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Manual Reversing loop wiring

Tim Holmes <taholmes160@...>
 

Hi folks:

Is there an easy way to wire a manual section for a reversing loop for right now, till I get the automatic board for it?  Ive got new engines and cars, but no place to run them and would like to get something working temporarily till I can purchase the automatic reverser

thanks
TIM 
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Tim 

San Luis and Rio Grande

Dc switches on dcc layout

vincent marino
 

Can I install dc switches on a dcc layout? I just want to operate the switches manually not through the dcc system. 

Re: Dc switches on dcc layout

Mark Gurries
 

Posted by: Affordable Roofing Contractors <vmarino2009@...>
On May 19, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Affordable Roofing Contractors vmarino2009@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

Can I install dc switches on a dcc layout? I just want to operate the switches manually not through the dcc system.
Yes you can. Building a DC layout does not force you to change how you control turnouts.

How you control turnouts is independent of how you control trains.

Best Regards,

Mark Gurries
Electrical Engineer
DCC Website & NMRA DCC Clinics: www.markgurries.com

Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

Kurt Konrath
 

Others may have better idea but if you isolate the loop track which would be needed in future anyway. You then simply add a manual toggle switch. A Double Throw Double Pole DPDT center off style (on/off/on) and cross wires on back with center leads going to loop track

Then you flip the switch as needed!

Manual version of automatic systems

Kurt K


On May 19, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Tim Holmes taholmes160@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:

 

Hi folks:

Is there an easy way to wire a manual section for a reversing loop for right now, till I get the automatic board for it?  Ive got new engines and cars, but no place to run them and would like to get something working temporarily till I can purchase the automatic reverser

thanks
TIM 
--

Tim 

San Luis and Rio Grande

Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

 

What sort of turnouts control the loop.  If you are already using a toggle switch you can get one with two extra poles and directly control the polarity and the aligning switch at the same time.  No need to purchase expensive electronics at all.

Best,
Ken Harstine
Holyoke, MA

Change of email address.

Donald Gale <hetmandon84@...>
 

 I would like to inform you of a change in my email address. My new address is:
    hetmandon84@...
  I enjoy reading the threads in your group. And I would like to thank you for the work you all do in hosting this group.
 Sincerely,
 Don Gale.

Manual wiring for Reverse Loop

Jerry Kramer
 

I use KATO Unitrack using their power routing setting on their switches.
The package shows wiring diagram for a loop wiring for both power routing and non-power routing switch selection.

Jerry Kramer
Willamette Regional Railway
"Where Southern Pacific bought out UP -The way it should of been"
Sent from XFINITY Connect Application

Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

Tom O Hara
 

I am in favor of toggle switches. Just make sure that it is a "break before make" style or a center-off style so that you can't have the new direction and old polarity at the same time.

....Tom

Re: Change of email address.

whmvd
 

Hi Don,

Notifying the group in this way achieves nothing. You need to update your Yahoo subscription and all will be well.

WOuter

On 25 May 2018 at 13:43, Donald Gale hetmandon84@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 

 I would like to inform you of a change in my email address. My new address is:
  I enjoy reading the threads in your group. And I would like to thank you for the work you all do in hosting this group.
 Sincerely,
 Don Gale.


Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

 

Do they make toggles that are not break before make?  Rotary switches are made this way but I am not aware of toggle switches and I have been an electronics technician and engineer for 40 years.  Some kind of circuit protection so that the loop is shut down if a train bridges the loop is still a good idea as folks are known to run turnouts.  If the toggle controls the turnout that feeds the loop then a train should never bridge the turnout and therefore the loop when it is thrown.  On my layout I am using a relay that is controlled by the same computerized remote control that controls my turnout.  The change is completely seamless even when the train is in motion on the loop.  I do use my own low cost automatic fuses (www.voltscooter.com) to protect the loop.

Best,

Ken Harstine

Re: Change of email address.

Donald Gale <hetmandon84@...>
 

  didn't see anywhere to do it. So could you please enlighten me?



From: "Wouter van Doorn vandoornw@... [WiringForDCC]"
To: WiringForDCC@...
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WiringForDCC] Change of email address.

 
Hi Don,

Notifying the group in this way achieves nothing. You need to update your Yahoo subscription and all will be well.

WOuter

On 25 May 2018 at 13:43, Donald Gale hetmandon84@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 
 I would like to inform you of a change in my email address. My new address is:
  I enjoy reading the threads in your group. And I would like to thank you for the work you all do in hosting this group.
 Sincerely,
 Don Gale.



Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

dvollrath@...
 

Ken, I have never seen a toggle switch purposely made to make before break. Slide and rotary switches can be made that way. But I have seen multi-pole toggle switches where there is an offset in the throw mechanism where one pole flips before the others. To prevent the possibility of a timing/position offset causing a short... Connect the center moving OUTPUT side (switch roller/wiper) contacts to the load, and the cross-wired INPUT side from the source. Then at worst both wires to the track load might be momentarily connected to the same polarity rather than causing a short circuit on the DCC/power source.

DonV 

Re: Manual Reversing loop wiring

Tom O Hara
 

My poor phrasing. With multiple pole switches, one pole can make before another pole breaks. I have no idea if it's common, but I would be aware of the possibility. 

On slide types of switches, like in the old Atlas controllers and the Tortoise machines, it can definitely happen. I've encountered both. Obviously, these are not toggle switches, so the comparison is not really justified. 

.....Tom

Re: Change of email address.

whmvd
 

It's literally years since I needed to do anything on Yahoo (thank heavens), but what you need to do is log in there (obviously using your existing email subscription) and go to your settings (whatever they are called there, I really don't know). Can't be more helpful/detailed, sorry. But that IS the only way.

Wouter

On 26 May 2018 at 16:25, Donald Gale hetmandon84@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 

  didn't see anywhere to do it. So could you please enlighten me?



From: "Wouter van Doorn vandoornw@... [WiringForDCC]" <WiringForDCC@...>
To: WiringForDCC@...
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WiringForDCC] Change of email address.

 
Hi Don,

Notifying the group in this way achieves nothing. You need to update your Yahoo subscription and all will be well.

WOuter

On 25 May 2018 at 13:43, Donald Gale hetmandon84@... [WiringForDCC] <WiringForDCC@...> wrote:
 
 I would like to inform you of a change in my email address. My new address is:
  I enjoy reading the threads in your group. And I would like to thank you for the work you all do in hosting this group.
 Sincerely,
 Don Gale.




Re: Change of email address.

robert leslie
 

Look at any incoming message.   At the very bottom of the page it says in a hyperlink "Visit your group"

Visit and change your email address.

Bob Leslie 

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member?

Greg Harter
 

I trust that the emails I've received mean I'm a current member of the new group.

Once I have confirmation, I'll send  an email about a shorting problem I have.

Thanks.

Greg Harter

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Re: WiringForDCC Transfer

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All,

 

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Re: member?

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From: w4dccqa@groups.io <w4dccqa@groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Harter
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:37 AM
To: w4dccqa@groups.io
Subject: [w4dccqa] member?

 

I trust that the emails I've received mean I'm a current member of the new group.

 

Once I have confirmation, I'll send  an email about a shorting problem I have.

 

Thanks.

 

Greg Harter