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Re: DCC Loco Programing

Kurt Konrath
 

I bought a set from Factory Direct Trains. Just google them 

Kurt


On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:07 AM, 'William E. Davies' WEBillDavies@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

 



I have a set of these and I highly recommend them.
Bill


On 13-Dec-16 09:44, Bruce W brw917@... [WiringForDCC] wrote:
 
Is this what you are looking for?


Bruce

 


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:14 PM, 'Dons Mail' dscharenbroch@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 

All

 

I saw a DCC loco programing fixture on YouTube which sat on the track and had wheels which cradled a locomotive. One could program a loco because the fixture would conduct the signal from the rails to the locomotive. The engine wheels and the fixture wheels turned so one could simulate any DCC function without engine movement.

 

I have very limited space and this tool would be excellent for programing. Is anyone aware of this device and where it can be purchased?

 

Don



The new Digitrax 240

john
 

   Has anyone had a chance to research the new Digitrax 240. My club is presently powering our layout with  control station, 8 amp, 200 and a 5 amp booster running off a substantial 16 volt AC transformer. We also run a portable with  5 amp control station powered by a AC transformer and we are successful. We have no spares so the loss of a station would put us out of business.
   We have been looking for an 8 amp command station that would be a replacement for any of our stations.
   Advise tells us that we should go with the 240. The problem is that everything we are using would have to be reprogrammed and we would need a special power supply as it only accepts DC power.

Question 1.   Has anyone researched the power supply. Does it require a special power supply, AC to DC with diodes, or a simple Capacitor regulated power supply?

Question 2.   Are the accessories that are reprogrammed, backward compatible? We use our throttles on more than 1 layout.

Question 3.   Is the 240 compatible with older Command stations and Boosters?

Any help will be appreciated.
john

Re: DCC Loco Programing

WILLIAM E. DAVIES
 



I have a set of these and I highly recommend them.
Bill


On 13-Dec-16 09:44, Bruce W brw917@... [WiringForDCC] wrote:
 
Is this what you are looking for?


Bruce

 


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:14 PM, 'Dons Mail' dscharenbroch@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 

All

 

I saw a DCC loco programing fixture on YouTube which sat on the track and had wheels which cradled a locomotive. One could program a loco because the fixture would conduct the signal from the rails to the locomotive. The engine wheels and the fixture wheels turned so one could simulate any DCC function without engine movement.

 

I have very limited space and this tool would be excellent for programing. Is anyone aware of this device and where it can be purchased?

 

Don



Re: DCC Loco Programing

brw917
 

Is this what you are looking for?


Bruce

 


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:14 PM, 'Dons Mail' dscharenbroch@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 

All

 

I saw a DCC loco programing fixture on YouTube which sat on the track and had wheels which cradled a locomotive. One could program a loco because the fixture would conduct the signal from the rails to the locomotive. The engine wheels and the fixture wheels turned so one could simulate any DCC function without engine movement.

 

I have very limited space and this tool would be excellent for programing. Is anyone aware of this device and where it can be purchased?

 

Don


Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Chet Lowry
 

Tks everyone for the help and the great suggestions. I have been gone this week but now will get to work on this. Great to have fellow railroaders to help with problems.
 Tks again
Chet 

Re: DCC install in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Chet Lowry
 

Tks for the video there is one thing i will check out on the motor is the tab you were talking about. Very helpful video tks.

Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Chet Lowry
 

Tks everyone for your suggestions. I had been gone for a week and now back home will work on these and get back to you all. Great to have others in the hobby help out. 
Tks again 
Chet 

DCC Loco Programing

Donald Scharenbroch
 

All

 

I saw a DCC loco programing fixture on YouTube which sat on the track and had wheels which cradled a locomotive. One could program a loco because the fixture would conduct the signal from the rails to the locomotive. The engine wheels and the fixture wheels turned so one could simulate any DCC function without engine movement.

 

I have very limited space and this tool would be excellent for programing. Is anyone aware of this device and where it can be purchased?

 

Don

Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

dvollrath@...
 

I like the idea of simultaneously using two of those $2 meters... one for volts and the other for amps. No need to flip any switches then. Just add labels and move your eyes.

DonV.

Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

rg <richg_1998@...>
 

Not a problem. I have been using Meters for forty years. Meter also has a fuse to protect meter.

Rich




On Monday, December 5, 2016, 12:42 PM, Jon Holmes moresteam765@... [WiringForDCC] wrote:



RIch
You should put a switch in there to break the meter input when you change meter settings. You run a strong probability of frying your meter when going through the resistance and low DC Current settings.

Jon




Re: DCC install in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

John White
 

I would have to say it may be the motor getting bad or needs attention.
I have converted three Rivarossi engines and they preform well. My
first attempt was my Dad's Y6-b a couple years ago and it still runs
good. This is only a basic decoder. Also there is an easy motor
isolation to it as well. I did a Youtube video on this and others that
you can check out to see the motor isolation. Basically it is the shinny
piece on the motor that makes contact with the frame for DC. I removed
it and no issues with shorts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTuu707UeU
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Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Jon Holmes
 

RIch
You should put a switch in there to break the meter input when you change meter settings. You run a strong probability of frying your meter when going through the resistance and low DC Current settings.

Jon


Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

richg_1998@...
 

Just in case, you should always do a amps check with a DC only loco. The method I have used for some years is in the link.
I press lightley on the drivers though some say stop motor completely.I am always concerned about the plastic gears or fiber gears in older brass locos.

I have four of these meters and they do quite well as compared to an expensive meter and the readings from my digital Scope and cheap to replace if damaged.
Reads 13.6 vac with my NCE Power Cab and the club NCE Power Pro.

Meter Modification

 

Some engineers would not agree but has worked for me and a couple of club members.

Rich

DCC install in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Chet Lowry
 

I see that my origanal post didnt show up so i will repost it. thanks again


Hello group
I have a question on DCC installation in a Rivarossi HO FEF 484. I
followed the instruction as layed out in Allens page to install a
decoder in a non dcc ready locomotive. Detatching the wires from the
motor checking to make sure it is isolated, and making the connection
per digitrax decoder manual for SDXH166d decoder. When finished nothing
works and moving the loco by hand it acts like it isnt getting power.
When i get it to start to make sound but still no motion i am unable to
change any of the cv settings or use any of the functions on the
controller. I tried a different decoder thinking it was defective but
the same thing is happening. In frustration I wire it back to DC and it
runs perfect as it did before the install. This isnt my first decoder
insatallation all other have work perfect, so I am at a loss why this
one wont work, DCC ready and dc converstions.
Thanks for any help and sugestions with my problem.
Chet

Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Jan Boen
 

Hi Chet,

Put in a heavier decoder.
A 3 Amp decoder is marginally bigger and more expensive than the classical 1 Amp decoder.
e.g. the Tams LD-G-34 plus is at 35,- € and provides 3 Amp.
I've installed them in several older HO scale loco's and works great.
Cheaper and easier than replacing the engine.

Good luck,


Jan

On 5/12/2016 2:42, Chet Lowry stargazer_47@... [WiringForDCC] wrote:
 

Hello Group

An addition to my post i think i have discovered that the rivarossi
motor in my locomotive draws to many amps for the decoder to opperate
correctly, being the loco is from the mid 90's. Testing of the decoders
showed they work perfectly no problems. So i guess my next step is to
remotor the loco to a modern style motor. Any thought here would be
great.

Tks again

Chet


On 12/3/2016 9:05 PM, Chet Lowry wrote:
> Hello group
> I have a question on DCC installation in a Rivarossi HO FEF 484. I
> followed the instruction as layed out in Allens page to install a
> decoder in a non dcc ready locomotive. Detatching the wires from the
> motor checking to make sure it is isolated, and making the connection
> per digitrax decoder manual for SDXH166d decoder. When finished
> nothing works and moving the loco by hand it acts like it isnt getting
> power. When i get it to start to make sound but still no motion i am
> unable to change any of the cv settings or use any of the functions on
> the controller. I tried a different decoder thinking it was defective
> but the same thing is happening. In frustration I wire it back to DC
> and it runs perfect as it did before the install. This isnt my first
> decoder insatallation all other have work perfect, so I am at a loss
> why this one wont work, DCC ready and dc converstions.
> Thanks for any help and sugestions with my problem.
> Chet



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Re: DCC istall in Rivarossi 484 locomotive

Chet Lowry
 

Hello Group

An addition to my post i think i have discovered that the rivarossi
motor in my locomotive draws to many amps for the decoder to opperate
correctly, being the loco is from the mid 90's. Testing of the decoders
showed they work perfectly no problems. So i guess my next step is to
remotor the loco to a modern style motor. Any thought here would be
great.

Tks again

Chet

On 12/3/2016 9:05 PM, Chet Lowry wrote:
Hello group
I have a question on DCC installation in a Rivarossi HO FEF 484. I
followed the instruction as layed out in Allens page to install a
decoder in a non dcc ready locomotive. Detatching the wires from the
motor checking to make sure it is isolated, and making the connection
per digitrax decoder manual for SDXH166d decoder. When finished
nothing works and moving the loco by hand it acts like it isnt getting
power. When i get it to start to make sound but still no motion i am
unable to change any of the cv settings or use any of the functions on
the controller. I tried a different decoder thinking it was defective
but the same thing is happening. In frustration I wire it back to DC
and it runs perfect as it did before the install. This isnt my first
decoder insatallation all other have work perfect, so I am at a loss
why this one wont work, DCC ready and dc converstions.
Thanks for any help and sugestions with my problem.
Chet

Re: Securing DCC bus wires under the layout quickly and neatly

Digitrax Dad (Lancashire Fusilier)
 

Yeah Dave your one is similar to this Otter brand by the sounds of it what with the plastic shoulders and different sizes of staple etc. anyhow, I thought this was a bargain and useful too.

Paul Hamilton
Perth, Western Australia 

Re: Securing DCC bus wires under the layout quickly and neatly

David Heine
 

I been using a PowerFast Cable Tacker to staple my wires in place on my layout. Unlike standard staples, the staples for it have shoulders which stop the staple from entering the wood too far and crushing the wires. I mostly use the 3/32" opening and 1/4" round staples but also have some with a 5/32" opening. The 1/4" round is also good for CAT 5 and 6 cable and RG cable. Mine is a Model No. 31000 that I bought several years ago at my local Home Depot. The also make a stapler for standard 12 and 14 AWG 2/conductor w/ground ROMEX type cable which looks similar.

Dave Heine
Easton, PA 

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Blair & Rasa smithbr@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:


I've used nail-in cable clips in the past, but more recently resorted to just using a T-25 stapler with 1/2 or 5/8" staples to staple wires to the bottom of my 1x2 joists.  Quick, simple, and easy to rip out and reset if needed.

Blair Smith



On 16/12/03 10:57, lancashire_fusilier@....au [WiringForDCC] wrote:

Further to my photo in the photos section I have been wiring up underneath one of my layout modules and this one is 12' long by 12" wide. I was running into challenges using a hammer to install wire and cable retaining clips until I came across this particular device. Hope this is of interest to our international friends and not just my parochial Australian crew!


https://youtu.be/apLIU-S-fg4






Re: Securing DCC bus wires under the layout quickly and neatly

Blair & Rasa
 

I've used nail-in cable clips in the past, but more recently resorted to just using a T-25 stapler with 1/2 or 5/8" staples to staple wires to the bottom of my 1x2 joists.  Quick, simple, and easy to rip out and reset if needed.

Blair Smith



On 16/12/03 10:57, lancashire_fusilier@... [WiringForDCC] wrote:

Further to my photo in the photos section I have been wiring up underneath one of my layout modules and this one is 12' long by 12" wide. I was running into challenges using a hammer to install wire and cable retaining clips until I came across this particular device. Hope this is of interest to our international friends and not just my parochial Australian crew!


https://youtu.be/apLIU-S-fg4



Securing DCC bus wires under the layout quickly and neatly

Digitrax Dad (Lancashire Fusilier)
 

Further to my photo in the photos section I have been wiring up underneath one of my layout modules and this one is 12' long by 12" wide. I was running into challenges using a hammer to install wire and cable retaining clips until I came across this particular device. Hope this is of interest to our international friends and not just my parochial Australian crew!


https://youtu.be/apLIU-S-fg4