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Re: DCC Question

wirefordcc
 

Until someone can review your files that you have uploaded, let me just point you to my reversing section on my website.  There are dog bones, and reversing loops attached to other reversing loops.  There are about 20 drawings trying to cover everyone’s situation in some way.

 

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#c4

 

Allan Gartner

Wiring For DCC

 

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Subject: [WiringForDCC] DCC Question

 

 

I added a diagram of my question in the files section (DCC Question).

 

I have a large dog bone that is sectioned and am adding a loop off the two legs.

I'm looking for guidance as to where I need to gap the rails and wire in 1 or more AR1s.

Thanks for any comments, suggestions or need for more information.

 

 


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

JBJudy
 

OK Great - thx for the feedback.


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

JBJudy
 

Sorry JB Morrow Grayslake Il  N scale


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

dvollrath@...
 

I agree.  As shown there are no reversing sections as long as the 'loops' are just that and do not have any additional paths for a train to crossover from A to B for example.


DonV  


Re: Making Smoke

Ed S <eschwerkolt@...>
 

I have had the same success......

Ed S

At 08:17 AM 9/22/2016, you wrote:


I was able to make smoke with a decoder, but only once.

Dixon Robertson
Columbia, SC


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

Paul O
 

jbjudy (name please),

See the Atlas right-Track picture I added to your file.

 

If I drew  your plan correctly, you don’t need to use any insulated joiners.

Follow the red track around the layout and you’ll see that there are no shorts.

The Atlas crossovers don’t come into play because they isolate the crossing tracks by themselves.

 

Paul O

 

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Re: Making Smoke

richg_1998@...
 

Did it burn out the decoder function or the smoke unit or did you use a relay like the link I sent?
My understanding is the decoder will not supply enough current.

RIch


DCC Question

JBJudy
 

I added a diagram of my question in the files section (DCC Question).


I have a large dog bone that is sectioned and am adding a loop off the two legs.

I'm looking for guidance as to where I need to gap the rails and wire in 1 or more AR1s.

Thanks for any comments, suggestions or need for more information.




New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

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Re: Making Smoke

Charles Brumbelow
 

Electrical stuff operates using magic smoke. Once you let that escape the device is toast. 

Charles

On Sep 22, 2016, at 7:17 AM, wdrlaw@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

I was able to make smoke with a decoder, but only once.

Dixon Robertson
Columbia, SC


Re: Making Smoke

William Dixon Robertson III
 

I was able to make smoke with a decoder, but only once.

Dixon Robertson
Columbia, SC


Re: Making Smoke

richg_1998@...
 

Making smoke using a decoder. Measure required current with DC power supply and an amp meter. Vary the voltage for what you would like to see in use on the layout. Pretty simple.
No idea if RS carries the relay anymore. Online electronics sellers will sell them.

http://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/Tech_note%2014.pdf

Rich


Re: Making Smoke

Glenn
 

By “smoke stack” I am assuming you are talking about a building’s chimney.

 

From the picture I would wire a lead from a wall-wart or other power source to the two ears on the left and right sides. You may be able to unwrap some wire so you do not melt the plastic ears.

 

Try using 6volts, then increase the voltage until you get the desired amount of smoke.

 

That’s a good price since a Seuthe unit will cost upwards of $15.

 

Check around you can find ‘flavored’ smoke in various scents like wood, oil, coal, trash, etc.

 

Glenn

 

 

 


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Subject: Re: [WiringForDCC] Making Smoke

 




I would think you could use a simple 2 function decoder yo power the unit. 

 

As long as you are within the max amp rating it may not cause problem.  

 

Just a thought

 

Kurt K


On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:51 AM, terryintexas7@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

 

I bought a Bachmann Smoke unit
Like this one

 http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1706



and need to know how to wire it to use it in a smoke stack on my layout

Thanks

 



Re: Making Smoke

Kurt Konrath
 

I would think you could use a simple 2 function decoder yo power the unit. 

As long as you are within the max amp rating it may not cause problem.  

Just a thought

Kurt K


On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:51 AM, terryintexas7@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

 

I bought a Bachmann Smoke unit
Like this one

 http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1706



and need to know how to wire it to use it in a smoke stack on my layout

Thanks



Making Smoke

terryintexas7@...
 

I bought a Bachmann Smoke unit
Like this one

 http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1706



and need to know how to wire it to use it in a smoke stack on my layout

Thanks



Re: Wire size for jumpers between sliding drawer and layout

Digitrax Dad (Lancashire Fusilier)
 

Thanks Glenn,
I agree with with you, I just went the conservative approach to rule out issues later I guess and the wire was free! I calculated having two locos sound fitted on each of my six tracks with three operators to come up with my 5 amps utilisation - conservative again I know.
Cheers,
Paul Hamilton
Perth, Western Australia 


Re: Wire size for jumpers between sliding drawer and layout

Glenn
 

Actually 18ga or 22ga would be sufficient for even the longest run on your layout.

 

I doubt very much if you will ever be running the total number of locos that will use 5A on your layout at the same time.

 

Your research is correct, but it is geared to the fact all five amps of power will be used at the same time.

 

Glenn

 


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Subject: [WiringForDCC] Wire size for jumpers between sliding drawer and layout

 

Hello group,

I have searched on the topic but wasn't able to unearth the answers so thought I would ask the question in a new topic.

I have a 12' x 1' layout board. It has a drawer underneath it that holds the electronic circuit boards. The drawer is located central to the layout board. Therefore the longest run from the drawer to any track is 5'. I will post an image to the Photos section. It has a Digitrax PM42 and BDL168 that both have wires that need to go from the drawer to the layout itself. I have AWG13 wire connecting these Digitrax circuit boards to a terminal strip on the drawer.

The drawer can only move about 12" or so. I want to know if I can use lesser sized wire for a 12" jumper between the drawer and the layout itself, say a AWG16 or AWG18 just for 12" of wire to connect between the drawer and the layout and then use AWG13 again on the layout board itself.

All research I have done says that for the current we are using (5A) and the very short distance (12") , the voltage drop will be negligible in the wire size I propose (AWG16-18).

Does this sound ok?

Paul Hamilton

Perth, Western Australia

 



Re: Wire size for jumpers between sliding drawer and layout

Digitrax Dad (Lancashire Fusilier)
 

Thanks for the response Mark, I will be using 1mm2 multi strand which is around AWG17 in a curly cord format http://www.curlycords.com.au/curlycords/12v-24v-dc-power-curly-cords/

That should keep things neat and tidy at the back of the drawer for the PM42 and BDL168 connections to the layout.

Thanks and regards,


Paul Hamilton

Perth, Western Australia



Re: Wire size for jumpers between sliding drawer and layout

Mark Gurries
 


Yes.  Small wire gauge will be fine.    Leave your self some slack for movement and connection so make the jumper about 16” long.  Only use stranded wire for this connection.

On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:49 PM, lancashire_fusilier@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:



Hello group, 


I have searched on the topic but wasn't able to unearth the answers so thought I would ask the question in a new topic.


I have a 12' x 1' layout board. It has a drawer underneath it that holds the electronic circuit boards. The drawer is located central to the layout board. Therefore the longest run from the drawer to any track is 5'. I will post an image to the Photos section. It has a Digitrax PM42 and BDL168 that both have wires that need to go from the drawer to the layout itself. I have AWG13 wire connecting these Digitrax circuit boards to a terminal strip on the drawer.


The drawer can only move about 12" or so. I want to know if I can use lesser sized wire for a 12" jumper between the drawer and the layout itself, say a AWG16 or AWG18 just for 12" of wire to connect between the drawer and the layout and then use AWG13 again on the layout board itself.


All research I have done says that for the current we are using (5A) and the very short distance (12") , the voltage drop will be negligible in the wire size I propose (AWG16-18).


Does this sound ok?


Paul Hamilton

Perth, Western Australia





Best Regards,

Mark Gurries
Electrical Engineer
DCC Website & NMRA DCC Clinics: www.markgurries.com



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