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Mother's Family From Podhajce

rnhnicholson@...
 

Hello all, my name is Helena and I am researching my mother's family who lived in Podhajce before the war.  My mother's name was Czarna Kessler,  She had 2 brothers, Chaim and Jacob and a half sister Regina.  


I am just starting my research to trace my mother's early years up until my grandmother and her were deported during the war.  Any information or direction would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you

Helena Nicholson 

Researching Kessler Family in Podhajce pre WWII

Rick Nicholson <rnhnicholson@...>
 

Hello all,

My name is Helena Nicholson.  My mother was born in Podhajce before WWII and lived there until the Germans came thru.  Her name was Czarna Kessler.  She had 2 brothers, Chaim and Jacob, both older than her, and a half-sister Regina.  From the stories I was told, my grandfather raised horses until he passed away.  

I am just beginning my research on my mother and would welcome any information or direction in my search.  

Thank you,

Helena Nicholson

Vanished World Blog features Podhajce

jerome schatten
 

Podhajcers… ah gitten Pesach!  

The forwarded message below is from a friend of mine, Christian Herrmann, who just today has been in Pidhaitsi/Podhajce. He is a constant traveller and blogger. He and friends have been for several years criss-crossing Galicia, Bukovina, Romania, Ukraine, looking for signs of Jewish life and lives past.  Christian’s Blog posts chronicle his travels — basically asking the same question in each place: “Where are the Jews — what happened to them — what is left?”  He paints in photographs and in the words of an an explorer.  

The link below gets you to today’s journey — past explorations can be found at the very end of the page. 

Your moderator and the keeper of the Podhajce page at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/podhajce
Jerome Schatten
Vancouver, Canada

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Christian Herrmann" <cyberorange@...>
Date: April 15, 2017 at 14:54:43 PDT
To: "Czernowitz Mailing-Liste" <Czernowitz-L@...>, "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept@...>, "jerome schatten" <romers@...>, "Bruce Reisch" <bruce.reisch@...>

Dear all,

If you travel in Galicia, you are crossing a continent. The region is a compaction of European history. Leaving Chortkiv in the morning, my friends and I have been to Buchach, Monastyryska, Pidhaitsi and Peremyshliany today. A day of discoveries – pleasant and painful ones.

https://vanishedworld.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/a-long-way-back-to-lviv/

As we have been to Pidaitsi, this blog post comes along with special greetings to Jerome Schatten, whos ancestors came from Pidhaitsi! Thank you for everything, Jerome!

Best from Lviv (Lwów, Lemberg),
Christian

anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

JK
 

Hello All,

Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?

The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.

I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.

regards,
Jeff Kellner

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

good_old_reliable
 

If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!

[please sign your posts --thanks]

-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
Hello All,

Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?

The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.

I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.

regards,
Jeff Kellner

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

JK
 

If anyone lives near a LDS (Mormon) research center, you can get access to these military records but you have to go in person. They might politely give you a spiel about their church.

There are many centers around the world.

I read that many Polish records were destroyed during the destruction of Warsaw but on the off chance the Lviv archives retained the west Ukrainian records of Austrian soldiers (and were then photographed by the LDS), maybe they exist after all.

[Jeff Kellner]


From: "CirrusJSB@... [podhajce]"
To: podhajce@...
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?



If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!

[please sign your posts --thanks]

-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
Hello All,

Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?

The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.

I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.

regards,
Jeff Kellner





Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

susan farb
 

There is a very good free website, which may have it.  It is:  UKR-Gensearch (Gen Team).  They have extensive records of all types.

Susan Farb
Dallas, TX
Researching FARB/LEVY
 
Never give up.  And never, under any circumstances, face the facts.~Ruth Gordon



From: "CirrusJSB@... [podhajce]"
To: podhajce@...
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!

[please sign your posts --thanks]

-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
Hello All,

Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?

The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.

I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.

regards,
Jeff Kellner



Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Soraya
 

Hello Jeff,

I'm doing my research about my family, borned in Bekersdorf Podhajce.
I'm doing it  at Mormon Church,in my city and the place is History Family Center where we can also ask for microfilms there. 
They never did that "proselytizing spiel". I was afraid about it too but never happened to me.
Sometimes, someone start to talking about their subjects but nothing that you have to heard.
I suggest you to go there and try. It helps me a lot.

Best Regards
Soraya B. Tony

 
 

 

 

De: "CirrusJSB@... [podhajce]"
Enviada: 2017/04/16 12:37:16
Para: podhajce@...
Assunto: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?
 
 

 

If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!
 
[please sign your posts --thanks]

 
-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
 
 
Hello All,
 
Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?
 
The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.
 
I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.
 
regards,
Jeff Kellner
 
 
 

 

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Carol Cohen
 

They did give me the spiel.  I learned that a distant cousin of mine who married a Morman lady had previously agreed to my ancestor’s conversion.  After responding and refusing this conversion, supposedly the act has been removed.  However not until every relative of mine that I could find responded that the “cousin” who gave permission, did not have permission from us.  Carol Cohen

Thank you, Carol Cohen


On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Soraya sbrixi@... [podhajce] <podhajce@...> wrote:

Hello Jeff,

I'm doing my research about my family, borned in Bekersdorf Podhajce.
I'm doing it  at Mormon Church,in my city and the place is History Family Center where we can also ask for microfilms there. 
They never did that "proselytizing spiel". I was afraid about it too but never happened to me.
Sometimes, someone start to talking about their subjects but nothing that you have to heard.
I suggest you to go there and try. It helps me a lot.

Best Regards
Soraya B. Tony

 

 
 
 

De: "CirrusJSB@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...>
Enviada: 2017/04/16 12:37:16
Para: podhajce@...
Assunto: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?
 
 
 
If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!
 
[please sign your posts --thanks]
 
-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
 
 
Hello All,
 
Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?
 
The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.
 
I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.
 
regards,
Jeff Kellner
 
 
 
 


Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Soraya
 

 
HI Carol,
Sorry about that. So, I'm lucky, because I didn´t have this problem.
Probably it depends on the people that you meet.
:(

Soraya 

 

 

De: "Carol Cohen cgandhc@... [podhajce]"
Enviada: 2017/04/17 18:55:14
Para: podhajce@...
Assunto: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?
 
 

 

They did give me the spiel.  I learned that a distant cousin of mine who married a Morman lady had previously agreed to my ancestor’s conversion.  After responding and refusing this conversion, supposedly the act has been removed.  However not until every relative of mine that I could find responded that the “cousin” who gave permission, did not have permission from us.  Carol Cohen
 
Thank you, Carol Cohen

 
On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Soraya sbrixi@... [podhajce] <podhajce@...> wrote:
 

Hello Jeff,

I'm doing my research about my family, borned in Bekersdorf Podhajce.
I'm doing it  at Mormon Church,in my city and the place is History Family Center where we can also ask for microfilms there. 
They never did that "proselytizing spiel". I was afraid about it too but never happened to me.
Sometimes, someone start to talking about their subjects but nothing that you have to heard.
I suggest you to go there and try. It helps me a lot.

Best Regards
Soraya B. Tony

 

 
 
 

De: "CirrusJSB@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...>
Enviada: 2017/04/16 12:37:16
Para: podhajce@...
Assunto: Re: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?
 
 
 
If anyone has luck on this quest, please let me know as well.  Thanks!
 
[please sign your posts --thanks]
 
-----Original Message-----
From: JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]
To: podhajce
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 10:33 am
Subject: [podhajce] anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 
 
 
Hello All,
 
Just curious, has anyone found any online Austrian military records for pre-WW1 Podhajcers?
 
The online Mormon Church database seems to have them but you need some kind of special clearance
that their online representative was unable to give me.
 
I spoke to someone working at the Mormon Church in Vienna, Austria (where I live) and they said if I go to their
center they will give me access, but only onsite, where I assume I will be given a proselytizing spiel.
 
regards,
Jeff Kellner
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jerome Schatten
 

Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/  both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner.  

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...




Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Magda Bogin
 

Good move! 
Admire your stand.

Thank you and greetings.


Magda Bogin, Director



On May 26, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...> wrote:

Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/  both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner.  

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...





Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jill Rothwell
 

Thank you Jerome for your efforts. I was in Podhajce about 18 months ago when I visited three nearby hamlets of Laskivtsi, Mateushivka and Vivsya. My great grandfather, Samuel BIEDER started life as a goose herd in Laskivtsi and ended up running a large leased estate with distillery at Vivsya. Today these remote Ruthenian hamlets look poor, run down with few people and crumbling houses along both sides of a lumpy pot holed track which in winter would turn to mud. Any young have left for the cities, mechanisation is low with mainly horses and carts and a few Soviet era army vehicles. The land/steppe is very horizontal with rich black soil. 
Few Jews would have lived in these hamlets but anyone with any connections here it would be great to connect.
Jill Bieder (Rothwell)
Auckland, New Zealand

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jerome Schatten
 

Hi Jill and good good to hear from you again!

Did you by any chance take any photos on your journey through the hamlets? If so, you can post them to the website. I’m not quite sure how that works with the new site, but I’ll take a few moments to find out. I’m sure others would be interested in such photos if you have them.

All the best,
jerome

On May 26, 2018, at 00:36, jillrothwell@... wrote:

Thank you Jerome for your efforts. I was in Podhajce about 18 months ago when I visited three nearby hamlets of Laskivtsi, Mateushivka and Vivsya. My great grandfather, Samuel BIEDER started life as a goose herd in Laskivtsi and ended up running a large leased estate with distillery at Vivsya. Today these remote Ruthenian hamlets look poor, run down with few people and crumbling houses along both sides of a lumpy pot holed track which in winter would turn to mud. Any young have left for the cities, mechanisation is low with mainly horses and carts and a few Soviet era army vehicles. The land/steppe is very horizontal with rich black soil.
Few Jews would have lived in these hamlets but anyone with any connections here it would be great to connect.
Jill Bieder (Rothwell)
Auckland, New Zealand

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

jerome schatten
 

Thanks Magda for letting us know there are still warm bodies interested in things Podhajce!
Best,
jerome

On May 25, 2018, at 23:05, Magda Bogin <director@...> wrote:

Good move!
Admire your stand.

Thank you and greetings.


Magda Bogin, Director
Under the Volcano



On May 26, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...> wrote:

Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner.

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...



Yat2: yet another test -- from dummy user

Yosl
 

xxxooo -- testing with dummy user

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jill Rothwell
 

I’d be delighted to send some photos to the website. I’ll give it a go myself but I may need some help. I’ll let you know, Jill

Photos for the Group

Jerome Schatten
 

Great Jill… I did some testing and got the photos working, so if you run into difficulty let me know. BTW, I changed the name of the thread to better reflect what we’re doing.
jerome

On May 26, 2018, at 23:33, jillrothwell@... wrote:

I’d be delighted to send some photos to the website. I’ll give it a go myself but I may need some help. I’ll let you know, Jill

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 

I have found a program that gets around the downloading restrictions on the familysearch.org films for Podhajce.  I’ve been trying to put together my Wojciechowski tree.  In time, I will download all the films from Podhajce to build our own accessible database to share with the group. 

I have one one folder downloaded so far, Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868, Marriages 1876-1898, Deaths 1878-1898, Births, marriages, deaths 1878-1881

Here is the link:  ps://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

i
f anyone needs to reach me, my email is Samueljorlando@...

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Caryl Foster
 

This is all so wonderful!  Thanks for letting me part of it.  My great grandmother was from Podhajce.  Her last name was Schimel.  First name was Chinka.  She married Moses Hutz from Kozowa and my grandmother was born there.....Cirl Chancia Hutz.  
May I ask, if anyone has visited Podhajce, is it a safe place to go to?  Do I need a guide?  Where do I fly in to?  I would love to visit Podhajce and Kozowa.  I am a flight attendant so I can do all of this for very little money.  I just do not know how to begin.
Any help would be appreciated!!
I can be reached at caryl_foster@...
If I posted this in error I do apologize.  I'm a bit computer illiterate!
Thanks!
Caryl


On Sunday, May 27, 2018 10:22 AM, Sam Orlando <samueljorlando@...> wrote:


I have found a program that gets around the downloading restrictions on the familysearch.org films for Podhajce.  I’ve been trying to put together my Wojciechowski tree.  In time, I will download all the films from Podhajce to build our own accessible database to share with the group. 

I have one one folder downloaded so far, Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868, Marriages 1876-1898, Deaths 1878-1898, Births, marriages, deaths 1878-1881

Here is the link:  ps://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

i
f anyone needs to reach me, my email is Samueljorlando@...