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RAIL GUN TURNTABLES

Gordon Angus Mackinlay
 

Gentlemen,

re the German Vogele Drehscheibe - Vogele turntable appears to be a
necessary and vital accessory for the use of railguns.

Unfortunately! This was not a item that could be used rapidly, whilst a
well trained in its assembly engineer platoon could lay the turntable quite
quickly, it had multiple problems.

In it's assembly, dismantling, re-assembly the item was prone to damage,
they were not mass produced so component parts were not interchangeable, so
if you lost or damaged something you could not canabalised from the next
gun!!!.

Each turntable was specific to the type of railgun used.

The ground base upon which the turntable was assembled had to be totally
level, it had to be totally solid ie. not affected by rain, ground pressure
effects due to the gun firing and movement etc.

Very easily affected by enemy counter-bombardment or air attack, ie. damage
to the structure or it's base by the ground buckling effect of bomb or shell
near misses - let alone direct hits.

Not suitable for targets of opportunity, ie. slow to traverse the gun on the
turntable.

When used in the coast defence role the Germans normally mounted the
turntable onto fixed concrete structures. In most cases not used in a
mobile role when such prepared - there is a Belgium website which shows
such. And such were of limited value as they did not have any form of
protection from air or naval artillery bombardment. Also of limited use
against rapidly moving targets due to the slow traverse.

The Coast Artillery of the German Navy did develop a extremely sophisticated
mobile turntable, but, it had not any form of military use outside of a
research laboratory!!!! A typical Nazi fascination with the complex!

The use of railroad guns during the Second World War was an anachronism,
when tactical air power (or the use of heavy calibre rapid firing artillery)
could do the tasks with greater efficiency - although technically it is a
fascinating subject. The later war German use of such not being related to
a combat philosphy but a sheer lack of anything else of use.

In the case of railroad guns being of use for coast artillery defence, it
was a dead end track. I wrote a little article on the use of railroad
artillery by the US Army Coast Artillery Corps post Great War to its very
rapid demise in 1942, I cannot find the disc at the moment but when I do I
will put it up. A great deal of money spent on a defence project which just
did not work, which per inflation costs were great than the US Army MBT-70
and the Sergeant York air defence system wealth consuming bottomless hole!.
As an example the eight concrete coastal gun positions developed for the
four M1920 14inch guns actually consumed more concrete than the Empire
State Building of the same era. When fired (which was very rare) it took
eight minutes to fire-reload-aim-fire!, possibily of use against a wind
powered opponent, but not it he twentieth century!

Yours,
G/.

Re: Ebay items Oct16

lru29
 

ww1 German heavy gun on turntable, directed by aircraft
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965
&item=2275962890&rd=\
1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=139
65&item=2275962890&r&#92;
d=1>

This is a German WW1 Bettungs-Schiessgerust mounting. The
Germans used this mounting, which was derived from prewar
proof/test mountings, to mount heavy naval guns during the war
for heavy field gun use and coast defense. The calibers used on
this type of mounting were:

21cm S.K. L/40
21cm S.K. L/45
24cm S.K. L/30
24cm S.K. L/40
28cm S.K. L/40
35/38cm S.K. L/45
35,5cm S.K. L/52,5
38cm S.K. L/45

many of these same gun barrels later were mounted on rail
mounts for better mobility. This picture is of one of the guns in
the 21cm to 28cm caliber range, since they resemble each other
closely, it is hard to say exactly which caliber it is. The larger
caliber guns look very different from the smaller caliber ones, so
it is not one of them.

Lee

--- In railwaygun@..., "daniel jackson"
<djaxon@e...> wrote:
Hello, here are some ebay items and a couple of questions.
Dan


wow, a nice book on ww1 german railgun activity.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=61236212
82&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBa
yISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6123621282&ssPageName=ADME:B
:SS:US:1>

ww2 British litho big gun maybe railgun? is it a real item
dipicted?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4074&i
tem=2274341968&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi
ewItem&category=4074&item=2274341968&rd=1>

ww1 tank on flatcar (whipit?),listed as if was captured from
France
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&it
em=2275934413&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi
ewItem&category=921&item=2275934413&rd=1>

what is the big rocket looking item in the flatcar?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=61215002
82<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=61215
00282>

ww2 German flack 88 transported on flat car, nice closeup of
flatcar details
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048
&item=2274155912&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=36048&item=2274155912&rd=1>

railgun, ww1, unknown details, nice camo, large picture
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=135&it
em=2275563351&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi
ewItem&category=135&item=2275563351&rd=1>

ww1 German 42 cm shell comic postcard GUN BERTA
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&it
em=2275743458&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi
ewItem&category=921&item=2275743458&rd=1>

1-35th kit of Panzertraggerwagen,ends oct22
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&i
tem=5927710765&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi
ewItem&category=2588&item=5927710765&rd=1>



ww1 German heavy gun on turntable, directed by aircraft
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965
&item=2275962890&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=13965&item=2275962890&rd=1>

ww1 german 21 cm morser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60663
&item=2273669794&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=60663&item=2273669794&rd=1>

Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Ebay items Oct16

Robert E. Duchesneau
 

I can answer two of them.

The British lithograph is a fanciful artist's conception. The actual 13.5"
and 18" guns of WW2 had a conventional railgun appearance, with a "box
girder" type carriage.

On the train, the tank in the foreground is a British-made Whippet. The
tank in the background is one of the British-made "lozenge" tanks, possibly
a Mk IV or Mk V variant. They were probably captured in France rather than
from France.

-Rob D.

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel jackson [mailto:djaxon@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:31 AM
To: railwaygun yahoogroups
Subject: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Ebay items
Oct16


Hello, here are some ebay items and a couple of questions.
Dan


wow, a nice book on ww1 german railgun activity.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6123621282&ssPageName=A
DME:B:SS:US:1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6123621282&
ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1>

ww2 British litho big gun maybe railgun? is it a real item dipicted?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4074&item=227434196
8&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4074&item=2274
341968&rd=1>

ww1 tank on flatcar (whipit?),listed as if was captured from France
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275934413
&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=227593
4413&rd=1>

what is the big rocket looking item in the flatcar?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6121500282<http://cgi.e
bay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6121500282>

ww2 German flack 88 transported on flat car, nice closeup of flatcar
details
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048&item=22741559
12&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048&item=22
74155912&rd=1>

railgun, ww1, unknown details, nice camo, large picture
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=135&item=2275563351
&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=135&item=227556
3351&rd=1>

ww1 German 42 cm shell comic postcard GUN BERTA
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275743458
&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=227574
3458&rd=1>

1-35th kit of Panzertraggerwagen,ends oct22
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=592771076
5&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=5927
710765&rd=1>



ww1 German heavy gun on turntable, directed by aircraft
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965&item=22759628
90&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965&item=22
75962890&rd=1>

ww1 german 21 cm morser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60663&item=22736697
94&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60663&item=22
73669794&rd=1>





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N scale RR artillery on Ebay

Ncentric@...
 

I have a few of my models up right now.
German K5E, N scale
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B:LC:US:1
German 170mm railgun, N scale
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US Army M1938 8 inch railgun, N scale
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German 88mm and flakvieling flakwagons, N scale
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All are my designs utilizing some available rolling stock parts(chasis and
trucks).
Have a gander!
Andy
Ncentricities.com

Ebay items Oct16

daniel jackson <djaxon@...>
 

Hello, here are some ebay items and a couple of questions.
Dan


wow, a nice book on ww1 german railgun activity.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6123621282&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6123621282&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1>

ww2 British litho big gun maybe railgun? is it a real item dipicted?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4074&item=2274341968&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4074&item=2274341968&rd=1>

ww1 tank on flatcar (whipit?),listed as if was captured from France
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275934413&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275934413&rd=1>

what is the big rocket looking item in the flatcar?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6121500282<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6121500282>

ww2 German flack 88 transported on flat car, nice closeup of flatcar details
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048&item=2274155912&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048&item=2274155912&rd=1>

railgun, ww1, unknown details, nice camo, large picture
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=135&item=2275563351&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=135&item=2275563351&rd=1>

ww1 German 42 cm shell comic postcard GUN BERTA
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275743458&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=921&item=2275743458&rd=1>

1-35th kit of Panzertraggerwagen,ends oct22
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=5927710765&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=5927710765&rd=1>



ww1 German heavy gun on turntable, directed by aircraft
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965&item=2275962890&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13965&item=2275962890&rd=1>

ww1 german 21 cm morser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60663&item=2273669794&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60663&item=2273669794&rd=1>

[railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Re: need information on Ger

tompeters30907
 

The Germans used a special portable turntable, the Voegel
turntable(I hope I have the spelling correct), this allowed a
potentially 360 degree field of fire from fixed positions, especially
coastal positions, where there was a need to track and fire
against moving ships. The 38cm and 28cm K5 German guns
definitely used the turntables,there are plenty of photos of them
on them. I assume that the captured French guns were adapted
by the Germans to the turntable too.
Otherwise, they would attempt to fire from a curved piece of track
facing in the direction of the target if there was no time to set up
the turntable. I don't know how long it took to set up or their
speed of movement. I would assume however that the 38cm and
28cm K5 German guns being newer, more modern designs
were faster in and out of combat then the older captured French
rail guns.
A mobile turntable ? I never thought of that. Sounds pretty clever.

thanks,

Tom

[railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Re: need information on Ger

lru29
 

The Germans used a special portable turntable, the Voegel
turntable(I hope I have the spelling correct), this allowed a
potentially 360 degree field of fire from fixed positions, especially
coastal positions, where there was a need to track and fire
against moving ships. The 38cm and 28cm K5 German guns
definitely used the turntables,there are plenty of photos of them
on them. I assume that the captured French guns were adapted
by the Germans to the turntable too.
Otherwise, they would attempt to fire from a curved piece of track
facing in the direction of the target if there was no time to set up
the turntable. I don't know how long it took to set up or their
speed of movement. I would assume however that the 38cm and
28cm K5 German guns being newer, more modern designs
were faster in and out of combat then the older captured French
rail guns.

--- In railwaygun@..., Tom and Lisa P
<gionpeters@c...> wrote:

Lee, another question about the railroad guns in EB Btty 692,
698,
749. Is there any record of how fast these guns could be set
up ?
How fast did they travel ? And something that has stumped
me for
some time..... how did they target a unit when they couldnt
laterally
move the gun ? I understand that they had to move onto a
section of
rail that was in the same general direction of the target, but I
can
imagine that made it quite difficult to target an enemy position.

thanks,

Tom

Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Re: need information on German RR guns....

Robert E. Duchesneau
 

I've read that RR guns were fired from prepared positions that either had a
curved track or a turntable for training the piece. Some of the smaller
guns could be trained on the carriage.

-Rob D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom and Lisa P [mailto:gionpeters@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:49 PM
To: railwaygun@...
Subject: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Re: need
information on German RR guns....



Lee, another question about the railroad guns in EB Btty 692, 698,
749. Is there any record of how fast these guns could be set up ?
How fast did they travel ? And something that has stumped me for
some time..... how did they target a unit when they couldnt laterally
move the gun ? I understand that they had to move onto a section of
rail that was in the same general direction of the target, but I can
imagine that made it quite difficult to target an enemy position.

thanks,

Tom





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Dora train

Peter Ellis <peter.ellis@...>
 

Whilst wandering around a goods yard in the former East Germany, I came
across a bogie chassis that I was told had originally been one of the
ammunition wagons from the Dora trains. It was heavily built and had had
double skinned sides. I'd thought these were all two axle vans. Does
anyone know more?

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Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Digest Number 1118

alygra@...
 

Dear Niall

If you dont have any luck and wish to commission your own rake of vans,
please RSVP to alygra@... and I'll see if I can help.

Regards

Graham

[railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Re: need information on German RR guns....

tompeters30907
 

Lee, another question about the railroad guns in EB Btty 692, 698,
749. Is there any record of how fast these guns could be set up ?
How fast did they travel ? And something that has stumped me for
some time..... how did they target a unit when they couldnt laterally
move the gun ? I understand that they had to move onto a section of
rail that was in the same general direction of the target, but I can
imagine that made it quite difficult to target an enemy position.

thanks,

Tom

French 7mm vehicles

Niall Ferguson
 

I am in the process of modelling a Great War tank train in 7mm For
this I need a 7mm model/kit of one of the Chevaux8/Hommes40 vans that
were in widespread use on the Western Front (In fact any appropriate
French 1914-18 vehicles would be useful. I am visiting Paris in a
couple of weks time. Does anyone know a source of such vehicles/kits
or a shop in centralish Paris for model railways (particularly 7mm)?
Niall ferguson

Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] ebay items oct 7

daniel jackson <djaxon@...>
 

Thanks!
That is quite a description.
Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Cotton<mailto:locowork@...>
To: railwaygun@...<mailto:railwaygun@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] ebay items oct 7


At 04:54 AM 7/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>Hello,
>Some different Ebay items.
>Dan
>
>is this a good video on panzer zug?
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370>>

the babel translation gives the following sounds like a rubbish film


THE TANK PLATOON - VIDEO HOME SYSTEM VIDEO PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: The tank
platoon - 5000 tons steel against SS Totenkopf battalion 2. World war 1944.
In the Slowakei is stationed a SS Eliteeinheit. It is considered as a
strongest war troop the Hitler shank. With unbelievable brutality this dead
head battalion maintains its position. It shoots, burns and mordet
everything down, which places itself to it into the way. Then one uses a
secret weapon, the tank platoon. The tank platoon consists of 5000 tons
steel and is equipped with the largest cannons of the time at that time.
Can SS theunit stop this Kampfkoloss? It begins a dreadful Gemetzel, which
survives hardly someone. Video home system video - approx. 92min. Cartridge
is used, but in good preservation


Yours TONY

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Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] ebay items oct 7

Tony Cotton <locowork@...>
 

At 04:54 AM 7/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:

Hello,
Some different Ebay items.
Dan

is this a good video on panzer zug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370>
the babel translation gives the following sounds like a rubbish film


THE TANK PLATOON - VIDEO HOME SYSTEM VIDEO PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: The tank
platoon - 5000 tons steel against SS Totenkopf battalion 2. World war 1944.
In the Slowakei is stationed a SS Eliteeinheit. It is considered as a
strongest war troop the Hitler shank. With unbelievable brutality this dead
head battalion maintains its position. It shoots, burns and mordet
everything down, which places itself to it into the way. Then one uses a
secret weapon, the tank platoon. The tank platoon consists of 5000 tons
steel and is equipped with the largest cannons of the time at that time.
Can SS theunit stop this Kampfkoloss? It begins a dreadful Gemetzel, which
survives hardly someone. Video home system video - approx. 92min. Cartridge
is used, but in good preservation


Yours TONY

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Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Digest Number 1116

PIBWL <derela@...>
 

mystery armoured train picture, does anyone know what it is?
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To me, it looks a bit like Soviet design - although I haven't seen
such train.



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Michal Derela
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Military Railways videos - V-2 Rockets

Raimondo L.Torelli <thealamo@...>
 

Oct 7 2004
Listers,
I am still checking/organizing my military railways video collection: I have found two more videos missing. If I remember correct the title of the first is "Operation Backfire" and it is a WWII British production on the German V-2 rockets using Prisoners of War as actors, the same ones who were in charge of transporting/loading/firing them. Purpose of the film was to see how they did it.

The second one was in a serie of videos on the Luftwaffe (no. VII ??) and it showed V-2 rockets while being unloaded from the train and loaded on transport trailers to be moved to the launching sites.

Both were available from DD Video (U.K.). However, I have checked their website but I have not been able to find them. I have asked for their catalogue and I am waiting for it. It will take some time to receive it... If anybody knows the above videos and is in a position to suggest me where to get them, I shall appreciate it very much to hear from them! Thanks a lot as usual!

Regards and
Military Model Railroadinmg is More Fun!!

Raimondo
Don't Make Love, Make War: YES! HO Scale!!

Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] Panzerzug video

Raimondo L.Torelli <thealamo@...>
 

At 04.54 07/10/2004 -0400, DAN wrote:
Hello,
Some different Ebay items.
Dan

is this a good video on panzer zug?
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6327147370>
Oct 7 2004

I do not understand German: any possibility to have an English translation of the seller's video review?
I do not understand if it is a film on video or a documentary...
I suppose it is a film on video. However, I have never heard of it. The only film I remember are the one with Burt Lancaster (WWII in France) and another one, a French production using a real German WWII Panzerzug (sorry the title escapes me at the moment).
I have in my collection, the first one, starring Burt Lancaster, but not the second one.
Thank you for any help, as usual!
Regards,
Do Not Make Love, Make War! YES! HO scale!!

Raimondo
Military Model Railroading is More Fun!

ebay items oct 7

daniel jackson <djaxon@...>
 

Re: [railwayguns, armoured trains and Military Railways] ebay items Oct 3

Robert E. Duchesneau
 

ww2 usa railgun on depressed flat, and a very nice birds eye view of railgun
size item in jungle?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13976&item=2272996904
&rd=1<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13976&item=2272
996904&rd=1>

The depressed flat is the US Army 8" railgun carriage. Outriggers were
deployed for firing. The bird's-eye view is of a 16" gun on a fixed "Panama
mount" in Panama. The rail tracks are for ammunition supply.

-Rob D.

ebay items Oct 3

daniel jackson <djaxon@...>