

For example say I am going around a loop and the left rail
changes from positive to negative after an insulated joiner. Doesn't
the decoder adjust for this automatically to keep the locomotive
moving forward?
I guess I don't understand the need for a reverser unit. I
thought this was a feature of the decoder unit.

You are almost right. Once over the joint, the loco will keep going,
except that as the loco crosses the gap, the wheels will bridge the
gap and create a short. What the automatic reverser does is detect
this short and, rather than disconnecting the load as a normal circuit
breaker would, it reverses the phase (polarity) in the loop, right
under the loco. The loco (or more correctly, the decoder) is
oblivious to this, but the short is thus removed and the train
continues forward. The same happens again as the loco exits the
reverse loop if the polarity/phase across the exit gap is again
mismatched.

Note that if there is a REAL short that is not corrected by phase
reversal, you could be in trouble without a actul circuit breaker.
That's why the current detection point in the reversers is less than
the trip point of the booster.

Fw: DS44

Elliott Janofsky <ejanofsky@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elliott Janofsky" <ejanofsky@...>
To: <WiringForDCC@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: DS44


Are you still adamant about wiring DS44 with a separate booster. Would a separate division using a circuit breaker such as the PS1 from TTE do the trick. And what about working it with an SRC8 . Thanks, Elliott
----- Original Message -----

DS44

Elliott Janofsky <ejanofsky@...>
 

Are you still adamant about wiring DS44 with a separate booster. Would a separate division using a circuit breaker such as the PS1 from TTE do the trick. And what about working it with an SRC8 . Thanks, Elliott

----- Original Message -----
From: "wirefordcc" <wire4dcc_admin@...>
To: <WiringForDCC@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: Can't print website


I just experimented to with moving the menu bar on the left over to
the right side. For a printed version of my website, you don't really
need that menu bar. It worked and wasn't too painful to move. Check
it out at: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/blockdet.htm

Over time, I'll move the others over. If you have specific requests,
please let me know. I'm busy with school and probably won't be moving
a lot of them any time soon.

Allan






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