On Nov 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bryan R. <bross138@...> wrote:

Thanks James.  Absolutely will stay in touch.  Hopefully by spring I'll be ready to come roaring back!  Thanks again all for the well wishes.
Bryan 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 6:55 AM, Forrest Erickson <forresterickson@...> wrote:



Dave,

Regarding, "... invite my Civil Air Patrol"   You probable need to clarify more.

In the past we have had a few people tag along with us telescope operators and it caused problems.

The park service wants to minimize the visibility of cars on the observing field. They are breaking their own rule to allow us to do this so they only wanted cars there that were transporting telescopes. And we once had persons in a car with out a scope who thoght they could leave any time. That is not the case. The road is not free for us to travel.  The park service is our host and we must keep these concerns in mind.

If it is to simply participate in viewing then the cadets should be told to participate just like members of the public who will gather at the loop road enterance at a time I know not and walk down to the event.

Hope this helps.

Lee

On 10/25/2022 6:41 AM Dave Wells <david.d.wells1963@...> wrote:

Hi James, I plan to attend. I would like to invite my Civil Air Patrol unit as well as some of the neighboring units (Oak Ridge, Sevierville, and Maryville) but would not expect more than 10 to 20 cadets in total (if that) who would be able to attend. Would this be possible?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:48 PM Group Notification <noreply@groups.io> wrote:

Cade's Cove Star Party (Tentative Option)

When:
Saturday, November 5, 2022
5:00pm to 10:00pm
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

Where:
Cade's Cove, GSMNP

Organizer: James Cantiu james.cantu@... 865-405-2492

View Event

Description:

Cades Cove Star Party Plan

Saturday, November 5, 2022 (no backup date, but potential Spring event)

 

Please understand the park is trying to not get overwhelmed. 

See notes below on parking, communications, and marketing.

 

Background

The Cades Cove Star Party has not occurred in several years. Scheduling this year has been challenging for several reasons due to volunteer limitations, calendar/conflict limitations, and even GSMNP ranger staffing limitations. This fall we only have one date fully feasible (Nov 5^th). This will be only a few days before the new moon, so DSOs will be limited unless they are bright and contrasty. Many have encouraged us to do the best we can and realize that the public can and will be quite amazed by lunar and planetary opportunities. We can promote near events (such as the Nov 8^th lunar eclipse), equipment, and other learning opportunities. Please note we may be competing with the Georgia/Tennessee football game (@ GA 3:30PM- ~7:30PM Eastern) for attention, and that game will likely draw a huge audience. 

We have no idea what attendance will be, but volunteers are likely to be fewer than some of our previous years. In short, I am confident that we can provide a great experience for those that join us, and I’ve been encouraged by the enthusiasm of those prepared/preparing to participate. 

Some changes: We anticipate keeping this event as simple as possible. We will not have the traditional potluck. Perhaps at a future date, but for now, as we are re-emerging, let’s keep it simple. If you wish to bring a meal/snacks, bring whatever you can for yourself, but we are unlikely to setup a shared banquet area for food. In terms of health and hygiene, masking is at the discretion of the individual. Please take whatever precautions are appropriate for you.  

Potential objects for viewing

·      Moon

·      Planets

o   Jupiter 

o   Saturn 

o   Uranus (too low) 

o   Neptune (near Jupiter; west of Jupiter, but would probably require an ephemeris to locate)

·      Bright Globular Clusters

·      Open clusters

·      Asterisms

·      Andromeda Galaxy? (Possibly unlikely due to moon)

Other things

·      Naked eye objects/targets

o   Constellations

o   Large Asterisms

o   Cherokee Sky Lore

·      Lunar eclipse November 8^th

·      Equipment (different types: binos, scopes, lasers, finders, etc.)

·      Satellites

·      Artemis Launch November 14^th

·      Talking about light pollution. Pointing out Gatlinburg or other nearby sources and how they affect the horizon. Methods to minimize.

·      The GSMNP does not systematically talk about light pollution. It may come up incidentally with some programs. 

 

Timing (confirmed)

·      5:00 meet in parking lot. 

·      5:15/5:30 line up and drive to field under ranger escort ~0.25-0.33 miles.  

·      Rangers to be at the parking lot Orientation Shelter around 5:30 to greet guests. 

·      Sunset ~6:36p. Gates will close. Vehicle traffic prohibited at this point. 

·      The public guests may be allowed to walk down (after gates close). The park does not think it practical to hold them. It could allow for a trickle in effect, rather than en masse. 

·      ~7ish Introductory Talk 

o   The hobby

o   Club(s) info

o   Activities etc.

o   Talk about equipment especially while still light outside. 

o   Upcoming Astro events (such as the lunar eclipse);

o   what to expect tonight

o   Other aspects of being out in the Cove. Perhaps encourage visitors to recognize other aspects of the night (sounds, critters, etc.) Rangers may be able to offer some words.  

·      Astronomical Twilight ~8p but still near full moon. 

·      Target for 10p ending. Usually, optics dewing and a thinning crowd dictates this, but the GSMNP recommends this as a target.  

 

Volunteers (final list TBD)

·      Ed Gorney? (potential Sasquatch operator)

·      MC Duties James/Lee/Dave (PA equipment to be provided by the Park).

o   Talk about Sasquatch

o   Club(s)/activities/astronomy basics, etc.

o   Cherokee Sky Lore: 

§  “Where the Dog Ran” 

§  Seven Sisters Story?

·      Ayaka & Alex: SCT 6 and Binoculars

·      Dave Wells: Orion Refractor 80mm GEM (Dave would appreciate some help preparing/learning)

·      Bryan Ross: Various refractors 130mm 92mm

·      Robert Ogle: Needs a ride. Dob. 

·      Duane Dunlap: SCT 9.25”

·      James Cantu (when not MCing) 10” Dob and 15x70 tripod mount binos.

·      Others (unconfirmed)? 

o   Ricky (KO)?

o   Djerdj (KO)?

o   Girl Scout Leader Sarah Shepherd perhaps?

o   ORION: invitation open (David Fields, DR Fudge, Noah Friere)

Security and Park Considerations

·      Two law enforcement rangers will be present. 

·      We do not anticipate problems. If something arises alert a SMAS officer or Ranger. 

·      The park is taking parking and overloading of parking lots more seriously. The park has limited parking. ~couple hundred parking spots among all lots

·      They would like for this to be a successful event without overloading the park. 

Marketing and Communications

·      Promotion will be purposely limited and managed! Please do not contact the media or promote this outside of agreed terms. The Park will not post this to social media; they have nearly a million followers. We may ask for some post event promotion however. 

·      The GA/TN game may restrict attendance. Game time is anticipated from 3:30p-~7:30p in GA. 

·      After agreeing on promotion language, we will post to our Facebook page 900+ followers. Social media will be what it is, but we will ensure that the park’s needs are met. Please remember we anticipate being invited back for a spring event. We would rather have a smooth smaller event than a stressful one.

·      The event was not originally on the park calendar, but it will be added. 

·      James will make a FB post after conferring with our contact. 

·      I will work with the officers to prepare materials for passing out. 

Weather, Conditions, Cancellations

The SMAS executive council will make a weather/conditions determination when we feel we have the best information available. I will ask for phone numbers from all volunteers to communicate cancellations if necessary. 

On 10/25/2022 6:41 AM Dave Wells <david.d.wells1963@...> wrote:

Hi James, I plan to attend. I would like to invite my Civil Air Patrol unit as well as some of the neighboring units (Oak Ridge, Sevierville, and Maryville) but would not expect more than 10 to 20 cadets in total (if that) who would be able to attend. Would this be possible?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:48 PM Group Notification <noreply@groups.io> wrote:

Cade's Cove Star Party (Tentative Option)

When:
Saturday, November 5, 2022
5:00pm to 10:00pm
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

Where:
Cade's Cove, GSMNP

Organizer: James Cantiu james.cantu@... 865-405-2492

View Event

Description:

Cades Cove Star Party Plan

Saturday, November 5, 2022 (no backup date, but potential Spring event)

 

Please understand the park is trying to not get overwhelmed. 

See notes below on parking, communications, and marketing.

 

Background

The Cades Cove Star Party has not occurred in several years. Scheduling this year has been challenging for several reasons due to volunteer limitations, calendar/conflict limitations, and even GSMNP ranger staffing limitations. This fall we only have one date fully feasible (Nov 5^th). This will be only a few days before the new moon, so DSOs will be limited unless they are bright and contrasty. Many have encouraged us to do the best we can and realize that the public can and will be quite amazed by lunar and planetary opportunities. We can promote near events (such as the Nov 8^th lunar eclipse), equipment, and other learning opportunities. Please note we may be competing with the Georgia/Tennessee football game (@ GA 3:30PM- ~7:30PM Eastern) for attention, and that game will likely draw a huge audience. 

We have no idea what attendance will be, but volunteers are likely to be fewer than some of our previous years. In short, I am confident that we can provide a great experience for those that join us, and I’ve been encouraged by the enthusiasm of those prepared/preparing to participate. 

Some changes: We anticipate keeping this event as simple as possible. We will not have the traditional potluck. Perhaps at a future date, but for now, as we are re-emerging, let’s keep it simple. If you wish to bring a meal/snacks, bring whatever you can for yourself, but we are unlikely to setup a shared banquet area for food. In terms of health and hygiene, masking is at the discretion of the individual. Please take whatever precautions are appropriate for you.  

Potential objects for viewing

·      Moon

·      Planets

o   Jupiter 

o   Saturn 

o   Uranus (too low) 

o   Neptune (near Jupiter; west of Jupiter, but would probably require an ephemeris to locate)

·      Bright Globular Clusters

·      Open clusters

·      Asterisms

·      Andromeda Galaxy? (Possibly unlikely due to moon)

Other things

·      Naked eye objects/targets

o   Constellations

o   Large Asterisms

o   Cherokee Sky Lore

·      Lunar eclipse November 8^th

·      Equipment (different types: binos, scopes, lasers, finders, etc.)

·      Satellites

·      Artemis Launch November 14^th

·      Talking about light pollution. Pointing out Gatlinburg or other nearby sources and how they affect the horizon. Methods to minimize.

·      The GSMNP does not systematically talk about light pollution. It may come up incidentally with some programs. 

 

Timing (confirmed)

·      5:00 meet in parking lot. 

·      5:15/5:30 line up and drive to field under ranger escort ~0.25-0.33 miles.  

·      Rangers to be at the parking lot Orientation Shelter around 5:30 to greet guests. 

·      Sunset ~6:36p. Gates will close. Vehicle traffic prohibited at this point. 

·      The public guests may be allowed to walk down (after gates close). The park does not think it practical to hold them. It could allow for a trickle in effect, rather than en masse. 

·      ~7ish Introductory Talk 

o   The hobby

o   Club(s) info

o   Activities etc.

o   Talk about equipment especially while still light outside. 

o   Upcoming Astro events (such as the lunar eclipse);

o   what to expect tonight

o   Other aspects of being out in the Cove. Perhaps encourage visitors to recognize other aspects of the night (sounds, critters, etc.) Rangers may be able to offer some words.  

·      Astronomical Twilight ~8p but still near full moon. 

·      Target for 10p ending. Usually, optics dewing and a thinning crowd dictates this, but the GSMNP recommends this as a target.  

 

Volunteers (final list TBD)

·      Ed Gorney? (potential Sasquatch operator)

·      MC Duties James/Lee/Dave (PA equipment to be provided by the Park).

o   Talk about Sasquatch

o   Club(s)/activities/astronomy basics, etc.

o   Cherokee Sky Lore: 

§  “Where the Dog Ran” 

§  Seven Sisters Story?

·      Ayaka & Alex: SCT 6 and Binoculars

·      Dave Wells: Orion Refractor 80mm GEM (Dave would appreciate some help preparing/learning)

·      Bryan Ross: Various refractors 130mm 92mm

·      Robert Ogle: Needs a ride. Dob. 

·      Duane Dunlap: SCT 9.25”

·      James Cantu (when not MCing) 10” Dob and 15x70 tripod mount binos.

·      Others (unconfirmed)? 

o   Ricky (KO)?

o   Djerdj (KO)?

o   Girl Scout Leader Sarah Shepherd perhaps?

o   ORION: invitation open (David Fields, DR Fudge, Noah Friere)

Security and Park Considerations

·      Two law enforcement rangers will be present. 

·      We do not anticipate problems. If something arises alert a SMAS officer or Ranger. 

·      The park is taking parking and overloading of parking lots more seriously. The park has limited parking. ~couple hundred parking spots among all lots

·      They would like for this to be a successful event without overloading the park. 

Marketing and Communications

·      Promotion will be purposely limited and managed! Please do not contact the media or promote this outside of agreed terms. The Park will not post this to social media; they have nearly a million followers. We may ask for some post event promotion however. 

·      The GA/TN game may restrict attendance. Game time is anticipated from 3:30p-~7:30p in GA. 

·      After agreeing on promotion language, we will post to our Facebook page 900+ followers. Social media will be what it is, but we will ensure that the park’s needs are met. Please remember we anticipate being invited back for a spring event. We would rather have a smooth smaller event than a stressful one.

·      The event was not originally on the park calendar, but it will be added. 

·      James will make a FB post after conferring with our contact. 

·      I will work with the officers to prepare materials for passing out. 

Weather, Conditions, Cancellations

The SMAS executive council will make a weather/conditions determination when we feel we have the best information available. I will ask for phone numbers from all volunteers to communicate cancellations if necessary.