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Using a three way wall switch to control turnouts

Jim Rizzolo <jimrizzolo@...>
 

I was visiting a layout where the owner used three way electrical switches to control his turnouts. It seems like an inexpensive way to throw the turnout and power the frog. He mentioned that he got the idea from an article in Model Railroader. Does anyone have details on this?


Thanks


Re: Servo Motor Turnout Control

Jim Cubie <jimcubie@...>
 

There is a whole world out there on the web using Arduinos with special attachments to use servos to control turnouts.  There are cheap servos (and arduinos).  There was also an article in model railroad hobbyist in the last year or 2 about using cheap servos to control turnouts without Arduino controls.  Tam Valley sells servo based turnout controls.


Servo Motor Turnout Control

colinseggie@...
 

Hi all ,I have been fiddling with 555 timers with little success. I know there ars commercial Servo drivers, out there but most are expensvive. Does anyone have an easy /relativly cheep servo control driver to turn our turnouts?(That they are prepared to share?) Alan Gartner says his timers are only for Stall Motors!!

Thanks Doc Colin


Re: Dual Turnout Control

roblmclear@...
 

Jerry in the January 2008 copy of Model Railroader there is an article describing how to go about doing what you want to do that is controlling Tortoise machines from two locations.   It starts on page 82, let me know if you don't have a copy of the mag.

Rob McLear
Aussie.


Re: Dual Turnout Control

dvollrath@...
 

Jerry,

Paul has pointed to my document showing how to use conventional DC power to control Tortoise machines. Simply reversing the direction of voltage to the motor reverses the direction of the turnout points. It takes either DPDT switches or an SPDT 3-wire connection to a bi-polar power supply to do that. Note that with multiple toggle switches the switch lever positions will NOT necessarily indicate the actual position of the turnout.

 

A different way to do it if you are using DCC would be to jump to the Team Digital SMD84 or their SRC16 with MotoD, or perhaps an NCE Switch-it. [I have not looked at or used other brands.] Either one of these combinations can be programmed to use external pushbuttons on your panel(s) to set the state of a Tortoise motor. The dual control panel idea then boils down to simply wiring two pushbuttons, one for local and another for remote control, in parallel to the same terminals on the PCB. Pressing either button at either location will activate the Tortoise motor as desired. Either of the devices mentioned can be powered from DCC track or accessory voltage and will also respond to accessory commands from your ‘throttle’ or control station. My preference is the T-D SMD84 as by history it seems to be more trouble free. There is also a relatively simple way to use a single PB to get an SMD84 to ‘toggle’ to the opposite state. I can post that if interested.

 

There is no need to disable local turnout control if you can trust your operators to always return the Local toggle switch to the ‘safe’ position. With the SMD84 you can simply re-call for the known correct/desired position using a remote path control button.

 

DonV

 


Re: DCC Question

JBJudy
 

Thx = this answers all my questions to date.
JB


Re: Dual Turnout Control

Paul O <pomilian@...>
 

Jerry, there is an excellent write-up by Don V in the Files area under ‘SW Machine Controls’ called ‘SLO-MOS.doc’. Look at Figure 1.

That shows how to wire two or more switches for multi-point control. However that uses DPDT switches.

I can’t think of any way to do it with SPDT switches.

 

Paul O

 

From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...]
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Subject: [WiringForDCC] Dual Turnout Control

 

 

The subject line might be worded incorrectly, but what I am looking for is a circuit that will allow stall motor turnout machines (Tortoise) to be thrown at the site of the turnout and remotely as needed.  Will I need a second switch at each turnout to lock out the local control?  We are using the SPDT, three-wire option for local control described by Circuitron for the Tortoise machines.

 

Thanks

 

Jerry Michels

Amarillo Railroad Museum


Dual Turnout Control

asychis@...
 

The subject line might be worded incorrectly, but what I am looking for is a circuit that will allow stall motor turnout machines (Tortoise) to be thrown at the site of the turnout and remotely as needed.  Will I need a second switch at each turnout to lock out the local control?  We are using the SPDT, three-wire option for local control described by Circuitron for the Tortoise machines.
 
Thanks
 
Jerry Michels
Amarillo Railroad Museum


Re: DCC Question

redking56@...
 

The file may have been uploaded, but I am unable to find it.

Rich


Re: DCC Question

wirefordcc
 

Until someone can review your files that you have uploaded, let me just point you to my reversing section on my website.  There are dog bones, and reversing loops attached to other reversing loops.  There are about 20 drawings trying to cover everyone’s situation in some way.

 

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#c4

 

Allan Gartner

Wiring For DCC

 

From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:24 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] DCC Question

 

 

I added a diagram of my question in the files section (DCC Question).

 

I have a large dog bone that is sectioned and am adding a loop off the two legs.

I'm looking for guidance as to where I need to gap the rails and wire in 1 or more AR1s.

Thanks for any comments, suggestions or need for more information.

 

 


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

JBJudy
 

OK Great - thx for the feedback.


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

JBJudy
 

Sorry JB Morrow Grayslake Il  N scale


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

dvollrath@...
 

I agree.  As shown there are no reversing sections as long as the 'loops' are just that and do not have any additional paths for a train to crossover from A to B for example.


DonV  


Re: Making Smoke

Ed S <eschwerkolt@...>
 

I have had the same success......

Ed S

At 08:17 AM 9/22/2016, you wrote:


I was able to make smoke with a decoder, but only once.

Dixon Robertson
Columbia, SC


Re: New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

Paul O <pomilian@...>
 

jbjudy (name please),

See the Atlas right-Track picture I added to your file.

 

If I drew  your plan correctly, you don’t need to use any insulated joiners.

Follow the red track around the layout and you’ll see that there are no shorts.

The Atlas crossovers don’t come into play because they isolate the crossing tracks by themselves.

 

Paul O

 

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Subject: [WiringForDCC] New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

 

 


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New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

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Re: Making Smoke

richg_1998@...
 

Did it burn out the decoder function or the smoke unit or did you use a relay like the link I sent?
My understanding is the decoder will not supply enough current.

RIch


DCC Question

JBJudy
 

I added a diagram of my question in the files section (DCC Question).


I have a large dog bone that is sectioned and am adding a loop off the two legs.

I'm looking for guidance as to where I need to gap the rails and wire in 1 or more AR1s.

Thanks for any comments, suggestions or need for more information.




New file uploaded to WiringForDCC

WiringForDCC@...
 

Hello,


This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WiringForDCC
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File : /Cooper/Y DCC Questions.jpg
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Description : Adding a loop off a dog bone


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Re: Making Smoke

Charles Brumbelow
 

Electrical stuff operates using magic smoke. Once you let that escape the device is toast. 

Charles

On Sep 22, 2016, at 7:17 AM, wdrlaw@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

I was able to make smoke with a decoder, but only once.

Dixon Robertson
Columbia, SC

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