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Re: Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
Tim R may be correct. If there are no rail connections between the right and left parts of the crossing X ... Wire tracks A, B and D together with the upper fixed polarity feed tracks from the
Tim R may be correct. If there are no rail connections between the right and left parts of the crossing X ... Wire tracks A, B and D together with the upper fixed polarity feed tracks from the
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Don Vollrath
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#12678
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Jim,
I'm on G-Scale, and wouldn't dream of getting rid of the keep-alives. Worth their weight in gold.
A drawback that's not so easy to see is that on track dirty enough to make the keep-alives do
Jim,
I'm on G-Scale, and wouldn't dream of getting rid of the keep-alives. Worth their weight in gold.
A drawback that's not so easy to see is that on track dirty enough to make the keep-alives do
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whmvd
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#12677
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Don,
Wise decision - in my opinion. And you know what - operators other than your
grandson will appreciate it/depend upon it as well. Because using a DCC auto
reverser means that you don't have to
Don,
Wise decision - in my opinion. And you know what - operators other than your
grandson will appreciate it/depend upon it as well. Because using a DCC auto
reverser means that you don't have to
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Jim Betz
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#12676
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Paul,
I agree with you about its being a "band aid" - and I still install keep alives in
almost all locos. The locos simply run better in all situations.
Properly maintained locos and track is
Paul,
I agree with you about its being a "band aid" - and I still install keep alives in
almost all locos. The locos simply run better in all situations.
Properly maintained locos and track is
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Jim Betz
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#12675
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Re: Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
David;
The only place where an AR is needed on this arrangement is on the turntable bridge, and you need something there anyway. I'm not sure how an Atlas turntable is wired, so you may need to gap
David;
The only place where an AR is needed on this arrangement is on the turntable bridge, and you need something there anyway. I'm not sure how an Atlas turntable is wired, so you may need to gap
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Tim
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#12674
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Don;
I'll soon have a situation similar to yours. A double ended staging yard where one end represents Charlotte for southbound trains, and the other Winston-Salem for northbounds. Both of these
Don;
I'll soon have a situation similar to yours. A double ended staging yard where one end represents Charlotte for southbound trains, and the other Winston-Salem for northbounds. Both of these
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Tim
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#12673
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Don W. Have you considered making the storage tracks constant polarity and the mainline (or at least part of it) the AR section?
DonV
Don W. Have you considered making the storage tracks constant polarity and the mainline (or at least part of it) the AR section?
DonV
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Don Vollrath
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#12672
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Tim,
Like you, I've never had AR circuits on my railroad. Unlike you, I probably will add some soon.
My railroad has a reversing loop that's five blocks long, totaling about 60 feet in length, with
Tim,
Like you, I've never had AR circuits on my railroad. Unlike you, I probably will add some soon.
My railroad has a reversing loop that's five blocks long, totaling about 60 feet in length, with
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Don Weigt
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#12671
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Keep-a-lives are a “Band-Aid” for improperly maintained locos and track.
My two cents. 🤪
Paul O
On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
Keep-a-lives are a “Band-Aid” for improperly maintained locos and track.
My two cents. 🤪
Paul O
On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
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Paul O <pomilian@...>
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#12670
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Yep to all of that. I use the TCS KA 1s or 2s exclusively because they give me the shortest time. it's still more than I need. When I do an install, I always make sure the client knows what he's
Yep to all of that. I use the TCS KA 1s or 2s exclusively because they give me the shortest time. it's still more than I need. When I do an install, I always make sure the client knows what he's
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Tom O'Hara
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#12669
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Tom,
Yes, they both "work" ... that's the problem. By the time the AR has thrown the
turnout (due to detecting the approach of the loco - a short) the keep alive
has run the loco far enough to
Tom,
Yes, they both "work" ... that's the problem. By the time the AR has thrown the
turnout (due to detecting the approach of the loco - a short) the keep alive
has run the loco far enough to
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Jim Betz
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#12668
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Re: Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
I inserted images under Photos but also under Files – I can delete one of them later.
David G. Penty
davidpenty@...
(416) 574-4557 ( C )
(519) 855-6961 (R)
I inserted images under Photos but also under Files – I can delete one of them later.
David G. Penty
davidpenty@...
(416) 574-4557 ( C )
(519) 855-6961 (R)
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David Penty
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#12667
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Re: Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
Thanks, Blair. Beyond the small ‘Y’ is a very short space and then a double crossover begins which is managed by 2 MRC auto-reversers. But, I’ll put up the diagram, as is, unless you think I
Thanks, Blair. Beyond the small ‘Y’ is a very short space and then a double crossover begins which is managed by 2 MRC auto-reversers. But, I’ll put up the diagram, as is, unless you think I
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David Penty
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#12666
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Re: Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
David,
You'll have to post the picture to the photos area here. I saw your post on the Digitrax list. You have two options:
1) The stretch from the crossover to the small 'y' could be
David,
You'll have to post the picture to the photos area here. I saw your post on the Digitrax list. You have two options:
1) The stretch from the crossover to the small 'y' could be
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Blair
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#12665
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Need advice on wiring a cross-over and wye junction
Hello all
I’m new to the forum and still reading my way through Allan Gartner’s Wiring for DCC documents – excellent material. However, I’m looking for some specific guidance
At the end
Hello all
I’m new to the forum and still reading my way through Allan Gartner’s Wiring for DCC documents – excellent material. However, I’m looking for some specific guidance
At the end
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David Penty
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#12664
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Hi Jim,
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you said. If the Tortoise and AR work without keep-alive devices, they'll work with. The energy storage works for the engine but doesn't have any effect on the
Hi Jim,
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you said. If the Tortoise and AR work without keep-alive devices, they'll work with. The energy storage works for the engine but doesn't have any effect on the
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Tom O'Hara
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#12663
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
Dale,
Your methods are like mine. I make the turnout for a return loop in
the same electrical block as the approach. I suspect, since I'm
using Tortoises, that having the PSX-AR throw the turnout
Dale,
Your methods are like mine. I make the turnout for a return loop in
the same electrical block as the approach. I suspect, since I'm
using Tortoises, that having the PSX-AR throw the turnout
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Jim Betz
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#12662
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Re: It shouldn't be doing this.
Hi JT,
Thanks for the note. I hope that helps. DCC is more sensitive to brief power interruptions. A brief DC power interruption might manifest as a small jerk that may go unnoticed. Same with
Hi JT,
Thanks for the note. I hope that helps. DCC is more sensitive to brief power interruptions. A brief DC power interruption might manifest as a small jerk that may go unnoticed. Same with
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Dale Muir
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#12661
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
I use Tortoise contacts for frog polarity and DCC Specialties PSX-AR to control polarity of return loops. I keep the frog polarity completely independent of the return loop polarity and I have never
I use Tortoise contacts for frog polarity and DCC Specialties PSX-AR to control polarity of return loops. I keep the frog polarity completely independent of the return loop polarity and I have never
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Dale Muir
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#12660
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Re: AR Vs Tortoise to power frog
I always use switch machine contacts to control frog polarity on turnouts and haven't had an issue. On my layout I mostly use Bluepoint machines, but Tortoises work the same way.
I also use DPDT
I always use switch machine contacts to control frog polarity on turnouts and haven't had an issue. On my layout I mostly use Bluepoint machines, but Tortoises work the same way.
I also use DPDT
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Tim
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#12659
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