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Topics other than "track power"?

Jim Betz
 

Hi,
  Are questions related to wiring about things other than track power
(but still for DCC) appropriate for this group.  I'm talking about topics
like decoder wiring, switch machine wiring, layout lighting options,
detection wiring, etc.
                                                                                          - Jim


Re: Wiring For DCC Website Update

Jim Betz
 

Bill,
  Sometimes our email providers 'automatically' mark/reject emails from groups.io
because they -think- it is spam.  When that happens somehow groups.io knows it
happened and they mark your user for "having a problem" (or even remove you
from the group).
  Go back and make sure you have the correct "status" on a group by group
basis (by using the online interface to groups).  Especially check your "email
delivery options" to make sure they are right.
                                                                                                   - Jim


Re: Wiring For DCC Website Update

Donald Scharenbroch
 

Bill

I had the same problem. Check your Spam folder. the messages that I expected were there. There should be instructions on your missing messages on how to fix your problem.

Don

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On Friday, October 2, 2020, 11:23:19 AM EDT, mgj21932 via groups.io <mgj21932@...> wrote:


Allan,

For some reason (perhaps upgrading my Op. system?) since mid-Sept. I have not been receiving any messages from this group.  I hope that is not intentional, as I don’t believe I’ve broken any of the rules.  I have checked my Junk folder and the emails aren’t landing there.

Can you confirm that I am still registered?  If somehow I have inadvertently unsubscribed, please advise as how I can resubscribe.  This blog is immensely educational for a me as I return to the HO modeling hobby and the brave new world of DCC.  Your earlier blogs helped me understand AR wiring issues (and reduced my AR segments from half a dozen the two!).

Thanks,

Bill Demarest
mgj21932@...

P.S.  Same thing has happened with respect to the NCE DCC blog postings.




Re: Wiring For DCC Website Update

mgj21932
 

Allan,

For some reason (perhaps upgrading my Op. system?) since mid-Sept. I have not been receiving any messages from this group. I hope that is not intentional, as I don’t believe I’ve broken any of the rules. I have checked my Junk folder and the emails aren’t landing there.

Can you confirm that I am still registered? If somehow I have inadvertently unsubscribed, please advise as how I can resubscribe. This blog is immensely educational for a me as I return to the HO modeling hobby and the brave new world of DCC. Your earlier blogs helped me understand AR wiring issues (and reduced my AR segments from half a dozen the two!).

Thanks,

Bill Demarest
mgj21932@yahoo.com

P.S. Same thing has happened with respect to the NCE DCC blog postings.


Wiring For DCC Website Update

wirefordcc
 

I have added two new DCC Beginner topics to the website:

How many boosters do you need?  http://www.WiringForDCC.com/intro2dcc.htm#a47

Have an out of control loco that takes off going fast?  http://www.WiringForDCC.com/intro2dcc.htm#a46

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC


LokSound decoders

dave@...
 

I want to convert a Kato GP35 to DCC. I am interested in the LokSound decoders. I have read about the LockSound Select and the LokSound 5. Would anyone have an opinion on which would be the better choice? I have no intention of using the loco in DC mode. I just have a small DCC Layout.
Thank
DAK


Re: Frustration with DCC

Bill Wilken
 

To diagnose your problem, eliminate as many variables as possible.
First, use your DCC system to do a complete reset of your decoders,
presumptively on a programming track. Check your documentation to
verify how to do this to each loco and your DCC system. Second, hook
up your DCC controller to a short piece of test track. If just one
loco were running away, I would suspect that something is wrong with
the decoder ... that has happened to me. But if all are running away,
it is almost certain that you are not programming the locos properly.

On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 00:53 -0700, brianmulligan3@gmail.com wrote:
Locos all runaways when I programme them with Lenz LV 100 - fail to
respond to speed controls. Either express or nothing. Tried to fix
with dynamis - straight to express - any help - are all the decoders
wrecked?


Re: New to digital - advice required please!

thomasmclae
 

Andy,
Count on each Lok you run at the same time having 1 amp. 3 loks 3 amps, 5 Loks, 5 amps. Real usage is less, so you might get up to 5 loks on 3 amps, and more on 5 amps.
I strongly suggest you visit the JMRI.org page, and select a system that works well with JMRI. Makes it so much easier to set up decoders in Loks! (No fiddling around with CV numbers, JMRI is human readable)

For a new user, best to contact your mates running digital in your area, and see what they are using and it they can help.

Not sure what decoder brands Hornby uses (you did say OO guage) but on your side of the pond, popular brands might be Lenz, Loksound, or Zimo. 
Loksound and Zimo have sound decoders, quite complicates (germans!) but lots of features to learn.

The wiring could be the same as you used for DC, but you need less blocks, and no kill switches for sidings. You still need to be aware of polarity, but except for reversing loops, everything has the same polarity.
Plan for blocks if you are going to use signals, otherwise 2-3 blocks with boosters should do for that size layout.
Lots of folks use at least one booster, and do not connect their DCC system directly to the tracks. Better for the lesser price booster get zapped by a short than the high priced DCC system.

A good starting system would be the SPROG. Made in UK, controlled with a PC and JMRI. And reasonably priced. And you can use your smart phones as throttles (We do that at our club layout).

Good luck, and remember to have fun!
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

 


Re: Frustration with DCC

thomasmclae
 

I think LENZ has a programming track. Make sure you are programming each Lok on the programming track.
We used to do programming on the main with our club layout. Then one user accidently did program on the main in Blast mode. ALL Loks on the layout at the time were programmed the same address. Took some time to clean up!
We now have a separate programming station. Separate table. NO connection to the layout.

And there are programming features you need to be aware of when programming. Most new sound decoders are using 'indexed' cvs to manage the thousands of CVs. You need something like JMRI (or Lokprogrammer) to be sure you are programming the feature you expect, not some random wrong CV.  (Set CV31, set CV32, then read/write CV2xx)

It does make a difference what decoder brand and make you are programming. Please include that information.

And like Alan said in his post, turn off DC detection in CV29. WE had that issue too, Loks would start, stop, start, stop,.... the DCC system would confuse some decoders, and those loks were flipping between DC and DCC running.

Thomas
DeSoto, TX


Re: Frustration with DCC

wirefordcc
 

Do you have both a Dynamis and a Lenz system?  I'd focus on getting one system or the other working.  I take it you have never had either system working properly.  I can't say that I have a lot of experience with either.

I can say that it sounds like you have locomotives that are capable  of operating either DCC or DC.  It also sounds like you are not getting DCC power to your track.  When you don't have DCC on the track, a locomotive that can also run on DC will take off at full speed.  This is what it sounds like is happening to you.

Someone with experience with either system will need to help get it working properly. Finally, I don't think your decoders are damaged.  I would go into CV29 of each loco and disable the DC mode.  They won't run on DC when you do this, but they also won't take off at full speed on a DCC layout.

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC


Re: New to digital - advice required please!

wirefordcc
 

Hi Andy,

Have you seen my website?  http://www.wiringfordcc.com/

Be sure to read the section for beginners:  http://www.wiringfordcc.com/intro2dcc.htm

And the section on track wiring:  http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track.htm

How many trains is several?  If you are operating the layout yourself, you probably will only be operating 2 to 3 at a time.  A 5 amp booster will be more than enough.

No, the wiring does not need to be a continuous loop.  Again, read the section on track wiring.

Size doesn't necessitate more boosters.  When reading the track section, look at ways to branch out from your booster: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#c2

You can use DCC to control your turnouts switch machines if you want to, but you don't have to.  Your choice.  If you choose to use DCC, you won't need control panels.  Also, if you use DCC, you should either use a separate booster or use an electronic circuit breaker for your track when using just one booster so that if your track shorts out, because you approached a turnout with the points the wrong way.  For ideas on controlling turnouts see my website at:  http://www.wiringfordcc.com/sw_ctl.htm

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC


Frustration with DCC

brianmulligan3@...
 

Locos all runaways when I programme them with Lenz LV 100 - fail to respond to speed controls. Either express or nothing. Tried to fix with dynamis - straight to express - any help - are all the decoders wrecked?


New to digital - advice required please!

amcox@...
 

Hello, I have recently dismantled my non-digital OO Gauge model railway in order to build a new OO Gauge layout and converting Digital. I am not a novice to model railways but I am a novice to the world of digital model railways! My layout will be quite sizeable, a loop of 27ft x 13ft x 27ft x 13ft (using the loft area and operating the layout from the middle).

Would you please be able to offer any advice on which controller I would need to operate several trains at once, the required ampage (I have read 3 or 5 amp), size of wiring and does the wiring need to be a continuous loop? Because of the size of the layout , do I need any boosters etc? Does the controller also operate the points or would that need to be a standalone system? 

Many thanks in advance for any information that you can provide to get me going in the world of digital model railways! 

Best wishes, 

Andy


Re: Auto Reverse for Kato N scale turntable

Wil Davis
 

I don't have any experience with the Kato TT, but have wired two Peco and a couple of old ConCor TT for a friend's layout. 

As to the track reverser I just connected the tracks leading to the TT to the normal bus.  The reverser input is from the bus and the output wires go to the turntable track feeds.

The motor can be controlled by DC through a reversing switch or by a simple DCC motor controller. I used the headlight function connected to Red and Green LEDs which shows the direction the TT is set for.  Green = CW and Red = CCW.  That is totally independent of the track wiring and reverser, but we really like it as it is easy to control the rotation speed of the Turntable and stop it manually.

Wil


Auto Reverse for Kato N scale turntable

michael.reich1@...
 

good morning,

would like some help on wiring an auto reverse to a Kato N scale electric turntable...like, where to wire..from where to where.

thanks for the help.

Mike


Re: Block detection/wheel set resistors

Ed Sproles
 

Yes, that is what I do and it has worked fine.  I have probably made 500 resistor wheelsets for myself and at least that many for others.  mostly intermountain wheelsets with chip resistor across the insulating bushing.
Ed Sproles


Re: Wiring a Fast Tracks 90* crossing

David Klemm
 


Thanks Allan, that is my crossing. Years ago we collaborated on that page. 


David Klemm
11 PRO Max


From: w4dccqa@groups.io <w4dccqa@groups.io> on behalf of wirefordcc <bigboy@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:25
To: w4dccqa@groups.io
Subject: Re: [w4dccqa] Wiring a Fast Tracks 90* crossing
 
Here is the link to the discussions on crossings.  You will have to scroll down a few diagrams to get to the 90 deg crossing.

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#a53

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC


Re: Wiring a Fast Tracks 90* crossing

wirefordcc
 

Here is the link to the discussions on crossings.  You will have to scroll down a few diagrams to get to the 90 deg crossing.

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#a53

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC


Re: Wiring a Fast Tracks 90* crossing

Wil Davis
 

There is an explicit color coded diagram on where to wire and where to gap on Allan Gartner's Wring for DCC.

I printed a copy to use when wiring mine to a reverser.

Wil


Re: Block detection/wheel set resistors

Robert Morrison
 

Attached photo to test groups.io 
Rob

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