Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

Thanks.

Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 
Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;
lostdroid.bandcamp.com

Well depends.

Another one with the 12 mtk. The way you can use the fx, eq, pan etc on the board to print to a recording is by receiving your audio from the PC to the individual usb returns. Set everything how you want and mix it down back to the pC on tracks 13/14. 23/24 in your case.

So in reaper for example you'd set the output for each track to a usb out on the board.

Set the usb return button on those tracks on the board.

Add any fx you want in reaper on those tracks too if you like.

Make your adjustments, arm a track with inputs 23/24 and record.

Otherwise, when just laying down tracks, the audio interface is post gain but pre fader eq and fx.

You can of course just use it as an analogue board bipassing the audio interface with the master outs connected to a separate interface.

Regards

Crhis Turner

On 24/04/21 23:48, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com

Yeah, I'm not sure how you would set it up to use the effects over zoom or the like. Except just using it as an analogue desk connected to another interface of course.

Possibly with some sort of wrangling with virtual audio cable. Actually I have a similar question to ask about this.

CHris

Chris:

 

Thanks much.

 

So other than through a DAW, I gather that one cannot send the effects to a program such as Zoom, TeamTalk ETC?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Turner via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 9:23 AM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.

 

Well depends.

Another one with the 12 mtk. The way you can use the fx, eq, pan etc on the board to print to a recording is by receiving your audio from the PC to the individual usb returns. Set everything how you want and mix it down back to the pC on tracks 13/14. 23/24 in your case.

 

So in reaper for example you'd set the output for each track to a usb out on the board.

Set the usb return button on those tracks on the board.

Add any fx you want in reaper on those tracks too if you like.

Make your adjustments, arm a track with inputs 23/24 and record.

 

Otherwise, when just laying down tracks, the audio interface is post gain but pre fader eq and fx.

 

You can of course just use it as an analogue board bipassing the audio interface with the master outs connected to a separate interface.

 

Regards

 

Crhis Turner

 

 

 

On 24/04/21 23:48, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com

Hey guys, for the 22MTK, there is a way to send the FX through to the main mix returned through USB.  Just be sure that  the two FX bus channels are unmuted, and the main L+R button is enabled for sending to mains.  It will, then, return with channels 23 and 24.  
If you are looking to return the FX independantly to the DAW on it's own set of channels, you will lose your last two stereo return TRS channels, 17/18 and 19/20 to do this, but its' possible.  

What you will do is set your FX to send to the sub groups, and return the stereo outputs from the sub groups to respected input chanels, unmute the channels, send them to USB and remove them from the main L+R mix.    Since the sub groups are either stereo or mono, you will want to use whatever suits your fancy.    The configuration is as follows:

1. Patch group 1 L out into channel 17 and group 1 R out into channel 18 using standard TRS cables.
2. Patch group 2 L out into channel 19 and group 2 R out into channel 20 using standard TRS cables.
3. be sure that groups 1 and 2 are not sending to mains via the buttons abover the group faders, also be sure they are set to mono or stereo, depending on your preference.
4. On FX strip 1, be sure that Main L+R is disabled but group one send is enabled.
5. on FX Strip 2, be sure that Main L+R is disabled, but group send 2 is enabled.
6. On channel strip for 17/18 be sure that all physical sends are disabled, but USB send is enabled.
7. Repeat step 6 for channel strip 19/20
8, set group faders to unity.
9, adjust your fx levels using fx faders, and this will send to separate  USB outs for fx only on channels 17/18 for fx 1, and 19/20 for FX 2.

Hey guys, for the 22MTK, there is a way to send the FX through to the main mix returned through USB.  Just be sure that  the two FX bus channels are unmuted, and the main L+R button is enabled for sending to mains.  It will, then, return with channels 23 and 24.  
If you are looking to return the FX independantly to the DAW on it's own set of channels, you will lose your last two stereo return TRS channels, 17/18 and 19/20 to do this, but its' possible.  

What you will do is set your FX to send to the sub groups, and return the stereo outputs from the sub groups to respected input chanels, unmute the channels, send them to USB and remove them from the main L+R mix.    Since the sub groups are either stereo or mono, you will want to use whatever suits your fancy.    The configuration is as follows:

1. Patch group 1 L out into channel 17 and group 1 R out into channel 18 using standard TRS cables.
2. Patch group 2 L out into channel 19 and group 2 R out into channel 20 using standard TRS cables.
3. be sure that groups 1 and 2 are not sending to mains via the buttons abover the group faders, also be sure they are set to mono or stereo, depending on your preference.
4. On FX strip 1, be sure that Main L+R is disabled but group one send is enabled.
5. on FX Strip 2, be sure that Main L+R is disabled, but group send 2 is enabled.
6. On channel strip for 17/18 be sure that all physical sends are disabled, but USB send is enabled.
7. Repeat step 6 for channel strip 19/20
8, set group faders to unity.
9, adjust your fx levels using fx faders, and this will send to separate  USB outs for fx only on channels 17/18 for fx 1, and 19/20 for FX 2.

Hi jim,

Yes it certainly does.

Brian

Gerad:

Great job: thanks.

Those mixers don’t have 100 mm sliders do they?

Thanks.

Hey guys, for the 22MTK, there is a way to send the FX through to the main mix returned through USB.  Just be sure that  the two FX bus channels are unmuted, and the main L+R button is enabled for sending to mains.  It will, then, return with channels 23 and 24.  
If you are looking to return the FX independantly to the DAW on it's own set of channels, you will lose your last two stereo return TRS channels, 17/18 and 19/20 to do this, but its' possible.  

What you will do is set your FX to send to the sub groups, and return the stereo outputs from the sub groups to respected input chanels, unmute the channels, send them to USB and remove them from the main L+R mix.    Since the sub groups are either stereo or mono, you will want to use whatever suits your fancy.    The configuration is as follows:

1. Patch group 1 L out into channel 17 and group 1 R out into channel 18 using standard TRS cables.
2. Patch group 2 L out into channel 19 and group 2 R out into channel 20 using standard TRS cables.
3. be sure that groups 1 and 2 are not sending to mains via the buttons abover the group faders, also be sure they are set to mono or stereo, depending on your preference.
4. On FX strip 1, be sure that Main L+R is disabled but group one send is enabled.
5. on FX Strip 2, be sure that Main L+R is disabled, but group send 2 is enabled.
6. On channel strip for 17/18 be sure that all physical sends are disabled, but USB send is enabled.
7. Repeat step 6 for channel strip 19/20
8, set group faders to unity.
9, adjust your fx levels using fx faders, and this will send to separate  USB outs for fx only on channels 17/18 for fx 1, and 19/20 for FX 2.

From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerad Deuvall
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 4:23 PM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.

Hey guys, for the 22MTK, there is a way to send the FX through to the main mix returned through USB.  Just be sure that  the two FX bus channels are unmuted, and the main L+R button is enabled for sending to mains.  It will, then, return with channels 23 and 24.  
If you are looking to return the FX independantly to the DAW on it's own set of channels, you will lose your last two stereo return TRS channels, 17/18 and 19/20 to do this, but its' possible.  

What you will do is set your FX to send to the sub groups, and return the stereo outputs from the sub groups to respected input chanels, unmute the channels, send them to USB and remove them from the main L+R mix.    Since the sub groups are either stereo or mono, you will want to use whatever suits your fancy.    The configuration is as follows:

1. Patch group 1 L out into channel 17 and group 1 R out into channel 18 using standard TRS cables.
2. Patch group 2 L out into channel 19 and group 2 R out into channel 20 using standard TRS cables.
3. be sure that groups 1 and 2 are not sending to mains via the buttons abover the group faders, also be sure they are set to mono or stereo, depending on your preference.
4. On FX strip 1, be sure that Main L+R is disabled but group one send is enabled.
5. on FX Strip 2, be sure that Main L+R is disabled, but group send 2 is enabled.
6. On channel strip for 17/18 be sure that all physical sends are disabled, but USB send is enabled.
7. Repeat step 6 for channel strip 19/20
8, set group faders to unity.
9, adjust your fx levels using fx faders, and this will send to separate  USB outs for fx only on channels 17/18 for fx 1, and 19/20 for FX 2.

From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerad Deuvall
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:26 PM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.

If you are referring to on the console it's self, then yes.  Any channels you send to main L+R will send to headhones.  There's a separate button you must press to enable sending to USB.

If you are wanting to only hear specific things in headphones individually, then you will use the PFL buttons dedicated to each channel.    This will send just that channel to headphones when enabled..  You can send multiple channels via PFL to headphones as well, but it is not in stereo.  

My YouTube and SoundCloud pages.

My Band: Lost in Nostalgia
Drum Covers, Video Game Covers, Accessibility Tutorials

Thanks:



I’m not sure that I made myself clear.



My question is, can you decide which channels will and will not be sent to
the USB summing channels but still hear them all through the headphones
jack.



I was not able to accomplish that with the 12MTK.



I was able to press the USB return button for each channel to prevent that
channel from being sent to the USB summing channels but then I was unable to
monitor that channel through the headphones.



So I guess what I am asking is, is there a dedicated button for
enabling/disabling each channel from being sent to the USB summing
channels.



Thanks all over the place.







From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerad Deuvall
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:26 PM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.



If you are referring to on the console it's self, then yes. Any channels
you send to main L+R will send to headhones. There's a separate button you
must press to enable sending to USB.

If you are wanting to only hear specific things in headphones individually,
then you will use the PFL buttons dedicated to each channel. This will
send just that channel to headphones when enabled.. You can send multiple
channels via PFL to headphones as well, but it is not in stereo.

My YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/user/DWRhythm> and SoundCloud
<https://soundcloud.com/user-404632111> pages.

My Band: Lost in Nostalgia <https://www.facebook.com/lostinnostalgiaband/>
Drum Covers
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir20uieYmUDNfOnml-4qaw7R> ,
Video Game Covers
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir0xUp1MxjMWsysmSvx4gzkc> ,
Accessibility Tutorials
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir0LByB1ctK-Q29IEuWCjz1P>

Thanks:



I’m not sure that I made myself clear.



My question is, can you decide which channels will and will not be
sent to the USB summing channels but still hear them all through the
headphones jack.



I was not able to accomplish that with the 12MTK.



I was able to press the USB return button for each channel to prevent
that channel from being sent to the USB summing channels but then I
was unable to monitor that channel through the headphones.



So I guess what I am asking is, is there a dedicated button for
enabling/disabling each channel from being sent to the USB summing
channels.



Thanks all over the place.







From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerad Deuvall
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:26 PM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.



If you are referring to on the console it's self, then yes. Any
channels you send to main L+R will send to headhones. There's a
separate button you must press to enable sending to USB.

If you are wanting to only hear specific things in headphones individually,
then you will use the PFL buttons dedicated to each channel. This will
send just that channel to headphones when enabled.. You can send
multiple channels via PFL to headphones as well, but it is not in stereo.

My YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/user/DWRhythm> and SoundCloud
<https://soundcloud.com/user-404632111> pages.

My Band: Lost in Nostalgia
<https://www.facebook.com/lostinnostalgiaband/>
Drum Covers
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir20uieYmUDNfOnml-4qa
w7R> , Video Game Covers
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir0xUp1MxjMWsysmSvx4g
zkc> , Accessibility Tutorials
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir0LByB1ctK-Q29IEuWCj
z1P>

In other words you want to be able to listen to the channel strip on the board but not send it to USB.    Yes, you can do that.    Each channel has a Send to USB button on it, as well as a USB return button.  Just be sure the send to USB button is disabled, and as long as the main L+R button is enabled on the channel strip, it will come through the headhones jack on the board.

--
My YouTube and SoundCloud pages.

My Band: Lost in Nostalgia
Drum Covers, Video Game Covers, Accessibility Tutorials

Chris:

Thanks much.

So other than through a DAW, I gather that one cannot send the effects to a program such as Zoom, TeamTalk ETC?

Thanks all over the place.

Well depends.

Another one with the 12 mtk. The way you can use the fx, eq, pan etc on the board to print to a recording is by receiving your audio from the PC to the individual usb returns. Set everything how you want and mix it down back to the pC on tracks 13/14. 23/24 in your case.

So in reaper for example you'd set the output for each track to a usb out on the board.

Set the usb return button on those tracks on the board.

Add any fx you want in reaper on those tracks too if you like.

Make your adjustments, arm a track with inputs 23/24 and record.

Otherwise, when just laying down tracks, the audio interface is post gain but pre fader eq and fx.

You can of course just use it as an analogue board bipassing the audio interface with the master outs connected to a separate interface.

Regards

Crhis Turner

On 24/04/21 23:48, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com

Yeah, I'm not sure how you would set it up to use the effects over zoom or the like. Except just using it as an analogue desk connected to another interface of course.

Possibly with some sort of wrangling with virtual audio cable. Actually I have a similar question to ask about this.

CHris

Chris:

 

Thanks much.

 

So other than through a DAW, I gather that one cannot send the effects to a program such as Zoom, TeamTalk ETC?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: rwp@groups.io <rwp@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Turner via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 9:23 AM
To: rwp@groups.io
Subject: Re: [rwp] question for 22mtk users.

 

Well depends.

Another one with the 12 mtk. The way you can use the fx, eq, pan etc on the board to print to a recording is by receiving your audio from the PC to the individual usb returns. Set everything how you want and mix it down back to the pC on tracks 13/14. 23/24 in your case.

 

So in reaper for example you'd set the output for each track to a usb out on the board.

Set the usb return button on those tracks on the board.

Add any fx you want in reaper on those tracks too if you like.

Make your adjustments, arm a track with inputs 23/24 and record.

 

Otherwise, when just laying down tracks, the audio interface is post gain but pre fader eq and fx.

 

You can of course just use it as an analogue board bipassing the audio interface with the master outs connected to a separate interface.

 

Regards

 

Crhis Turner

 

 

 

On 24/04/21 23:48, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Are the effects sent out the USB with the main mix?

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com

-- 

Soundtrack, electronic, synthwave. LostDroid, in all the usual places and;

lostdroid.bandcamp.com