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Re: Resistance Soldering Wattage for HO

Earl T. Hackett <hackete1@...>
 

In general the joint should heat to soft soldering temperature (450 F) in 3 seconds.

If it takes longer, heat will conduct to places where you might not want it. If it is shorter there will be the tendency of overheating and oxidizing the base materials before the solder has melted.

----- Original Message -----
From: jmscnw
To: WiringForDCC@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Resistance Soldering Wattage for HO


Allan,

I just received my resistance soldering station ( 100W ).
For HO track would you still use 50% for feeder soldering ?
I'm assuming you use a 250W unit( is that O gauge track on
demonstration video ? ) .





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Resistance Soldering Wattage for HO

jmscnw <jmscnw@...>
 

Allan,

I just received my resistance soldering station ( 100W ).
For HO track would you still use 50% for feeder soldering ?
I'm assuming you use a 250W unit( is that O gauge track on
demonstration video ? ) .

Re: Turnouts and indicator boards

wirefordcc <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

See Don's circuits at:

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/sw_ctl.htm#a15

If you will only be controlling your turnout from one location, you
only need one DPDT switch and LED pair.

Re: Loco "shorts" on Peco Insulfrog Double Slip but OK on Peco Electrofrog Turnouts.

gissapint <gissapint@...>
 

Thanks for this and the other 2 replies - much appreciated. This
solution is the simplest so will give it a try. Watch this space!

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Doug Stuard" <dstuard@c...>
wrote:

With insulfrog turnouts, the rails that converge in the frog are
separated by a thin strip of plastic. Occasionally metal wheels
can
bridge these two rails, causing a short. A small piece or clear
tape
or some clear nail polish can insulate this area.

Doug Stuard
NVNTRAK

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Earl T. Hackett"
<hackete1@c...> wrote:

I'm not familiar with the Peco DS, but it's a 90% probability
that
the loco wheels are shorting between two rails of opposite
polarity.
Check for electrical continuity between all points and their stock
rails. On a DS things get pretty tight on the inside points. You
may want to look into using switch machine contacts to set the
polarity on these points similar to the method used with a powered
frog.
----- Original Message -----
From: gissapint
To: WiringForDCC@...
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Loco "shorts" on Peco Insulfrog Double
Slip but OK on Peco Electrofrog Turnouts.


I couldn't find this issue on your forums so would be grateful
for any
advice.
I have a small L-shape end-to-end "00" scale layout wired for
DCC
(Bachmann)using Peco code 75 track. There is a run around loop
incorporating the double slip (DS)at one end and 2 electrofrog
turnouts at the other. The layout successfully passed its
wiring "test" using a DCC chipped Bachmann Class 25 diesel. I
then
added a chip to the Hornby Q1 0-6-0 which has pick up on all
wheels
including the tender. This loco shorts the system when
traveling
straight across the DS but is otherwise OK on the layout. To
confuse
the issue,I had no problems with the following locos when run
(separately) as analogue - Hornby Terrier (0-6-0), Bachmann N-
Class (2-
6-0) and Bachmann Class 4 Standard Tank (2-6-4).
I'm puzzled. The DS is used straight "out of the box" - should
I
have
done some additional wiring? If so, what should I do?

Many thanks,

Dave Tootell
UK.





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Re: DCC "Friendly" Turnouts

wirefordcc <wire4dcc_admin@...>
 

James,

The Custom-Line Mark IV that you may use is a nickel-silver version of
the classic brass turnout that Atlas has been making for years. Use
the turnout diagram on my website at:

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_atlas_roco.htm#a1

Allan

Re: Is it necessary to fuse the primary side of transformers?

Vollrath, Don <dvollrath@...>
 

Fusing the primary with will offer additional damage protection in the event that the secondary side (or the transformer itself) suffers a catastrophic failure. It wouldn't hurt to put in a fuse or small circuit breaker on the utility power input side. However, it should be sized to avoid nuisance blowings on start-up due to high inrush current. In your case, a 1 amp slow-blow type per transformer should work. Using a small circuit breaker instead of a fuse also hase the conveneince of providing an On/Off switch. Be sure to install it in a safe manner.

DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of mikeboedi
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:26 AM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Is it necessary to fuse the primary side of
transformers?


I'm using 1 ControlUnit (IntelliBox) with 2 boosters. The units are
powered by various transformers.
Each unit has a maximum current draw of 3Amps @ 18V and are protected
against shorts.

Recently, it occured to me that the transformers don't have a fuse on
the primary side, only the main fuse for everything @ 12Amps.
Is it necessary to protect them on the primary side, and if so is my
math corrst that if they deliver 3Amps@ 18V, they should not draw more
than 0.25Amps @ 230V?
Would you recommend fusing them?

your opinion matters...

thx
Michael

Re: Is it necessary to fuse the primary side of transformers?

Dale Gloer
 

Definitely, and your math is correct, but you need to use a somewhat
larger fuse than the expected maximum load. Also, since
transformers have a high inrush current relative to their continuous
load, a slow blowing fuse is recommended. A 1 amp slow blow fuse
would be a good safe choice for the primary side of your
transformers.

Dale Gloer


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "mikeboedi"
<michael.boedi@a...> wrote:

I'm using 1 ControlUnit (IntelliBox) with 2 boosters. The units are
powered by various transformers.
Each unit has a maximum current draw of 3Amps @ 18V and are
protected
against shorts.

Recently, it occured to me that the transformers don't have a fuse
on
the primary side, only the main fuse for everything @ 12Amps.
Is it necessary to protect them on the primary side, and if so is
my
math corrst that if they deliver 3Amps@ 18V, they should not draw
more
than 0.25Amps @ 230V?
Would you recommend fusing them?

your opinion matters...

thx
Michael

Is it necessary to fuse the primary side of transformers?

mikeboedi <michael.boedi@...>
 

I'm using 1 ControlUnit (IntelliBox) with 2 boosters. The units are
powered by various transformers.
Each unit has a maximum current draw of 3Amps @ 18V and are protected
against shorts.

Recently, it occured to me that the transformers don't have a fuse on
the primary side, only the main fuse for everything @ 12Amps.
Is it necessary to protect them on the primary side, and if so is my
math corrst that if they deliver 3Amps@ 18V, they should not draw more
than 0.25Amps @ 230V?
Would you recommend fusing them?

your opinion matters...

thx
Michael

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

hawkhawk22
 

Hello All,

After John asked me those questions, I called Lenz directly, they
walked me through some tests, and told me that it seemed the
programing trck was not working properly. and to return it.

In the mean time they are going to express ship me a brand new unit,
no charge. they were great with me on the phone. I definatly was
impressed.

But I wish to thank you all for the help, and the understanding of a
new person trying to learn as I go.

Thanks again all , I do appreciate it allot,
God Bless
Ray


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Vollrath, Don" <dvollrath@m...>
wrote:

Either the Lenz LH100 is putting out DC and your loco decoders are
taking off or the NCE decoders are faulty.
Time to
1) Measure track voltage with a Standard DC voltmeter...It should
read zero volts. [The average of the DCC track voltage without
any 'analog loco offset' is supposed to be zero. Else the LH100 is
faulty.
2) Try some elses DCC equipt loco that is known to work. Dont re-
program anything. If it too takes off or otherwise cannot run at its
programmed address the LH100 is faulty. If it works, the LH100 is
working properly
3) If someone elses loco works OK but you still can't get the NCE
D13SRJs to work, either they are all faulty (unlikely) or you are
doing something wrong in wiring or programming them.
4) Use a new D13. Just hook it up to track and a loco
motor....skip the loco shell install. Don't change any CVs. It
should work as loco short address 3 right out of the package.
5) Operator error...Re-read and follow all the instructions.
Better yet, get someone local to give you a 'hands on' lesson. In
the end, be sure to disable DC operation mode (CV29) to avoid false
DC runnaways with the D13.
DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:29 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???



John,

I went and wired a different loco up, programed it. and it seems
to
be doing the same thing. i have several decoders all of the brand
D13SRJ, and i am using a Lenz LH100.

I hope that your not thinking of what I just though of, cause Lenz
will hear a nasty note from me LOL

Ray

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Vollrath, Don <dvollrath@...>
 

Either the Lenz LH100 is putting out DC and your loco decoders are taking off or the NCE decoders are faulty.
Time to
1) Measure track voltage with a Standard DC voltmeter...It should read zero volts. [The average of the DCC track voltage without any 'analog loco offset' is supposed to be zero. Else the LH100 is faulty.
2) Try some elses DCC equipt loco that is known to work. Dont re-program anything. If it too takes off or otherwise cannot run at its programmed address the LH100 is faulty. If it works, the LH100 is working properly
3) If someone elses loco works OK but you still can't get the NCE D13SRJs to work, either they are all faulty (unlikely) or you are doing something wrong in wiring or programming them.
4) Use a new D13. Just hook it up to track and a loco motor....skip the loco shell install. Don't change any CVs. It should work as loco short address 3 right out of the package.
5) Operator error...Re-read and follow all the instructions. Better yet, get someone local to give you a 'hands on' lesson. In the end, be sure to disable DC operation mode (CV29) to avoid false DC runnaways with the D13.
DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:29 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???



John,

I went and wired a different loco up, programed it. and it seems to
be doing the same thing. i have several decoders all of the brand
D13SRJ, and i am using a Lenz LH100.

I hope that your not thinking of what I just though of, cause Lenz
will hear a nasty note from me LOL

Ray

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

hawkhawk22
 

John,

I went and wired a different loco up, programed it. and it seems to
be doing the same thing. i have several decoders all of the brand
D13SRJ, and i am using a Lenz LH100.

I hope that your not thinking of what I just though of, cause Lenz
will hear a nasty note from me LOL

Ray


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "JOHN" <jcebay@n...> wrote:

hi
Is this just one locomotive that is causing a problem ie do you
have
others that are working and this is just a rogue?

john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:25
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes Sir, I went and reset it, as that was easy to do. and when I
read the ADD of the loco it was the default 0003, so I changed it
to
the number of the Loco. which was 4013. it did shutter, I did
hear
it like it as doing something. but here is the thing that happened
2
times.

When I went back to read the address of the decoder to make sure
that
it was correct. it Jumped like about 1/2 inch backwards. then came
up with a weird number like 3256 or something like that. then I re
checked it then it finally said the correct number I programmed it
to
be 4013.

Now I went to the CV number on the Lenz, checked it, to change
some
numbers there. ( which apparently is the same as the binary in
other
DCC systems ) and moved it to the main OP track. and tried to get
it to run, it didn't move at all. so I went back to the default
setting, and it just wants to run like its on a old Analog system
with the throttle almost full open.

That is where it confuses me to try to understand why. it also
happened to me when I used a Lenz decoder. everything is wired
correctly, track is separated from the program track. all leads
are
correctly connected.

I even went so far as to reset the DCC control system to see if
there
was a possible fault there too. but that didn't seem to do
anything.

Thanks
Ray

Oh PS: yes I do understand that a Lenz is a simple system ( in
reflect to that other comment) but as I said, this don't seem to
be
a normal thing. and I'm like a blind person walking down a rail, in
the dark.





--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

HI Ray
Have you gone back to the Programming Track (Not running
track) and
done a reset followed by changing the loco address to something
unique? If
the loco is on the Programming track it usually stutters a little
after
receiving the commands? Does it do this?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 16:48
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes I do, took me a bit to do it, but yea. I do. As I posted
to
a
RE post, there is the info there of what im trying to do. and
confused I definatly am

Ray

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward"
<jcebay@n...>
wrote:

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the
decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for
the
hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these
decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of
a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong
with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button
so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting
effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF
they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Yahoo! Groups Links





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Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

JOHN <jcebay@...>
 

hi
Is this just one locomotive that is causing a problem ie do you have
others that are working and this is just a rogue?

john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:25
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes Sir, I went and reset it, as that was easy to do. and when I
read the ADD of the loco it was the default 0003, so I changed it to
the number of the Loco. which was 4013. it did shutter, I did hear
it like it as doing something. but here is the thing that happened 2
times.

When I went back to read the address of the decoder to make sure that
it was correct. it Jumped like about 1/2 inch backwards. then came
up with a weird number like 3256 or something like that. then I re
checked it then it finally said the correct number I programmed it to
be 4013.

Now I went to the CV number on the Lenz, checked it, to change some
numbers there. ( which apparently is the same as the binary in other
DCC systems ) and moved it to the main OP track. and tried to get
it to run, it didn't move at all. so I went back to the default
setting, and it just wants to run like its on a old Analog system
with the throttle almost full open.

That is where it confuses me to try to understand why. it also
happened to me when I used a Lenz decoder. everything is wired
correctly, track is separated from the program track. all leads are
correctly connected.

I even went so far as to reset the DCC control system to see if there
was a possible fault there too. but that didn't seem to do anything.

Thanks
Ray

Oh PS: yes I do understand that a Lenz is a simple system ( in
reflect to that other comment) but as I said, this don't seem to be
a normal thing. and I'm like a blind person walking down a rail, in
the dark.





--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

HI Ray
Have you gone back to the Programming Track (Not running
track) and
done a reset followed by changing the loco address to something
unique? If
the loco is on the Programming track it usually stutters a little
after
receiving the commands? Does it do this?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 16:48
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes I do, took me a bit to do it, but yea. I do. As I posted to
a
RE post, there is the info there of what im trying to do. and
confused I definatly am

Ray

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the
decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for
the
hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong
with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF
they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Yahoo! Groups Links






http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links





http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

hawkhawk22
 

John,

Yes Sir, I went and reset it, as that was easy to do. and when I
read the ADD of the loco it was the default 0003, so I changed it to
the number of the Loco. which was 4013. it did shutter, I did hear
it like it as doing something. but here is the thing that happened 2
times.

When I went back to read the address of the decoder to make sure that
it was correct. it Jumped like about 1/2 inch backwards. then came
up with a weird number like 3256 or something like that. then I re
checked it then it finally said the correct number I programmed it to
be 4013.

Now I went to the CV number on the Lenz, checked it, to change some
numbers there. ( which apparently is the same as the binary in other
DCC systems ) and moved it to the main OP track. and tried to get
it to run, it didn't move at all. so I went back to the default
setting, and it just wants to run like its on a old Analog system
with the throttle almost full open.

That is where it confuses me to try to understand why. it also
happened to me when I used a Lenz decoder. everything is wired
correctly, track is separated from the program track. all leads are
correctly connected.

I even went so far as to reset the DCC control system to see if there
was a possible fault there too. but that didn't seem to do anything.

Thanks
Ray

Oh PS: yes I do understand that a Lenz is a simple system ( in
reflect to that other comment) but as I said, this don't seem to be
a normal thing. and I'm like a blind person walking down a rail, in
the dark.





--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

HI Ray
Have you gone back to the Programming Track (Not running
track) and
done a reset followed by changing the loco address to something
unique? If
the loco is on the Programming track it usually stutters a little
after
receiving the commands? Does it do this?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 16:48
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes I do, took me a bit to do it, but yea. I do. As I posted to
a
RE post, there is the info there of what im trying to do. and
confused I definatly am

Ray

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the
decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for
the
hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong
with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF
they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Yahoo! Groups Links






http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

John Churchward <jcebay@...>
 

HI Ray
Have you gone back to the Programming Track (Not running track) and
done a reset followed by changing the loco address to something unique? If
the loco is on the Programming track it usually stutters a little after
receiving the commands? Does it do this?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 16:48
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


John,

Yes I do, took me a bit to do it, but yea. I do. As I posted to a
RE post, there is the info there of what im trying to do. and
confused I definatly am

Ray

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the
decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for the
hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links






http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Vollrath, Don <dvollrath@...>
 

You guys are re-explaining why the NCE DCC command station is so easy to use!
All that binary bit --> hex byte --> partial decimal stuff is moot when the English word prompt on the hand-heald asks for 'Long Addr = ??' etc.
You don't even need the decoder manual to get it to run!
DonV

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:45 AM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Marcus,

Thanks for the info. I went to see the CV 29 settings. and changed it
now it will not run with a conhtrol, so i re set it to the default
and it still runs by itself on the op track. so Ill try to expalin
to you more, so maybe you can help me more. LOL ( I feel like one
of those people who dont understand computers and have one tossed
into my lap, with a book to read to become a programer in 34 hours)
LOL

Anyways, here is the scoop on what I have. Ok As I said I have a
LH100 Lenz (I figured if I was going DCC to get the top of the line)
now, though I know it dont really make a diff with what engine it is
in, as long as I can actualy program , and read that the decoder is
ok, and I wired it correctly. so that is ok that way.

What I am using ( and I tried to read the manual for the decoder (it
is a NEC 13RSJ that I am tryinbg to use for this 4-8-8-4) now as I
said I tried to read it, it was talking bits and stuff. which I
guess that is for another DCC Station, but it has in a small section
about this.

================================================
Formula for computing the long address if using a Lenz SET01 or SET02:
If using a Lenz SET01, SET02, SET90, SET100 or other entry level
system, use paged programming
mode and see below for programming long addresses.
CV17 = 192 + (the whole number portion of the long address divided by
256)
CV18 = the remainder of the long address divided by 256
CV29 = 34 if analog mode disabled, 38 if analog mode enabled
================================================

To which I really get lost in the programing of the CV thingy. for
me there is no bits, its the CV bumber followed by a number. then
on the bottom row. Im guessing that it is the bit factor to get the
corect numbers to reach what I need. But I dont know.

Forgive me, but I am 45, and it seems like Im about 4 years old with
this stuff. I read and re read and re read, and just am
soooooooooooooooooooo lost. I hope someone can help me out.

Thanks in Advance
Ray


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Marcus Ammann" <mammann@o...>
wrote:

Hi Ray

A decoder will operate a loco using the default values that the
decoder
comes with from the manufacturers.

Install the loco and place the loco on the Program Track and check
to see if
it can read CVs. If it can, then wiring to the decoder is correct.

You only have to change the address from the default short address
of 3 to a
suitable address, usually road number with 4 digit addressing.

If you are having problems with the decoders in any loco, that
happens
sometimes, do a RESET of the decoder according to the instructions
and
remember when you go to run it after resetting, you will have to
address the
loco by the default 2 digit address of "3"

Get everything back to default values and have fun fine tuning your
decoder.
Remember, depending on what system you use and how it is done, you
may have
to adjust CV29 also. See your decoder and system manuals.

Hope you get them back to normal soon. If not, post again and tell
us
exactly what is happening.

Nothing should interfere with programming the decoder, like cell
phones, TV
etc.

Marcus



-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
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Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 7:18 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

hawkhawk22
 

John,

Yes I do, took me a bit to do it, but yea. I do. As I posted to a
RE post, there is the info there of what im trying to do. and
confused I definatly am

Ray

--- In WiringForDCC@..., "John Churchward" <jcebay@n...>
wrote:

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the
decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for the
hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

hawkhawk22
 

Marcus,

Thanks for the info. I went to see the CV 29 settings. and changed it
now it will not run with a conhtrol, so i re set it to the default
and it still runs by itself on the op track. so Ill try to expalin
to you more, so maybe you can help me more. LOL ( I feel like one
of those people who dont understand computers and have one tossed
into my lap, with a book to read to become a programer in 34 hours)
LOL

Anyways, here is the scoop on what I have. Ok As I said I have a
LH100 Lenz (I figured if I was going DCC to get the top of the line)
now, though I know it dont really make a diff with what engine it is
in, as long as I can actualy program , and read that the decoder is
ok, and I wired it correctly. so that is ok that way.

What I am using ( and I tried to read the manual for the decoder (it
is a NEC 13RSJ that I am tryinbg to use for this 4-8-8-4) now as I
said I tried to read it, it was talking bits and stuff. which I
guess that is for another DCC Station, but it has in a small section
about this.

================================================
Formula for computing the long address if using a Lenz SET01 or SET02:
If using a Lenz SET01, SET02, SET90, SET100 or other entry level
system, use paged programming
mode and see below for programming long addresses.
CV17 = 192 + (the whole number portion of the long address divided by
256)
CV18 = the remainder of the long address divided by 256
CV29 = 34 if analog mode disabled, 38 if analog mode enabled
================================================

To which I really get lost in the programing of the CV thingy. for
me there is no bits, its the CV bumber followed by a number. then
on the bottom row. Im guessing that it is the bit factor to get the
corect numbers to reach what I need. But I dont know.

Forgive me, but I am 45, and it seems like Im about 4 years old with
this stuff. I read and re read and re read, and just am
soooooooooooooooooooo lost. I hope someone can help me out.

Thanks in Advance
Ray


--- In WiringForDCC@..., "Marcus Ammann" <mammann@o...>
wrote:

Hi Ray

A decoder will operate a loco using the default values that the
decoder
comes with from the manufacturers.

Install the loco and place the loco on the Program Track and check
to see if
it can read CVs. If it can, then wiring to the decoder is correct.

You only have to change the address from the default short address
of 3 to a
suitable address, usually road number with 4 digit addressing.

If you are having problems with the decoders in any loco, that
happens
sometimes, do a RESET of the decoder according to the instructions
and
remember when you go to run it after resetting, you will have to
address the
loco by the default 2 digit address of "3"

Get everything back to default values and have fun fine tuning your
decoder.
Remember, depending on what system you use and how it is done, you
may have
to adjust CV29 also. See your decoder and system manuals.

Hope you get them back to normal soon. If not, post again and tell
us
exactly what is happening.

Nothing should interfere with programming the decoder, like cell
phones, TV
etc.

Marcus



-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On
Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 7:18 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders.
I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a
suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz
LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with
it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant
change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so
the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect
the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Turnouts and indicator boards

mundenbrian <mundenbrian@...>
 

Hi

I am new to model railways but have managed to lay my track controlled
by Guagemaster Prodigy Advance. My next step is to fit turnout motors
and also I wish make an indicator board using leds but can find no
information on wiring it all up. Would appreciate all the help I can get

Brian

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

John Churchward <jcebay@...>
 

Hi
Have you got the same number of throttle steps set in the decoder as
well as the hand set ie 128steps for the loco and 128 steps for the hand
set....john

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@...
[mailto:WiringForDCC@...]On Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: 04 January 2006 08:18
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???


Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders. I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





http://www.WiringForDCC.com
Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Marcus Ammann
 

Hi Ray

A decoder will operate a loco using the default values that the decoder
comes with from the manufacturers.

Install the loco and place the loco on the Program Track and check to see if
it can read CVs. If it can, then wiring to the decoder is correct.

You only have to change the address from the default short address of 3 to a
suitable address, usually road number with 4 digit addressing.

If you are having problems with the decoders in any loco, that happens
sometimes, do a RESET of the decoder according to the instructions and
remember when you go to run it after resetting, you will have to address the
loco by the default 2 digit address of "3"

Get everything back to default values and have fun fine tuning your decoder.
Remember, depending on what system you use and how it is done, you may have
to adjust CV29 also. See your decoder and system manuals.

Hope you get them back to normal soon. If not, post again and tell us
exactly what is happening.

Nothing should interfere with programming the decoder, like cell phones, TV
etc.

Marcus

-----Original Message-----
From: WiringForDCC@... [mailto:WiringForDCC@...] On
Behalf Of hawkhawk22
Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 7:18 PM
To: WiringForDCC@...
Subject: [WiringForDCC] I am going Nutz with decoders ???

Hey all, I am totally going crazy with programing these decoders. I
at first got it to work perfectly with the 4-8-8-4 then all of a suden
when i went to check the codes ( by the way I am using a Lenz LH100 )
on the loco, and then make sure that I didnt do anyting wrong with it,
I set it on a test (operational track) it runs and runs, cant change
anyting cant stop it without hitting the emergency stop button so the
track will go dead.

I just dont get it. let me ask just in case. Will anyting effect the
decoders operation? like Cell Phones? TV? or anyting else IF they
were close to the Programing, and operation track??

HELP befor I shoot myself LOL
Ray





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Yahoo! Groups Links







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