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Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jill Rothwell
 

Thank you Jerome for your efforts. I was in Podhajce about 18 months ago when I visited three nearby hamlets of Laskivtsi, Mateushivka and Vivsya. My great grandfather, Samuel BIEDER started life as a goose herd in Laskivtsi and ended up running a large leased estate with distillery at Vivsya. Today these remote Ruthenian hamlets look poor, run down with few people and crumbling houses along both sides of a lumpy pot holed track which in winter would turn to mud. Any young have left for the cities, mechanisation is low with mainly horses and carts and a few Soviet era army vehicles. The land/steppe is very horizontal with rich black soil. 
Few Jews would have lived in these hamlets but anyone with any connections here it would be great to connect.
Jill Bieder (Rothwell)
Auckland, New Zealand

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jerome Schatten
 

Hi Jill and good good to hear from you again!

Did you by any chance take any photos on your journey through the hamlets? If so, you can post them to the website. I’m not quite sure how that works with the new site, but I’ll take a few moments to find out. I’m sure others would be interested in such photos if you have them.

All the best,
jerome

On May 26, 2018, at 00:36, jillrothwell@... wrote:

Thank you Jerome for your efforts. I was in Podhajce about 18 months ago when I visited three nearby hamlets of Laskivtsi, Mateushivka and Vivsya. My great grandfather, Samuel BIEDER started life as a goose herd in Laskivtsi and ended up running a large leased estate with distillery at Vivsya. Today these remote Ruthenian hamlets look poor, run down with few people and crumbling houses along both sides of a lumpy pot holed track which in winter would turn to mud. Any young have left for the cities, mechanisation is low with mainly horses and carts and a few Soviet era army vehicles. The land/steppe is very horizontal with rich black soil.
Few Jews would have lived in these hamlets but anyone with any connections here it would be great to connect.
Jill Bieder (Rothwell)
Auckland, New Zealand

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

jerome schatten
 

Thanks Magda for letting us know there are still warm bodies interested in things Podhajce!
Best,
jerome

On May 25, 2018, at 23:05, Magda Bogin <director@...> wrote:

Good move!
Admire your stand.

Thank you and greetings.


Magda Bogin, Director
Under the Volcano



On May 26, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...> wrote:

Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner.

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...



Yat2: yet another test -- from dummy user

Yosl
 

xxxooo -- testing with dummy user

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jill Rothwell
 

I’d be delighted to send some photos to the website. I’ll give it a go myself but I may need some help. I’ll let you know, Jill

Photos for the Group

Jerome Schatten
 

Great Jill… I did some testing and got the photos working, so if you run into difficulty let me know. BTW, I changed the name of the thread to better reflect what we’re doing.
jerome

On May 26, 2018, at 23:33, jillrothwell@... wrote:

I’d be delighted to send some photos to the website. I’ll give it a go myself but I may need some help. I’ll let you know, Jill

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 

I have found a program that gets around the downloading restrictions on the familysearch.org films for Podhajce.  I’ve been trying to put together my Wojciechowski tree.  In time, I will download all the films from Podhajce to build our own accessible database to share with the group. 

I have one one folder downloaded so far, Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868, Marriages 1876-1898, Deaths 1878-1898, Births, marriages, deaths 1878-1881

Here is the link:  ps://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

i
f anyone needs to reach me, my email is Samueljorlando@...

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Caryl Foster
 

This is all so wonderful!  Thanks for letting me part of it.  My great grandmother was from Podhajce.  Her last name was Schimel.  First name was Chinka.  She married Moses Hutz from Kozowa and my grandmother was born there.....Cirl Chancia Hutz.  
May I ask, if anyone has visited Podhajce, is it a safe place to go to?  Do I need a guide?  Where do I fly in to?  I would love to visit Podhajce and Kozowa.  I am a flight attendant so I can do all of this for very little money.  I just do not know how to begin.
Any help would be appreciated!!
I can be reached at caryl_foster@...
If I posted this in error I do apologize.  I'm a bit computer illiterate!
Thanks!
Caryl


On Sunday, May 27, 2018 10:22 AM, Sam Orlando <samueljorlando@...> wrote:


I have found a program that gets around the downloading restrictions on the familysearch.org films for Podhajce.  I’ve been trying to put together my Wojciechowski tree.  In time, I will download all the films from Podhajce to build our own accessible database to share with the group. 

I have one one folder downloaded so far, Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868, Marriages 1876-1898, Deaths 1878-1898, Births, marriages, deaths 1878-1881

Here is the link:  ps://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

i
f anyone needs to reach me, my email is Samueljorlando@...


Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Jerome Schatten
 

Sam… the beginning of the link was truncated… It should be:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

That said: the folder at that location ‘Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868…' was reported as being empty. You might want to give that another look?

Best,
jerome

On May 27, 2018, at 10:22, Sam Orlando <samueljorlando@...> wrote:

I have found a program that gets around the downloading restrictions on the familysearch.org films for Podhajce. I’ve been trying to put together my Wojciechowski tree. In time, I will download all the films from Podhajce to build our own accessible database to share with the group.

I have one one folder downloaded so far, Podhajce - Marriages 1826-1868, Marriages 1876-1898, Deaths 1878-1898, Births, marriages, deaths 1878-1881

Here is the link: ps://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

if anyone needs to reach me, my email is Samueljorlando@...

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jean Rosenbaum
 

Thanks Jerome for continuing your service to Podhajce researchers for so many years.
 
Jean Rosenbaum
 

From: Jerome Schatten
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 6:39 PM
To: podhajce@groups.io
Subject: [podhajce-io] Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing
 
Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/  both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner. 

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...




Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Jerome Schatten
 

And thank you for starting the List in the first place, and your work in getting the Podhajce Yizkor book published, and, and….
Best,
jerome

On May 27, 2018, at 11:51, Jean Rosenbaum <jrosenbaum1417@...> wrote:

Thanks Jerome for continuing your service to Podhajce researchers for so many years.

Jean Rosenbaum

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 

Jerome,

I apologize for the truncated link.  I was trying to post it from my phone.  Additionally, the file was empty because I was uploading a large amount of files and it had not yet started to update the folder.  The images are now uploading to the folder. 

Again, here is the link:  https://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

I won't be able to get to the family history library for about another week.  I will try to download another folder from Podhajce while I am there.  I am splitting my time between researching my Italian family on my father's side, and my Polish family on my mothers.  My maternal grandmother's father's family were Wojciechowski's from Podhajce.  My maternal grandmother's mother's family were from Podkamien.

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Jerome Schatten
 

Hi Sam… Perfect a - great job, nice high resolution which should make it quite useful for those who can decipher the Polish cursive writing (a job in itself, I guess).

Thanks,
jerome

On May 27, 2018, at 13:16, Sam Orlando <samueljorlando@...> wrote:

Jerome,

I apologize for the truncated link. I was trying to post it from my phone. Additionally, the file was empty because I was uploading a large amount of files and it had not yet started to update the folder. The images are now uploading to the folder.

Again, here is the link: https://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

I won't be able to get to the family history library for about another week. I will try to download another folder from Podhajce while I am there. I am splitting my time between researching my Italian family on my father's side, and my Polish family on my mothers. My maternal grandmother's father's family were Wojciechowski's from Podhajce. My maternal grandmother's mother's family were from Podkamien.

Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

Cynthia Singer
 

Hi Sam,
Thanks for the explanation. Yes, the files are all there now. Wonderful that you were able to do this.
I'd love to find my great grandparents marriage. Walfisch and Breiter.
Any help is most greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Cynthia Singer

On May 27, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...> wrote:

Hi Sam… Perfect a - great job, nice high resolution which should make it quite useful for those who can decipher the Polish cursive writing (a job in itself, I guess).

Thanks,
jerome

On May 27, 2018, at 13:16, Sam Orlando <samueljorlando@...> wrote:

Jerome,

I apologize for the truncated link. I was trying to post it from my phone. Additionally, the file was empty because I was uploading a large amount of files and it had not yet started to update the folder. The images are now uploading to the folder.

Again, here is the link: https://1drv.ms/f/s!As-IUF0Wfp2Zj-YBTcP7bJVuZ-rF5Q

I won't be able to get to the family history library for about another week. I will try to download another folder from Podhajce while I am there. I am splitting my time between researching my Italian family on my father's side, and my Polish family on my mothers. My maternal grandmother's father's family were Wojciechowski's from Podhajce. My maternal grandmother's mother's family were from Podkamien.


Farb/Lerner

susan farb
 

 Thought I'd list my Farb/Lerner family.  My gg-grandfather was Avrum Farb, married to Dwora.  His son, Aaron, came to Galveston, TX.  Later, my g-grandmother, Feiga Lerner came to marry him.  Thank you again, Jean Rosenbaum, for helping me find her Ellis Island record. 

Susan Farb
 
Never give up.  And never, under any circumstances, face the facts.~Ruth Gordon



From: Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...>
To: podhajce@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [podhajce-io] Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

And thank you for starting the List in the first place, and your work in getting the Podhajce Yizkor book published, and, and….
Best,
jerome


> On May 27, 2018, at 11:51, Jean Rosenbaum <jrosenbaum1417@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jerome for continuing your service to Podhajce researchers for so many years.
>
> Jean Rosenbaum
>





Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Randall Babtkis
 

YES, thank you Jerome for taking good care of us and for building a new link.

Like Jill, and some others here, I visited Podhajce in late 2016, along with my cousin Margaret Hellman of Copenhagen, and my wife, writer Carolyn Cooke. It was my second visit, though no easier to get around those rutted roads than in 2011. It seemed there were a few more cars, and a few less donkey carts slowing us down, but the infrastructure has not been improved since the Soviet era. Alex Dunai aldunai@... of Lviv was our driver/translator. In 2016 we drove a bit further to visit two more villages, Vyshnivchyk and Issakow, mentioned in family documents. Issakow possibly holds a key to the origins to my mother’s family name, Esecover.

Unlike Podhajce and Vyshnivchyk, Issakow was not really a Jewish populated village  – no Hebrew graveyard there. But we managed to hear, firsthand, at least one living memory of a next-door-neighbor presence: kids playing together in the open space between Jewish and non-Jewish houses, before the war. 

Regarding Caryl Foster's question yesterday, my experience was that Ukraine is not an effortless (or uncomplicated) country to visit. We reached Podhajce, via an overnight train from Krakow, Poland, not far from to the beautiful and crumbling city of Lviv. Alex arranged a hotel there on my first trip in 2011, picked me up the next morning, and drove us to Podhajce. The drive lasted about two hours, each way. Carolyn noticed a detail I missed on my first drive with Alex – a baseball bat he carries in the back seat of his Mitsubishi Outlander.

Podhajce, like Issakow and Vyshnivchyk all emptied of Jewish life – those villages still exist! Hope to get back again one day soon.

Randall Babtkis


Re: anyone have luck finding Austro-Hungarian military records?

 

For all those interested in the software that I used...

Here is a link to the program.  https://genealogiafb.blogspot.pt/2015/04/ferramentas-java-para-download-de.html

It used to work much better with the familysearch site.  When I first found it, you could download 3000 images in about 30 minutes. Now, familysearch imposes restrictions on the software.  It can download only 40 images every 10 minutes or 240 images every hour.  There are ways to get around this, though.  However, you need more than one email address, and you need to create more than one familysearch account.  To download images that are restricted, you need to be a family history center in order for the software to work.  In the options section of the software, you need to enter your familysearch username and password.  Once you copy the link to the images you want and paste it into the program, it should begin downloading the images.  Once it downloads 40 images, it will stop and won't start again for another 10 minutes.  If you create more than once account, you can go back to options, enter the credentials of your other account, close the program and reopen it.  When you reopen it, it will automatically be logged into your other account and should begin to download the images.  I rotate between 3 accounts, I am able to download about 2400 images in 4 hours.  The program's language is written in Portuguese....

Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Caryl Foster
 

Thanks so much for the in sight Randall!!!!


On Monday, May 28, 2018 9:41 AM, Randall Babtkis <tsilent@...> wrote:


YES, thank you Jerome for taking good care of us and for building a new link.

Like Jill, and some others here, I visited Podhajce in late 2016, along with my cousin Margaret Hellman of Copenhagen, and my wife, writer Carolyn Cooke. It was my second visit, though no easier to get around those rutted roads than in 2011. It seemed there were a few more cars, and a few less donkey carts slowing us down, but the infrastructure has not been improved since the Soviet era. Alex Dunai aldunai@... of Lviv was our driver/translator. In 2016 we drove a bit further to visit two more villages, Vyshnivchyk and Issakow, mentioned in family documents. Issakow possibly holds a key to the origins to my mother’s family name, Esecover.

Unlike Podhajce and Vyshnivchyk, Issakow was not really a Jewish populated village  – no Hebrew graveyard there. But we managed to hear, firsthand, at least one living memory of a next-door-neighbor presence: kids playing together in the open space between Jewish and non-Jewish houses, before the war. 

Regarding Caryl Foster's question yesterday, my experience was that Ukraine is not an effortless (or uncomplicated) country to visit. We reached Podhajce, via an overnight train from Krakow, Poland, not far from to the beautiful and crumbling city of Lviv. Alex arranged a hotel there on my first trip in 2011, picked me up the next morning, and drove us to Podhajce. The drive lasted about two hours, each way. Carolyn noticed a detail I missed on my first drive with Alex – a baseball bat he carries in the back seat of his Mitsubishi Outlander.

Podhajce, like Issakow and Vyshnivchyk all emptied of Jewish life – those villages still exist! Hope to get back again one day soon.

Randall Babtkis




Re: Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

Ellen Epstein
 

Thanks for sending me the link to the new group.

I'm still trying to find out about my grandmother, Chane/Hannah Goldfleiss and her family from Podhajce.  I've encountered several emails and articles and think that her last name might have been anglicized to Goldfleiss from Goldflysch, Goldfleisch or Goldflisch.  

I'm hoping that maybe someone in the group might have some knowledge with a family with the last name of Goldflysch, Goldfleisch or Goldflisch from Podhajce.

Thanks in advance for all of your help,
Ellen Epstein

On Sunday, May 27, 2018, 1:51:48 PM CDT, Jean Rosenbaum <jrosenbaum1417@...> wrote:


Thanks Jerome for continuing your service to Podhajce researchers for so many years.
 
Jean Rosenbaum
 
From: Jerome Schatten
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 6:39 PM
To: podhajce@groups.io
Subject: [podhajce-io] Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing
 
Greetings Podhajcers...

By now 79 of the 99 members of this group should have received a notice that I have moved the group from Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO. 20 email addresses bounced during the transition, and they, if they ever figure it out, those folks whose email has bounced will have to join the new group.

If you indeed received a notice, then you should be good to go. The URL of the new site is http://groups.io/g/podhajce/ It should allow you to send and receive messages just as before without changing your login name or password or anything else. The two interfaces, old and new look pretty much the same.

The main reason for switching to another provider for our discussion group is the miserable performance of Yahoo in protecting your data (and mine), and in general their new privacy policies which I could not in good conscience commit to, and by extension, commit you to.

For now, both portals should work. That is, if you post to, or read posts from http://groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/ OR http://groups.io/g/podhajce/  both should work and both should continue sending you mail. That said, after a while, the Yahoo group will not work because I will have not agreed to their privacy policy as a group owner. 

So there you are... Hopefully, either the new group's website on-line help can answer you questions, or I can try.

The best to you all and let's hope for more Podhajce group activity in the future than in the last year <g>.

Jerome Schatten
Group Owner for groups.io/g/podhajce/ & groups.yahoo.com/podhajce/
iromicu@...




Re: Farb/Lerner

Carol Cohen
 

I am related to Feign Lerner, Susan - Email me above  Carol Cohen

On May 27, 2018, at 8:50 PM, susan farb via Groups.Io <muffy3122000@...> wrote:

 Thought I'd list my Farb/Lerner family.  My gg-grandfather was Avrum Farb, married to Dwora.  His son, Aaron, came to Galveston, TX.  Later, my g-grandmother, Feiga Lerner came to marry him.  Thank you again, Jean Rosenbaum, for helping me find her Ellis Island record. 

Susan Farb
 
Never give up.  And never, under any circumstances, face the facts.~Ruth Gordon



From: Jerome Schatten <iromicu@...>
To: podhajce@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [podhajce-io] Test Yahoo Podhajce Group > Groups.io Podhajce Group... Testing

And thank you for starting the List in the first place, and your work in getting the Podhajce Yizkor book published, and, and….
Best,
jerome


> On May 27, 2018, at 11:51, Jean Rosenbaum <jrosenbaum1417@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jerome for continuing your service to Podhajce researchers for so many years.
>
> Jean Rosenbaum
>