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Re: #Modelling ACW railway gun model #Modelling

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Damn your eyes sir, you’re righT !!

Re: #Modelling ACW railway gun model #Modelling

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I don't see a port to fire the gun through?

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Re: K5 moving

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Here are some. Not the best but all I can find at the moment.

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On 6/19/20 4:47 AM, donaldedgecomb wrote:

Alamo-

Nice train layout guide. I’ve got several Panzerzug reference manuals but they are pretty thin for such a huge subject. Keep me in the loop on your HO K5 build. I’m also doing this in 1/72 and 1/35 thanks to TSM, CMK, Planet Models, etc. I’m doing the Dora too. Now that is a three battalion circus. Any info on the ammo boxcars and sleepers?

I’m also doing a 1/72 build of a coastal fort with all the 18”, 15”, 12”, and mortar guns. The research has been really slow.

Thanks,

Don

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i cant fix the orientation problem - stand on your heads!

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Re: K5 moving

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Alamo-

Nice train layout guide. I’ve got several Panzerzug reference manuals but they are pretty thin for such a huge subject. Keep me in the loop on your HO K5 build. I’m also doing this in 1/72 and 1/35 thanks to TSM, CMK, Planet Models, etc. I’m doing the Dora too. Now that is a three battalion circus. Any info on the ammo boxcars and sleepers?

I’m also doing a 1/72 build of a coastal fort with all the 18”, 15”, 12”, and mortar guns. The research has been really slow.

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Don

Re: K5 moving

Phil Gilson
 


At minute 3:34 the K5 train is shown. Otherwise there's a lot of info and action shots throughout.

Phil, Bklyn


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:48 PM Phaedrus T. Wolfe via groups.io <phaedrus.wolfe=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

A brief description about the Lokomotive used form the K5E :
Transport :

http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_loko.htm

Extracted from the book : Leopold by Jan Coen WIjnstok / ISBN-83-920254-5-8)
Railway batteries equipped with K5 had two guns each. Operating these guns required large numbers of people and a lot of equipment. Gun cres consisted of 42 personnel, 25 of whom were employed in operating the gun. Eight of the gunners were stationed on the loading platform and were involved in hoisting up the round and loading the gun. The rest were on stations around the gun. A further eight were employed in setting fuses and transporting the projectiles and propellant charges to the gun. Three specialists are on hand to operate the generator and maintain the electrical system. Non-commissioned officers oversee aiming, the generator and the ammunition. And of course there are officers in charge of each gun. Beside the gun crews a battery need a staff, administrative personnel, drivers and mechanics to operate and maintain the trains and motor vehicles, cooks etc.
It took three complete trains to transport a railway battery : one for the staff, one each for the guns. Normal transport used steam locomotives, probably Baureihe 50 or 52, the latter was a war version, designed to be built economically, both in material and production time. For deployment, the railway battery used diesel locomotives (WR360C14), since the smoke from steam locomotives tend to give away their position. These steam locomotives may habe only been used to pull the trains to their destination. Since they were Reichsbahn equipment, they would have been re-assigned. Even the cars making up the train were partly Reichsbahn property.

The staff train had the following composition :
Steam Locomotive plus tender, passenger cars, special boxcars with ammunition, box cars with food and field kitchen, a box car with railway equipment, a diesel locomotive, flatbed cars with vehicles, equipment and anti aircraft guns. The train consisted of 34 cars, including locomotives, with a total length of 374m. The gun trains differed slightly from one another. They consist of 24 and 23 cars with a length of 294 and 278 m respectively.  They had both steam and diesel locomotives, a K5, A Munitionszubringerwagen, which was used to transport the generator unit, a set of three box car for the ammunition, a flatbed car with field kitchen, anti aircraft guns, a special car for the firing bed (Schiessbettung) and a car with a crane and turntable parts. The longer train had four, instead of three, passenger cars and a box car with food. The shorter one had two box cars for the armourer (Waffenmeister). In combat configuration, most of the passenger cars and cargo cars would be uncoupled from the train. On a drawing of 24 August 1937 combat configuration was as follows :
Diesel locomotives, two flatbed cars, K5, ammunition supply car with generator, ammunition car 1, ammunition car 2, a box car with temperature control and auxiliary generator, equipment car and a workshop. These are of course official compositions.

Whether or not they were followed to the letter in practice is unknown. This smaller train was shunted into its firing position with the diesel locomotive. The turntable was prepared beforehand.


Phaedrus




On 6/18/2020 3:50 PM, thealamo wrote:
A K5 Eisenbahn  Batterie is composed by 2 (two) cannons, so you are right: 3 trains.  However, Ron has - if I have understood correct - only one K 5, theoretically two trains are enough. Of course to model 2 (two) trains he needs a lot of wagons (read 'money'!) and space!  He has to scratchbuild a disassembled Vogele turntable to be loaded on the second train.  
I know it myself as I am slowly looking for wagons for the first train.  The first 4 wagons on your train diagram seems to be old time 3-axle passenger wagons. Roco makes 2-axle passenger wagons (ref.  64605) 3 Klasse, epoche  2, which can be a good substitute.
I refer to train no. 2 of the train diagram:  what is it the 6-axles wagon no. 20?  What is for?  and the 4-axles wagon no. 21? 
Rivarossi/Hornby has re-released the former Lima K 5 r.r. cannon. Unfortunately without the structure with the derrick and diesel engine.  I know that a resin kit was available but I cannot find it.  Also  no manufacturer makes the ammo boxcars and I don't have any photo of it.  Any help?
The 3-axle diesel  engine to move the K5 while in action is made by Fleischmann (well, it is not cheap!!).  Lima did make it just before it went bankrupt, but I was not able to buy it...  
Maybe a good idea will be to write to Hornby asking to make ammo boxcars and the structure with the diesel engine.  Any opinion about it?

ALAMO


On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:20, Ron Hunt <btlarea@...> wrote:
Thank You!!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:19 AM nr_groups <nrobinson@...> wrote:

There is a K5 train diagram on the Group Pinterest page. - you will have to search for it

So 3 trains were necessary to transport / erect them.



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Re: K5 moving

Phaedrus T. Wolfe
 

A brief description about the Lokomotive used form the K5E :
Transport :

http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_loko.htm

Extracted from the book : Leopold by Jan Coen WIjnstok / ISBN-83-920254-5-8)
Railway batteries equipped with K5 had two guns each. Operating these guns required large numbers of people and a lot of equipment. Gun cres consisted of 42 personnel, 25 of whom were employed in operating the gun. Eight of the gunners were stationed on the loading platform and were involved in hoisting up the round and loading the gun. The rest were on stations around the gun. A further eight were employed in setting fuses and transporting the projectiles and propellant charges to the gun. Three specialists are on hand to operate the generator and maintain the electrical system. Non-commissioned officers oversee aiming, the generator and the ammunition. And of course there are officers in charge of each gun. Beside the gun crews a battery need a staff, administrative personnel, drivers and mechanics to operate and maintain the trains and motor vehicles, cooks etc.
It took three complete trains to transport a railway battery : one for the staff, one each for the guns. Normal transport used steam locomotives, probably Baureihe 50 or 52, the latter was a war version, designed to be built economically, both in material and production time. For deployment, the railway battery used diesel locomotives (WR360C14), since the smoke from steam locomotives tend to give away their position. These steam locomotives may habe only been used to pull the trains to their destination. Since they were Reichsbahn equipment, they would have been re-assigned. Even the cars making up the train were partly Reichsbahn property.

The staff train had the following composition :
Steam Locomotive plus tender, passenger cars, special boxcars with ammunition, box cars with food and field kitchen, a box car with railway equipment, a diesel locomotive, flatbed cars with vehicles, equipment and anti aircraft guns. The train consisted of 34 cars, including locomotives, with a total length of 374m. The gun trains differed slightly from one another. They consist of 24 and 23 cars with a length of 294 and 278 m respectively.  They had both steam and diesel locomotives, a K5, A Munitionszubringerwagen, which was used to transport the generator unit, a set of three box car for the ammunition, a flatbed car with field kitchen, anti aircraft guns, a special car for the firing bed (Schiessbettung) and a car with a crane and turntable parts. The longer train had four, instead of three, passenger cars and a box car with food. The shorter one had two box cars for the armourer (Waffenmeister). In combat configuration, most of the passenger cars and cargo cars would be uncoupled from the train. On a drawing of 24 August 1937 combat configuration was as follows :
Diesel locomotives, two flatbed cars, K5, ammunition supply car with generator, ammunition car 1, ammunition car 2, a box car with temperature control and auxiliary generator, equipment car and a workshop. These are of course official compositions.

Whether or not they were followed to the letter in practice is unknown. This smaller train was shunted into its firing position with the diesel locomotive. The turntable was prepared beforehand.


Phaedrus




On 6/18/2020 3:50 PM, thealamo wrote:
A K5 Eisenbahn  Batterie is composed by 2 (two) cannons, so you are right: 3 trains.  However, Ron has - if I have understood correct - only one K 5, theoretically two trains are enough. Of course to model 2 (two) trains he needs a lot of wagons (read 'money'!) and space!  He has to scratchbuild a disassembled Vogele turntable to be loaded on the second train.  
I know it myself as I am slowly looking for wagons for the first train.  The first 4 wagons on your train diagram seems to be old time 3-axle passenger wagons. Roco makes 2-axle passenger wagons (ref.  64605) 3 Klasse, epoche  2, which can be a good substitute.
I refer to train no. 2 of the train diagram:  what is it the 6-axles wagon no. 20?  What is for?  and the 4-axles wagon no. 21? 
Rivarossi/Hornby has re-released the former Lima K 5 r.r. cannon. Unfortunately without the structure with the derrick and diesel engine.  I know that a resin kit was available but I cannot find it.  Also  no manufacturer makes the ammo boxcars and I don't have any photo of it.  Any help?
The 3-axle diesel  engine to move the K5 while in action is made by Fleischmann (well, it is not cheap!!).  Lima did make it just before it went bankrupt, but I was not able to buy it...  
Maybe a good idea will be to write to Hornby asking to make ammo boxcars and the structure with the diesel engine.  Any opinion about it?

ALAMO


On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:20, Ron Hunt <btlarea@...> wrote:
Thank You!!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:19 AM nr_groups <nrobinson@...> wrote:

There is a K5 train diagram on the Group Pinterest page. - you will have to search for it

So 3 trains were necessary to transport / erect them.



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Re: K5 moving

nr_groups
 

i have a load of hand -written notes, donated to me in the past (? Peter Ellis or RD Fritz) -  When I sort out my scanner, i will copy and upload them.

here is a sample

the heavy artillery ( 2x Gulaschkanone) were carried in their own van

Re: K5 moving

Chuck Walters
 

Alamo, I have the k5 kit you mention. I have recently moved and it is in storage. When I find it I will let you know. Also have conversion kit to make the Hasegawa K 5 HO.
Chuck Walters


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:51 AM, thealamo
<thealamorlt@...> wrote:
A K5 Eisenbahn  Batterie is composed by 2 (two) cannons, so you are right: 3 trains.  However, Ron has - if I have understood correct - only one K 5, theoretically two trains are enough. Of course to model 2 (two) trains he needs a lot of wagons (read 'money'!) and space!  He has to scratchbuild a disassembled Vogele turntable to be loaded on the second train.  
I know it myself as I am slowly looking for wagons for the first train.  The first 4 wagons on your train diagram seems to be old time 3-axle passenger wagons. Roco makes 2-axle passenger wagons (ref.  64605) 3 Klasse, epoche  2, which can be a good substitute.
I refer to train no. 2 of the train diagram:  what is it the 6-axles wagon no. 20?  What is for?  and the 4-axles wagon no. 21? 
Rivarossi/Hornby has re-released the former Lima K 5 r.r. cannon. Unfortunately without the structure with the derrick and diesel engine.  I know that a resin kit was available but I cannot find it.  Also  no manufacturer makes the ammo boxcars and I don't have any photo of it.  Any help?
The 3-axle diesel  engine to move the K5 while in action is made by Fleischmann (well, it is not cheap!!).  Lima did make it just before it went bankrupt, but I was not able to buy it...  
Maybe a good idea will be to write to Hornby asking to make ammo boxcars and the structure with the diesel engine.  Any opinion about it?

ALAMO


On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:20, Ron Hunt <btlarea@...> wrote:
Thank You!!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:19 AM nr_groups <nrobinson@...> wrote:

There is a K5 train diagram on the Group Pinterest page. - you will have to search for it

So 3 trains were necessary to transport / erect them.



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Re: K5 moving

thealamo
 

A K5 Eisenbahn  Batterie is composed by 2 (two) cannons, so you are right: 3 trains.  However, Ron has - if I have understood correct - only one K 5, theoretically two trains are enough. Of course to model 2 (two) trains he needs a lot of wagons (read 'money'!) and space!  He has to scratchbuild a disassembled Vogele turntable to be loaded on the second train.  
I know it myself as I am slowly looking for wagons for the first train.  The first 4 wagons on your train diagram seems to be old time 3-axle passenger wagons. Roco makes 2-axle passenger wagons (ref.  64605) 3 Klasse, epoche  2, which can be a good substitute.
I refer to train no. 2 of the train diagram:  what is it the 6-axles wagon no. 20?  What is for?  and the 4-axles wagon no. 21? 
Rivarossi/Hornby has re-released the former Lima K 5 r.r. cannon. Unfortunately without the structure with the derrick and diesel engine.  I know that a resin kit was available but I cannot find it.  Also  no manufacturer makes the ammo boxcars and I don't have any photo of it.  Any help?
The 3-axle diesel  engine to move the K5 while in action is made by Fleischmann (well, it is not cheap!!).  Lima did make it just before it went bankrupt, but I was not able to buy it...  
Maybe a good idea will be to write to Hornby asking to make ammo boxcars and the structure with the diesel engine.  Any opinion about it?

ALAMO


On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:20, Ron Hunt <btlarea@...> wrote:
Thank You!!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:19 AM nr_groups <nrobinson@...> wrote:

There is a K5 train diagram on the Group Pinterest page. - you will have to search for it

So 3 trains were necessary to transport / erect them.



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Re: K5 moving

Ron Hunt
 

Thank You!!


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:19 AM nr_groups <nrobinson@...> wrote:

There is a K5 train diagram on the Group Pinterest page. - you will have to search for it

So 3 trains were necessary to transport / erect them.



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