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Re: 2022 Clue #1

Allison Wonderland
 

I suppose so. I was trying to think if you could go that far from White Bear and still be in St. Paul but didn't have time to check. But apparently not.


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 9:55 AM, nate roub
<Nprarmy11@...> wrote:
With that thinking it would be south metro to get to 26.2 miles

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 9:31 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
So I wonder if fresh treasure means a new location? Or one that has been recently renovated? Maybe the marathon means it is 26 miles away from where it was last year?

David B. Allison


On Saturday, January 22, 2022, 08:13:19 AM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


From delta to omicron, what a marathon
Getting from last year to this
Strap on your mask, get down to the task
Let fresh treasure be your bliss


Re: 2022 Clue #1

nate roub
 

With that thinking it would be south metro to get to 26.2 miles


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 9:31 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
So I wonder if fresh treasure means a new location? Or one that has been recently renovated? Maybe the marathon means it is 26 miles away from where it was last year?

David B. Allison


On Saturday, January 22, 2022, 08:13:19 AM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


From delta to omicron, what a marathon
Getting from last year to this
Strap on your mask, get down to the task
Let fresh treasure be your bliss


Re: 2022 Clue #1

Allison Wonderland
 

So I wonder if fresh treasure means a new location? Or one that has been recently renovated? Maybe the marathon means it is 26 miles away from where it was last year?

David B. Allison


On Saturday, January 22, 2022, 08:13:19 AM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland@...> wrote:


From delta to omicron, what a marathon
Getting from last year to this
Strap on your mask, get down to the task
Let fresh treasure be your bliss


2022 Clue #1

Allison Wonderland
 

From delta to omicron, what a marathon
Getting from last year to this
Strap on your mask, get down to the task
Let fresh treasure be your bliss


Re: 2022 Treasure Hunt

Allison Wonderland
 

I apologize as I have been quite busy getting ready for the Winter Carnival (remember, the reason for the season! lol) and also sick on and off since Christmas. But I guess time is up as Clue 1 is out! So yes, we will do what we always do here although I will probably remain a bit distracted.


Re: 2022 Treasure Hunt

Peeko03
 

I vote here too

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From: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io> on behalf of Jennifer Matthews <scrolty@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 6:59:58 PM
To: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [theallisonwonderland] 2022 Treasure Hunt
 
I vote here!


"I always get to where I am going, by walking away from where I have been"
~Winnie the Pooh. 


From: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io> on behalf of alfabob1@... <alfabob1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 6:50 PM
To: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io>
Subject: [theallisonwonderland] 2022 Treasure Hunt
 
Hi David,
Will you be posting on here for the upcoming Treasure Hunt, or does everyone get their info from the PP Treasure Hunt Facebook page now?


Re: 2022 Treasure Hunt

Jennifer Matthews
 

I vote here!


"I always get to where I am going, by walking away from where I have been"
~Winnie the Pooh. 


From: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io> on behalf of alfabob1@... <alfabob1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 6:50 PM
To: theallisonwonderland@groups.io <theallisonwonderland@groups.io>
Subject: [theallisonwonderland] 2022 Treasure Hunt
 
Hi David,
Will you be posting on here for the upcoming Treasure Hunt, or does everyone get their info from the PP Treasure Hunt Facebook page now?


2022 Treasure Hunt

@alfabob
 

Hi David,
Will you be posting on here for the upcoming Treasure Hunt, or does everyone get their info from the PP Treasure Hunt Facebook page now?


Clue Explanations

Allison Wonderland
 

Clue #1

Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.

Following a hunt unprecedented.

Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely

Maybe now you are disoriented?

 

So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.

Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.

Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.

As some grass is a thing best to avoid.

 

Since it was at College Park there were some collegiate references here such as “ACT”, “SAT”, and “study”. “Unprecedented referred to the fact this park has not been used before in either the Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt or the Pioneer Press Medallion Hunt. To “orient” something literally means to face it to the east. So being disoriented would suggest looking in a western park. “The lawn” in question is an area on the St. Paul U of M campus called “The Lawn”. If you study an arial map you will see it has two sidewalks that come together to form an arrow that points right at nearby College Park. But The Lawn is not where the treasure is. Nor is it in the grass at College Park.

 

Clue #2

If you go wander both to and yonder

You might find a bench good for relaxing.

Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide,

As analyzing these clues is taxing.

 

This is letting you know that the park has benches, which are a fairly prominent feature at College Park. It is also next to a church named St. Matthew’s. Matthew had been a tax collector prior to becoming an apostle.

 

Clue #3

When the ground is slick the trip will be quick

To the icy bottom from up on top.

Or in a warmer time the kids can still climb

And use a slide to make a lesser drop.

 

This is referring to the topology of the park where kids can slide down into the park in the winter. It also alludes to the playground which has a slide.

 

Clue #4

A neighborly park with plenty of bark

Is a scenic spot for hunters to meet.

When looking map-wise, questioning the size,

You won’t see it on both sides of a street.

 

This park is not only a neighborhood park, it literally has next door neighbors that share the block with it. The bark refers to the many trees in the park. The last part of the clue just tells you the park is confined to one block.

 

Clue #5

An old bearded man came here with a plan

To beautify every city shoreline.

He did some streets too, land around the zoo,

Now my coin’s in a park of his design.

 

Horace Cleveland and his beard moved to MN when he was 72 to work for the city of Minneapolis designing parks and parkways. The city of St. Paul got him to work for them too where he designed four of our major parks including Como. But he also designed the neighborhood of St. Anthony Park where College Park is located. Cleveland is also a street very nearby.

 

Clue #6

Maybe bring a treat, there’s nowhere to eat,

And not a single restaurant in sight.

Better come for sports where scouting reports

Say only balls that bounce will be alright.

 

This clue alludes to the fact that there are no picnic tables in the park, nor can you see any restaurants from the park. There are tennis courts and basketball courts which both involve bouncing a ball. But there are no baseball or football fields, where you typically don’t bounce the ball. It also hints that the area with the courts will be better than the rest of the park in your search.

 

Clue #7

The street corner’s light, sufficiently bright,

Is about the only thing with power.

Hunting in the day seems a better way,

But you might find you have only an hour.

 

This is telling you that it’s a largely rustic park with the street lights being the only electric thing in the park. It also subtly hints at the fact that the park has only one true street corner (another corner is private homes and the other two corners have a trail on one side, not a street). Also, one of the street lights is very near the treasure and has a 1 hour parking sign on it.

 

Clue #8

You think you’ve done well, but how can you tell?

Is it possible that you’ve all been pwned?

You should find a park that’s within a park,

And has three guys who are forever stoned.

 

“Done well” is an allusion to “Doswell”, a street that borders the park. College Park is within St. Anthony Park. The park also has three large boulders each dedicated to a different man, thus leaving them forever “stoned”.

 

Clue #9

Two streets adjacent, but not subjacent,

Lead all the way to the city’s border.

The third you can’t see. Can I afford three?

Yet it’s the fourth that’s highest in order.

 

Doswell and Carter both border the park, but are above most of the park and thus not subjacent (implying the park is something of a valley). If you follow those streets west, they basically touch the border of St. Paul. The third street, Chelmsford (“a ford”), shows on Google maps but isn’t really there. The fourth street, Raymond, is the one closest to the treasure. Also a hint to look “high” as the treasure is both off the ground and on the highest land in the park.

 

Clue #10

Searching high and low, but which way to go?

The answer will be to keep your head up.

You ought to refrain going down the drain

And this might be easy as a lay-up.

 

Another reference to the terrain of the park. Keeping your head up suggests to look off the ground and to look on the high ground of the park. Stay away from the area with the big drainage structure. Instead the treasure is found very near one of the basketball nets.

 

Clue #11

If feeling foiled and a bit roiled,

Then maybe seek the treasure by degrees.

Be ever on guard for this test is hard,

But a well-done lunge can make it a breeze.

 

“Foil”, “On guard”, and “lunge” are all fencing terms, indicating that the treasure is hidden on a fence. “Degrees” and “test” should clear up the park for any remaining doubters.

 

Clue #12

Time to graduate and go seize your fate.

Raymond will prove a great mentor to you.

Things are looking up, take hold of the cup,

Tearing down fences is the thing to do.

 

“Graduate” again implies College Park. Raymond is the street along which the treasure lies. One should look up and take ahold of the cup-like cap sitting on the fence that holds the medallion.


The Medallion Has Been Found!

Allison Wonderland
 

The Allison Wonderland medallion has been found! It was found at College Park around 7:30pm I believe by Steven Sanftner. It was hidden on a fence post on the fence around the basketball court along Raymond Ave. Steven was registered and will receive the full prize.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #6

Allison Wonderland
 

Here is the new clue:
 
Clue #6
Maybe bring a treat, there’s nowhere to eat,
And not a single restaurant in sight.
Best to come for sports where scouting reports
Say only balls that bounce will be alright.
 
And the previous clues:
 
Clue #5
An old bearded man came here with a plan
To beautify every city shoreline.
He did some streets too, land around the zoo,
Now my coin’s in a park of his design.
 
Clue #4
A neighborly park with plenty of bark
Is a scenic spot for hunters to meet.
When looking map-wise, questioning the size,
You won’t see it on both sides of a street.
 
Clue #3
When the ground is slick the trip will be quick
To the icy bottom from up on top.
In a warmer time the kids can still climb
And use sand to bring their slide to a stop.
 
Clue #2
If you go wander both to and yonder
You might find a bench good for relaxing.
Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide,
As analyzing these clues is taxing.
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #5

Allison Wonderland
 

Here is the new clue:
 
Clue #5
An old bearded man came here with a plan
To beautify every city shoreline.
He did some streets too, land around the zoo,
Now my coin’s in a park of his design.
 
And the previous clues:
 
Clue #4
A neighborly park with plenty of bark
Is a scenic spot for hunters to meet.
When looking map-wise, questioning the size,
You won’t see it on both sides of a street.
 
Clue #3
When the ground is slick the trip will be quick
To the icy bottom from up on top.
In a warmer time the kids can still climb
And use sand to bring their slide to a stop.
 
Clue #2
If you go wander both to and yonder
You might find a bench good for relaxing.
Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide,
As analyzing these clues is taxing.
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #4

Allison Wonderland
 

Here is the new clue:
 
Clue #4
A neighborly park with plenty of bark
Is a scenic spot for hunters to meet.
When looking map-wise, questioning the size,
You won’t see it on both sides of a street.
 
And the previous clues:
 
Clue #3
When the ground is slick the trip will be quick
To the icy bottom from up on top.
In a warmer time the kids can still climb
And use sand to bring their slide to a stop.
 
Clue #2
If you go wander both to and yonder
You might find a bench good for relaxing.
Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide,
As analyzing these clues is taxing.
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #3

Allison Wonderland
 

Here is the new clue:
 
Clue #3
When the ground is slick the trip will be quick
To the icy bottom from up on top.
In a warmer time the kids can still climb
And use sand to bring their slide to a stop.
 
And the previous clues:
 
Clue #2
If you go wander both to and yonder
You might find a bench good for relaxing.
Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide,
As analyzing these clues is taxing.
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #2

Allison Wonderland
 

Here is the new clue:
 
Clue #2
If you go wander both to and yonder
You might find a bench good for relaxing.
Or if you’re brain-fried, let faith be a guide, 
As analyzing these clues is taxing.
 
And the previous clue:
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


2021 The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Part 2) Clue #1

Allison Wonderland
 

The Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt (Take 2) is now officially underway. Up to 12 clues, one per day. The hunt goes until either the medallion is found or the hunt is considered FUBAR. If you were registered for the first one, you will also be registered for this one and are eligible for the full $250 prize.
 
Remember the medallion will not be hidden on a body of water, up a tree, on top of a building, inside anything electrical, indoors, inside anything electrical, on a steep incline, anywhere ruled out in the Pioneer Press hunt, or anywhere that should make you question if looking there is really a good idea.
 
Clue #1
Having kept our pact, it’s my turn to act.
Following a hunt unprecedented.
Since I sat idly, while Jake grinned snidely
Maybe now you are disoriented?
 
So my hunt begins just as the snow thins.
Thus other hiding methods I’ve employed.
Go study the lawn, watch your step thereon.
As some grass is a thing best to avoid.


Re: Scavenger Hunts

Allison Wonderland
 

Actually the titles were meant to give you a clue if I thought the clue itself was too obscure. I wasn't sure how hard the clues should be though I definitely underestimated people by thinking there was a possibility no team would solve all of them.

Spacing out the clues is a thought. The only downside would be if someone was available the first weekend but not the second for example.


On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 9:04 PM, crmood@...
<crmood@...> wrote:
I have a thought of how to make it last longer....what If all clues weren't released on the first day? Of possible eith the app, a timed release of say 5 clues each day? It could last for the whole festival and people could participate leisurely for most of it besides the day of the final clues.  Also, sometimes the titles of the clues gave away a lot, your clues would have been much harder without the titles I think. We had  a ton of fun and appreciate all the work you put into this! 


Re: Scavenger Hunts

crmood@...
 

I have a thought of how to make it last longer....what If all clues weren't released on the first day? Of possible eith the app, a timed release of say 5 clues each day? It could last for the whole festival and people could participate leisurely for most of it besides the day of the final clues.  Also, sometimes the titles of the clues gave away a lot, your clues would have been much harder without the titles I think. We had  a ton of fun and appreciate all the work you put into this! 


Re: Scavenger Hunts

Allison Wonderland
 

It would change things a bit but not fundamentally solve the problem. It would just mean the first team to solve all the missions would win and there would still be no chance for anyone else to win after that. This year it still would have been essentially over after 6 hours, we just would have had a different winner. And if no team had gotten them all, then no one would have gotten the tiebreaker either 

The goal is to make it so that people can take the whole 10 days and still have a shot at winning up to the last day, without it just being random.


On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 6:54 PM, Peeko03
<Peeko03@...> wrote:
David, I believe a simple solution is that the tie breaker cannot be done until you've solved all of the other clues. By doing this you also keep people from sweeping more than one category as well. 


Re: Scavenger Hunts

Peeko03
 

David, I believe a simple solution is that the tie breaker cannot be done until you've solved all of the other clues. By doing this you also keep people from sweeping more than one category as well. 

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