Belgium language


Regine Brindle
 

Yes, you should contact Jose ...  This is what he has been working on for some time and wanted to reach the Wisconsin Belgians.

Jose, peux-tu les aider ? Il faut contacter Rebecca Derenne à belgianheritagecenter.org

Régine


On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 1:52, Steve Lampereur
<kb9mwr@...> wrote:
Sadly there hasn't been as much progress on the orthography here in Wisconsin as we had hoped. Kelly Biers work has been slow and our numbers of Walloon speakers are sadly dwindling.

Some discussion this evening was centered around trying to find someone (else) who could help document the recordings of words / phrases we have using the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)..  And then writing a grant to help this happen.  Is there is anyone in Belgium who might be able to help?

Please email the belgianheritagecenter.org and ask Rebecca Derenne if you can help, she can give you a good run down of where we are at etc.

Thanks
Steve Lampereur






Steve Lampereur
 

Sadly there hasn't been as much progress on the orthography here in Wisconsin as we had hoped. Kelly Biers work has been slow and our numbers of Walloon speakers are sadly dwindling.

Some discussion this evening was centered around trying to find someone (else) who could help document the recordings of words / phrases we have using the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA).. And then writing a grant to help this happen. Is there is anyone in Belgium who might be able to help?

Please email the belgianheritagecenter.org and ask Rebecca Derenne if you can help, she can give you a good run down of where we are at etc.

Thanks
Steve Lampereur


Regine Brindle
 

Thank you!
Jose will be interested in seeing this.
Rgeine

On Monday, February 15, 2021, 12:02:37 AM EST, Steve Lampereur <kb9mwr@...> wrote:


Here is another update (Jan 2021) on the Wisconsin Walloon project of Kelly Biers:







Steve Lampereur
 

Here is another update (Jan 2021) on the Wisconsin Walloon project of Kelly Biers:

https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/24968


Steve Lampereur
 

Since I didn't make any of the meetings when Kelly Biers was interviewing members of the Peninsula Belgian American Club/Belgian Heritage Center, I don't really know if he has many Walloon language contacts outside of Wisconsin.
(When it made the TV news it caught my attention... this was the news clip: https://archive.org/details/PreservingWalloonWisconsinsLostLanguage

José or Lucien, you might want to reach out to him:

https://www.unca.edu/person/kelly-biers-ph-d/

Does anyone know more about this paper that he references? I'd read it if it was somewhat easily available, but I also suspect it might be written in French?
Colet, Eric. 1982. Le parler Wallon du Wisconsin: Aspects phonétiques, lexicaux, morphologiques et syntaxiques. Université Catholique de Louvain.


Regine Brindle
 

Great idea Lucien!
Merci José!  Je viens juste de trouver les messages.
Sounds like this would be a good plan to add the Wisconsin spelling to the site and have a way to compare the way the two were influenced by the different environments.
Good luck!!!
Regine


On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 11:36, Mahin Lucien
<lucyin53@...> wrote:
I can help if necessary. But orthography is a very very time-consuming item !!!!!

An idea would be to add Wisconsin orthography in Walloon Wiktionary. Let us try with "cåler"
https://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/c%C3%A5ler (a word not used in Wallonia, but reported by Lucien Léonard in the  1980th.

Le lun. 6 avr. 2020 à 06:39, José Schoovaerts <djozewal@...> a écrit :
Yes, Régine, I am still here 😉 but I am transfering  this demand to Lucien Mahin. He Is working, since a lot of years, on that and managing the wa.wikipedia and on a commune orthography.
Il sera beaucoup plus utile et efficace que moi.
Good luck and work.
Take care of You, tenez-vous loin du Codip19
José

Le lun. 6 avr. 2020 à 07:23, Regine Brindle <babette602001@...> a écrit :
He needs to talk to Jose.  He has focused on Walloon. Keep in mind there are many dialects. The one preserved in Wisconsin is unique.
Jose has continued to advocate for Walloon the way others advocate for Flemish.
Jose has for about 20 years now pressed the use of Walloon, in cartoons, and other art forms. 
He would sure enjoy participating in this.
Jose, are you there?
Regine


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 23:17, Steve Lampereur via groups.io
<kb9mwr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here is a Wisconsin update.

Professor Kelly D. Biers (University of North Carolina) plans to create a Wisconsin Walloon primer that will be easily accessible to the Wisconsin Belgian community.  The primer will include basic information about the language and essential words and phrases which will allow current and  future community members to understand, practice and thereby preserve a record of their language.  The project involves the development of an orthography and content for the primer, involving native speakers in the  creation and editing of materials, and dissemination online and in print.  Much of this process is already underway and has received enthusiastic support from community members and organizations.

He started is research of the language in 2015, and he just recently published a 10 page paper by titled: "Quantity-to-Quality Contrast Shift and Phonemic Merger in Wisconsin Walloon High Front Vowels "




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Regine Brindle
 

He needs to talk to Jose.  He has focused on Walloon. Keep in mind there are many dialects. The one preserved in Wisconsin is unique.
Jose has continued to advocate for Walloon the way others advocate for Flemish.
Jose has for about 20 years now pressed the use of Walloon, in cartoons, and other art forms. 
He would sure enjoy participating in this.
Jose, are you there?
Regine


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 23:17, Steve Lampereur via groups.io
<kb9mwr@...> wrote:
Here is a Wisconsin update.

Professor Kelly D. Biers (University of North Carolina) plans to create a Wisconsin Walloon primer that will be easily accessible to the Wisconsin Belgian community.  The primer will include basic information about the language and essential words and phrases which will allow current and  future community members to understand, practice and thereby preserve a record of their language.  The project involves the development of an orthography and content for the primer, involving native speakers in the  creation and editing of materials, and dissemination online and in print.  Much of this process is already underway and has received enthusiastic support from community members and organizations.

He started is research of the language in 2015, and he just recently published a 10 page paper by titled: "Quantity-to-Quality Contrast Shift and Phonemic Merger in Wisconsin Walloon High Front Vowels "





Steve Lampereur
 

Here is a Wisconsin update.

Professor Kelly D. Biers (University of North Carolina) plans to create a Wisconsin Walloon primer that will be easily accessible to the Wisconsin Belgian community. The primer will include basic information about the language and essential words and phrases which will allow current and future community members to understand, practice and thereby preserve a record of their language. The project involves the development of an orthography and content for the primer, involving native speakers in the creation and editing of materials, and dissemination online and in print. Much of this process is already underway and has received enthusiastic support from community members and organizations.

He started is research of the language in 2015, and he just recently published a 10 page paper by titled: "Quantity-to-Quality Contrast Shift and Phonemic Merger in Wisconsin Walloon High Front Vowels "

http://www.lingref.com/cpp/wila/9/paper3483.pdf


Nicki Williams (Chamberlain) nic3ki
 

If you are interested....It's dutch, not Flemish, but maybe one of these will help.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=%22dutch+dictionary%22&ref=nb_sb_noss_2


Steve Lampereur
 

Kevin,
Here in Wisconsin there has been some efforts to create a written version of Walloon.

https://www.uwec.edu/news/news/blugold-research-team-strives-to-save-a-dying-language-627/

A book will be published, but its a ways off.


Mary Yoho
 

I would agree that there is no flemish/belgian language.  My family spoke french.  It was the tying language when they married into a French-Canadian family.  My family came from the Namur area and Ould Heverlee, Heverlee area and Bierbeek,  Haasrode, and Blanden area


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:13 PM Kevin Bouche via Groups.Io <kjbouche=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,

I guess wallon/ Flemish would be the language parents used. Does anyone have a translation book on that? 

Kevin


On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Regine Brindle via Groups.Io <babette602001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hello,
There is no "Belgian" language.
In Belgium, the languages spoken officially are Dutch, French and German.
Familysearch has a word book that might help.
It's on their wiki
What part of Belgium are you researching?
Regine Brindle



On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 7:36:15 PM EST, kjbouche via Groups.Io <kjbouche=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Any one have a Belgium language book, on how to learn the language? 



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Sincerely yours,
 
 
Mary Yoho


Kevin Bouche
 

Hello,

I guess wallon/ Flemish would be the language parents used. Does anyone have a translation book on that? 

Kevin


On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Regine Brindle via Groups.Io <babette602001@...> wrote:


Hello,
There is no "Belgian" language.
In Belgium, the languages spoken officially are Dutch, French and German.
Familysearch has a word book that might help.
It's on their wiki
What part of Belgium are you researching?
Regine Brindle



On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 7:36:15 PM EST, kjbouche via Groups.Io <kjbouche@...> wrote:


Any one have a Belgium language book, on how to learn the language? 


Nicki Williams (Chamberlain) nic3ki
 

Antwerp, where my mother was born, speaks flemish (dutch).  My 2nd cousin who still lives in Brussels speaks French.  So it depends on where you are at.


Guy Gallez
 

A brief history of the languages spoken in Belgium at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Belgium

Guy Gallez


Regine Brindle
 

Hello,
There is no "Belgian" language.
In Belgium, the languages spoken officially are Dutch, French and German.
Familysearch has a word book that might help.
It's on their wiki
What part of Belgium are you researching?
Regine Brindle



On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 7:36:15 PM EST, kjbouche via Groups.Io <kjbouche@...> wrote:


Any one have a Belgium language book, on how to learn the language? 


Kevin Bouche
 

Any one have a Belgium language book, on how to learn the language?