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Re: So I purchased: [shipmate] WELCOME ABOARD

Oliver Shaw
 

sold Pearl to buy Shipmate Senior Rainbow
A very well known one in this Association!

Previously owned by a past Commodore,  Tony Patrick,  if I am not mistaken.



Oliver


So I purchased: [shipmate] WELCOME ABOARD

David Astley
 

Hi Oliver,

I also, live in the N. West , Leyland Lancashire.  I joined the Shipmate owners association 4 years ago when we bought Shipmate Senior Pearl  sold Pearl to buy Shipmate Senior Rainbow which sustained trailer damage and the insurance people wrote her off  so I purchased Jesse a Seafarer 465 built buy small craft after they discontinued the Shipmate. My wife and I love to sail her at the shipmate Bala rally in the spring,  also we sail at Coniston  and Ullswater. 

Best Regards 
Dave Astley. 



On 11/10/2022 23:08 Oliver Shaw via groups.io <acapella13934@...> wrote:


Steve,

Welcome aboard.

I see that you are based in the north-west,  as indeed I also am,  based at Liverpool SC;   however the north-west covers a vast area  -  everything from Cheshire to Cumbria (at least).

There are currently three Shipmates in my club (2 seniors and one dayboat,  the latter slightly modified by the addition of a bowsprit),  and I myself have a Privateer 20  -  a "stretched Shipmate",  by the same designer and builder.

Although at least two of these owners are not vastly experienced they do all have Shipmates in working order.

I myself have some 65 years' experience of sailing,  both yachts and dinghies,  and although I have never owned an actual Shipmate I probably know enough to debug most problems.

If we can help as you try to ascertain what is what,  feel free to ask.

Incidentally my one and only mentor in seamanship,  when I was a teenager and young adult (and I turn 80 next month), was a close family friend who was a retired 4-ring naval Captain,  and who was a consummate seaman whether in command of a sailing dinghy or a yacht or a major warship,  or anything in between  -  and he had done all of those.   A testament to the qualities of the Shipmate is that in old age,  for his last boat,  when he decided to switch from the ultra-fast Shearwater 3 catamaran that he then owned,  he bought a Shipmate Senior.   He was no fool when it comes to assessing the qualities of a boat,  and for him to choose a Shipmate Senior speaks volumes about the capabilities of the boat.



Oliver 


Re: WELCOME ABOARD

Oliver Shaw
 

Steve,

Welcome aboard.

I see that you are based in the north-west,  as indeed I also am,  based at Liverpool SC;   however the north-west covers a vast area  -  everything from Cheshire to Cumbria (at least).

There are currently three Shipmates in my club (2 seniors and one dayboat,  the latter slightly modified by the addition of a bowsprit),  and I myself have a Privateer 20  -  a "stretched Shipmate",  by the same designer and builder.

Although at least two of these owners are not vastly experienced they do all have Shipmates in working order.

I myself have some 65 years' experience of sailing,  both yachts and dinghies,  and although I have never owned an actual Shipmate I probably know enough to debug most problems.

If we can help as you try to ascertain what is what,  feel free to ask.

Incidentally my one and only mentor in seamanship,  when I was a teenager and young adult (and I turn 80 next month), was a close family friend who was a retired 4-ring naval Captain,  and who was a consummate seaman whether in command of a sailing dinghy or a yacht or a major warship,  or anything in between  -  and he had done all of those.   A testament to the qualities of the Shipmate is that in old age,  for his last boat,  when he decided to switch from the ultra-fast Shearwater 3 catamaran that he then owned,  he bought a Shipmate Senior.   He was no fool when it comes to assessing the qualities of a boat,  and for him to choose a Shipmate Senior speaks volumes about the capabilities of the boat.



Oliver 


Re: WELCOME ABOARD

Steve Savage
 

I am a new member and have recently bought a Shipmate Senior. I have been going through all the equipment that came with the boat, working out what connects to where in the boat. As I live in the North West, I intend to sail in the Lakes, Bala and Rudyard Lake.


WELCOME ABOARD

John Button G8JMB
 

Steve Savage has jost joined...

WELCOME ABOARD

Please post to say hello and ptrove that you're a person!  It would be good if you could tell us something about your your boat  and where you sail.

Good Sailing
John Button
group owner


SOA Newsletter No 1 July 2022

Phil Weston
 

SOA Newsletter – No 1; July 2022

 

This Newsletter is the first one, and bit of an experiment. The idea is keep members in touch with SOA activities throughout the season They do not replace SAGA, and they will be kept very brief.

If you have any comments, or have items you would like included, please let Phil Weston know (boatpoem26@...)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1)    Solent Meeting – 13/14 August

This is just to remind you that our next sailing meeting will be based on the Solent. If you can, please, do come and join in !  You can get more information from Mike Walton (Gull)  by telephoning / messaging him on  07776 436294.

 

2)    Want someone to sail with ?

If you can’t make it to a meeting, but would like a fellow SOA member to join you on the water with their boat, let us know and we can contact members. There may be someone out there willing and eager to meet up with you.

 

3)    Taking the SOA forward - what we intend to do.

Amongst other things, I wrote in the Spring 2022 SAGA, under “Update on the “Future of the SOA”, final paragraph “Where to Next?” :

1.      ……“Keep it going” for now with modifications to how we run it to support members. It will not be a radical change.

2.      ……Tailor it in a way that is comparatively simple, enjoyable, and gives pleasure in sailing (and owning) our little vessels.

3.      …... As members of the “committee” move on, we need to some new blood to step in and help run the SOA.

Having consulted, cogitated, procrastinated, and no “eureka moment” materialising, without further ado, how do we intend to proceed,  noting that there still an interest in Shipmates here, and on the continent ?

Communications : The existing  means of communicating possibly rely too much on one to one contact by Email, Phone and use of the Website. The Website, which has been in existence for many years and served us well enough, could benefit from updating (this observation is based on comments from various members). So we will look at how to modernise the Website, and consider our use of  Forums, Emails, Wiki Pages, Facebook, etc. to try to establish a few clear methods of contact.

Meetings : In their current format,  meetings are attracting few attendees these days (i.e. an established set of monthly meetings in given locations). The rising cost of fuel and towing longer distances will not help matters. We won’t ditch these for now, but will review the situation for the longer term. Other meetings / venues may have an appeal ( e.g. in the past Liverpool area, Scotland to Ireland; Round Britain; France; Milford Haven, etc.). Whilst maybe not attracting many boats, helping to facilitate them, via “better communications” , may prove worthwhile. An “aide memoir” to holding a meeting will be produced, which will assist those not normally running a meeting. Local groups (such as that in the Hereford and Worcester area),“meal”  meet ups , and social occasions will be promoted.

SAGA : We will consider the role of  SAGA , bearing in mind that there are  members who enjoy it in its current  format. There may be a case for introducing a newsletter i.e. a simple update, issued more frequently, on one or two topics about current or shortly to be held events. (… here it is folks… !)

Promotion : We will look to promoting the SOA by considering Shipmate Caps,  T-shirts,  and getting mentioned in sailing magazines, etc.

Support:  We will consider producing a “User’s Guide to Shipmates” As the boats get older, new members acquire them, and other members refurbish them, more enquiries are received on various technical issues. This indicates that there is a place for more up to date information than is contained in the Handbook ( published 2008).

Committee :  While we still have a bank balance, it is felt that there is still need for a formal Committee to run the SOA, even if it is only by means of “a light touch”. Our current Vice Commodore will be standing down this year (a possible replacement has been identified !). In the future  years, the Secretary / Treasurer and SAGA Editor positions are likely to become vacant. We could do with a new role of Communications Manager, sooner rather than later, to guide us on Websites, Forums, etc. None of these should be onerous to fulfil as the SOA is only a small organisation. So if anyone has some relevant experience, and is willing to help out, please let us know !

Admin :  Some changes to Subscriptions and the SOA Terms of Reference (TORs), will be proposed. Subscriptions could be changed ( e.g. £5 covering 5 years membership – our bank balance is healthy enough to allow this ). The Terms of  reference will need amending to reflect how we run the SOA.

 Conclusion

  So, if you wish to comment, support, or suggest other ideas, please feedback yours thoughts to the SOA Commodore . We are aiming to implement the changes for 2023. The September 2022 AGM will be the time to discuss any proposals for change and formally approving changes that need such approval. (i.e. Subscriptions and  TORs).

  ….  any volunteers to help modernise our communications system ( Website, Social Media, etc.) ?

Phil Weston, “Commodore”                                                                17 July 2022


Pyrotechnics / Flares - v- "Modern Distress" call methods.

Phil Weston
 

Oliver recently, in response to an exchange of emails between Damian ( he of the "Foresail topic"), myself, and Oliver, that he, Oliver, questioned the use of Pyrotechnics in this day and age [ forgive me if I have not précised the comments entirely correctly!].

Anyway, the purpose of this "posting", is to note that in the "February 2022 Practical Boat Owner" (yes "February) on pages 34 to 37 there is an article covering the subject. 

I attach and extract of the opening paragraphs - not the whole article as I don't want to fall foul of copyright.  So if the subject is of interest to you, grab a copy of PBO.


Re: Foresail

Oliver Shaw
 

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:50 AM, Michael Walton wrote:
> My Holt Allen spar has ...   ...
It may be of interest,  and perhaps relevance,  to note that the Holt Mini-reef system is now obsolete,  and Holt can no longer supply spares for it.

For many years another very popular headsail reefing system for larger dinghies and trailer-sailer yachts was that developed by Rob Helyar,  as Flexible Reefing Spars.  Indeed I have used it on three of my boats over the years,  and have been instrumental in it being used on at least one of our club Wayfarers,  and I have long recommended it to other private owners.    However Rob has very recently retired because the arthritis in his hands was getting too painful to continue making this kit.   

Rob tells me that Richard Hartley,  of Hartley Boats,  has taken on the rights,  and is keen to continue the manufacture of the kit;   but there seems to be precious little about it on the Hartley Boats website,  and Richard Hartley has not yet answered my email of a couple of months ago enquiring about a replacement for my now failing Holt Mini-reef.    

So whether Hartleys are or are not intending to manufacture the kit remains to be seen.

Other alternatives include Plastimo,  who have a very well-developed range for yachts,  and I would expect the bottom of their size range to fit our boats  -  but anyone considering purchase would need to check that for themselves;   and Bartels (a German firm,  I think);   and Aero Luff Spars,  who very specifically make kit for dinghies and small trailer-sailers.

There may perhaps be others,  but it is a limited market,  and the number of suppliers is small  -  and has reduced very noticeably with Rob's enforced retirement.


Oliver


Re: Foresail

Michael Walton
 

Hello Damian

I have just removed my furling spar from the garage loft and measured it for you, along with foresail sizes.

My Holt Allen spar has a maximum slot length of 161ins/4.1m

My Genoa has a luff(the edge that slots into the spar) of 158ins. The foot( the bottom of the sails that leads back towards the stern) of 93ins.

I have a spare jib that I was sold as a GP14 dinghy foresail that slots nicely into the spar. It has a luff of 158ins also but a foot of only 67ins. I carry this as a spare but have never used it. If you attend Bala meeting next May and still have no foresail you are welcome to borrow this. Do check the length of the slot in your own furling spar as some Shipmates no longer have original masts etc and may have odd sizes.

On my last Shipmate which I converted to furling foresail, I had a Genoa which used to hank onto the forestay. I cut/unscrewed the hanks and slid the sail into the foil slot but it pulled out easily. I slotted a 10mm(?) rope into the sleeve along the front edge of the sail for the whole length of the luff and then slid/pulled the rope/sail luff into the slot which fitted very tightly. I never removed the sail from the spar for the rest of my ownership and never had any problems with this arrangement.

Good luck with your search. I bought many sails off ebay, my main is now a GP14 which was unused. I bought it off ebay from a local sailing school, 3mains and 3 foresails for £15.

I sold 2 of the mains and 2 of the foresails. My mainsail cost me MINUS £50.

Mike





------ Original Message ------
From: "Damian via groups.io" <damoroberts@...>
To: shipmate@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 17 Dec, 21 At 23:18
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

Hi Phil

Again, thank you for taking the time to send me these. Very useful and exactly what i'm looking for with the info on the sail size. I'll get the sail out as soon as i have chance and let you know the number. As for her name, there's non that i'm aware of but keen to try to dig up some history.


Re: Foresail

Oliver Shaw
 

Damian,

 

Let’s target second half of January;    all being well (and Covid restrictions permitting) I hope to be going to visit family after Christmas,  returning mid-January.

 

 

 

Oliver

 

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Damian via groups.io
Sent: 17 December 2021 22:55
To: shipmate@groups.io
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Hi Oliver

Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'd very much enjoy seeing other similar boats to mine to get a better idea how to improve my own. You never know, it might be one you have come across before. 


Re: SAGA Articles

John Button G8JMB
 

Hi Phil

Thanks for the index- very useful!
And a belated thanks for the Saga as well.

good sailing and Season's Greetings

John Button


Re: Foresail

Damian
 

Hi Phil

Again, thank you for taking the time to send me these. Very useful and exactly what i'm looking for with the info on the sail size. I'll get the sail out as soon as i have chance and let you know the number. As for her name, there's non that i'm aware of but keen to try to dig up some history.


Re: Foresail

Damian
 

Hi Oliver

Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'd very much enjoy seeing other similar boats to mine to get a better idea how to improve my own. You never know, it might be one you have come across before. 


Re: Foresail

Phil Weston
 

Re Flares / Distress

 

  • quite agree the old style pyrothenics  have there downside and the modern solutions are better.
  • I had some out of date ones, until recently, that needed disposing but wasn’t sure where to take them. Luckily an event during the summer at Chichester Marina had an “exhibitor” that was taking them in , at a modest price.  
  • glad to hand the flares over – dated 1980s !

 

Handbook – been thinking it might benefit from refreshing.

 

Phil

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Oliver Shaw via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 21:31
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian,

 

Phil’s attachments are useful, but I should point out that the otherwise excellent and informative Handbook is typical of its date  -  several years ago,   and in one important respect may be considered now out of date.

 

I refer to distress signals.   Pyrotechnic flares have long been a cause of concern for a great many reasons,  including seriously dangerous misfires (even when well in date and used by skilled professionals).    There have been incidents of misfires causing fires or even explosions onboard,  and at least one case of a professional Yachtmaster Instructor being shot in the stomach while demonstrating the use of a collision avoidance flare to his students.

 

A further problem with flares,  albeit a smaller one,  is that they have a life of only three years,  and after that there is a very real problem of how to dispose of them.   The old practice of tying them to a couple of bricks and dumping them a suitable distance offshore is most certainly now frowned upon,  and I suspect that it is also now illegal.   The chandler who supplies the replacements may possibly accept the retired ones back for disposal,  as may the manufacturers;  but there is no certainty.   If all else fails the Coastguard will currently accept them,  but not necessarily at all centres,  and it may involve a drive of several hundred miles to deliver them.

 

At the time the Handbook was written there was no satisfactory alternative to carrying flares;   but there is now.   For vessels less than 45-ft LOA,  which of course include your Shipmate,  the very strong recommendation is get rid of flares,  and instead use a combination of marine VHF plus either Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) or an Electronic Position Indicting Radio Beacon (EPIRB).     The capital cost of a PLB is comparable with that of a decent set of flares,  the life is indefinite (rather than a mere three years) although you will need to replace the battery about every five years,  there ae no end of life disposal problems,  and there is a guarantee that the distress signal will be observed (compared with merely chance in the case of a visual signal),  and the signal is transmitted for at least 24 hours (48 for an EPIRB)  -  as compared with only a very few minutes with a pyrotechnic flare.

 

No contest,  in my book!

 

 

Oliver

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Weston
Sent: 15 December 2021 20:30
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw <acapella13934@...>
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian:

 

  • Thanks for getting in touch !
  • Oliver is well experienced with Shipmates, so should be able to help guide you.
  • Getting a jib should be relatively straight forward but can present some pitfalls.
  • I.e. finding one at an acceptable price, and making sure the dimensions are correct.
  • The attached “leaflet” gives some measurements, but be aware that as the boats have been around for a while , it always possible an owner might have made some modifications  that mean a replacement jib could be marginally different.
  • I have also attached the “handbook” which might provide some info that is of interest (see page 8) - no guarantees.

 

Phil Weston, Fareham, Hampshire.

 

PS : Does your Shipmate have a name / sail number ?

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Oliver Shaw via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 18:22
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian,

 

We have at least two Shipmates,  I think three,  at Liverpool SC;  and I myself have what has been described as a “stretched Shipmate”,  a Privateer 20 (same era,  same designer,  same builder).

 

If you care to make contact off-list I am sure that I can arrange introductions to owners,  who may well be able to help you with sizes;   acapella13934 “AT” talktalk.net.

 

I myself have been sailing almost continuously since my teens (and I am now 79),  so I have a certain amount of experience and expertise that may be helpful to you.

 

We are getting a bit close to Christmas,  and (Covid scenario permitting) I plan to be away for about a fortnight almost straight after Christmas,   so if it is not urgent I suggest that we aim to meet up some time in the second half of January.

 

Hope this helps,

 

 

 

Oliver

 

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Damian via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 17:09
To: shipmate@groups.io
Subject: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Hi all. I'm looking for some help trying to find a foresail for my senior. I'm very new to sailing and know nothing about buying new/used sails. The boat only came with its main sail. The forestay has a furling mechanism. What should I ne looking for and how do I know what size works. 
I'm up in Lancashire.
Thanks for any help.
D

 

 


Re: Foresail

Oliver Shaw
 

Damian,

 

Phil’s attachments are useful, but I should point out that the otherwise excellent and informative Handbook is typical of its date  -  several years ago,   and in one important respect may be considered now out of date.

 

I refer to distress signals.   Pyrotechnic flares have long been a cause of concern for a great many reasons,  including seriously dangerous misfires (even when well in date and used by skilled professionals).    There have been incidents of misfires causing fires or even explosions onboard,  and at least one case of a professional Yachtmaster Instructor being shot in the stomach while demonstrating the use of a collision avoidance flare to his students.

 

A further problem with flares,  albeit a smaller one,  is that they have a life of only three years,  and after that there is a very real problem of how to dispose of them.   The old practice of tying them to a couple of bricks and dumping them a suitable distance offshore is most certainly now frowned upon,  and I suspect that it is also now illegal.   The chandler who supplies the replacements may possibly accept the retired ones back for disposal,  as may the manufacturers;  but there is no certainty.   If all else fails the Coastguard will currently accept them,  but not necessarily at all centres,  and it may involve a drive of several hundred miles to deliver them.

 

At the time the Handbook was written there was no satisfactory alternative to carrying flares;   but there is now.   For vessels less than 45-ft LOA,  which of course include your Shipmate,  the very strong recommendation is get rid of flares,  and instead use a combination of marine VHF plus either Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) or an Electronic Position Indicting Radio Beacon (EPIRB).     The capital cost of a PLB is comparable with that of a decent set of flares,  the life is indefinite (rather than a mere three years) although you will need to replace the battery about every five years,  there ae no end of life disposal problems,  and there is a guarantee that the distress signal will be observed (compared with merely chance in the case of a visual signal),  and the signal is transmitted for at least 24 hours (48 for an EPIRB)  -  as compared with only a very few minutes with a pyrotechnic flare.

 

No contest,  in my book!

 

 

Oliver

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Weston
Sent: 15 December 2021 20:30
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw <acapella13934@...>
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian:

 

  • Thanks for getting in touch !
  • Oliver is well experienced with Shipmates, so should be able to help guide you.
  • Getting a jib should be relatively straight forward but can present some pitfalls.
  • I.e. finding one at an acceptable price, and making sure the dimensions are correct.
  • The attached “leaflet” gives some measurements, but be aware that as the boats have been around for a while , it always possible an owner might have made some modifications  that mean a replacement jib could be marginally different.
  • I have also attached the “handbook” which might provide some info that is of interest (see page 8) - no guarantees.

 

Phil Weston, Fareham, Hampshire.

 

PS : Does your Shipmate have a name / sail number ?

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Oliver Shaw via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 18:22
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian,

 

We have at least two Shipmates,  I think three,  at Liverpool SC;  and I myself have what has been described as a “stretched Shipmate”,  a Privateer 20 (same era,  same designer,  same builder).

 

If you care to make contact off-list I am sure that I can arrange introductions to owners,  who may well be able to help you with sizes;   acapella13934 “AT” talktalk.net.

 

I myself have been sailing almost continuously since my teens (and I am now 79),  so I have a certain amount of experience and expertise that may be helpful to you.

 

We are getting a bit close to Christmas,  and (Covid scenario permitting) I plan to be away for about a fortnight almost straight after Christmas,   so if it is not urgent I suggest that we aim to meet up some time in the second half of January.

 

Hope this helps,

 

 

 

Oliver

 

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Damian via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 17:09
To: shipmate@groups.io
Subject: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Hi all. I'm looking for some help trying to find a foresail for my senior. I'm very new to sailing and know nothing about buying new/used sails. The boat only came with its main sail. The forestay has a furling mechanism. What should I ne looking for and how do I know what size works. 
I'm up in Lancashire.
Thanks for any help.
D

 


Re: Foresail

Phil Weston
 

Damian:

 

  • Thanks for getting in touch !
  • Oliver is well experienced with Shipmates, so should be able to help guide you.
  • Getting a jib should be relatively straight forward but can present some pitfalls.
  • I.e. finding one at an acceptable price, and making sure the dimensions are correct.
  • The attached “leaflet” gives some measurements, but be aware that as the boats have been around for a while , it always possible an owner might have made some modifications  that mean a replacement jib could be marginally different.
  • I have also attached the “handbook” which might provide some info that is of interest (see page 8) - no guarantees.

 

Phil Weston, Fareham, Hampshire.

 

PS : Does your Shipmate have a name / sail number ?

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Oliver Shaw via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 18:22
To: shipmate@groups.io
Cc: Oliver Shaw
Subject: Re: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Damian,

 

We have at least two Shipmates,  I think three,  at Liverpool SC;  and I myself have what has been described as a “stretched Shipmate”,  a Privateer 20 (same era,  same designer,  same builder).

 

If you care to make contact off-list I am sure that I can arrange introductions to owners,  who may well be able to help you with sizes;   acapella13934 “AT” talktalk.net.

 

I myself have been sailing almost continuously since my teens (and I am now 79),  so I have a certain amount of experience and expertise that may be helpful to you.

 

We are getting a bit close to Christmas,  and (Covid scenario permitting) I plan to be away for about a fortnight almost straight after Christmas,   so if it is not urgent I suggest that we aim to meet up some time in the second half of January.

 

Hope this helps,

 

 

 

Oliver

 

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Damian via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 17:09
To: shipmate@groups.io
Subject: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Hi all. I'm looking for some help trying to find a foresail for my senior. I'm very new to sailing and know nothing about buying new/used sails. The boat only came with its main sail. The forestay has a furling mechanism. What should I ne looking for and how do I know what size works. 
I'm up in Lancashire.
Thanks for any help.
D

 


Re: Foresail

Oliver Shaw
 

Damian,

 

We have at least two Shipmates,  I think three,  at Liverpool SC;  and I myself have what has been described as a “stretched Shipmate”,  a Privateer 20 (same era,  same designer,  same builder).

 

If you care to make contact off-list I am sure that I can arrange introductions to owners,  who may well be able to help you with sizes;   acapella13934 “AT” talktalk.net.

 

I myself have been sailing almost continuously since my teens (and I am now 79),  so I have a certain amount of experience and expertise that may be helpful to you.

 

We are getting a bit close to Christmas,  and (Covid scenario permitting) I plan to be away for about a fortnight almost straight after Christmas,   so if it is not urgent I suggest that we aim to meet up some time in the second half of January.

 

Hope this helps,

 

 

 

Oliver

 

 

From: shipmate@groups.io <shipmate@groups.io> On Behalf Of Damian via groups.io
Sent: 15 December 2021 17:09
To: shipmate@groups.io
Subject: [shipmate] Foresail

 

Hi all. I'm looking for some help trying to find a foresail for my senior. I'm very new to sailing and know nothing about buying new/used sails. The boat only came with its main sail. The forestay has a furling mechanism. What should I ne looking for and how do I know what size works. 
I'm up in Lancashire.
Thanks for any help.
D


Foresail

Damian
 

Hi all. I'm looking for some help trying to find a foresail for my senior. I'm very new to sailing and know nothing about buying new/used sails. The boat only came with its main sail. The forestay has a furling mechanism. What should I ne looking for and how do I know what size works. 
I'm up in Lancashire.
Thanks for any help.
D


Re: SAGA Articles

Phil Weston
 

....... and I should have added, that if you spot an article in a SAGA you don't have, but would like to read, let me know. I can send a .pdf copy of the SAGA in question.


SAGA Articles

Phil Weston
 

The attached is an Index to selected SAGA articles, going back to 1981, which may be of some interest ? 

21 - 40 of 85