Date   

Re: Just Starting...

Stacy Dick
 

Thanks, Donald...I appreciate the advice and guidance.
Stacy



From: "DONALD RIGER donriger@... [podhajce]"
To: podhajce@...
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [podhajce] Just Starting...

 
Stacy,

Just a few thoughts,

1. Jewish Genealogy takes time--be patient.
2. Some records from Podhajce do exist( fortunately the nazis didn't destroy them all).
3. Talk to cousins who may have heard something from their parents.
4. Join Jewish Gen
5. Consider getting your DNA tested. You may end up finding cousins that may help you.
6. Research Stevemorse.org

Good luck,

Donald Riger





On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:04 AM, "Stacy Dick ssdnyc@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:

 
I am at the very beginning of my efforts to research my family origins in Podhajce. 

How  do I even know about Podhajce? Well, two reasons: (1) before he died, my father told me that his father had come from (phonetically) "puhd-AY-itz", and (2) my grandfather and grandmother (who came to the US in the 1900-1910 period, already married with 3 young kids) are buried in one of the Podhajce landsmanschaft cemetery areas at Mt Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY. 

I have my grandfather's US immigration and naturalization papers, including the name of the ship he came over on, but before Ellis Island, it's all a big blank. (Well, not entirely....family lore has it that he bore his father's first name because his dad was killed - by a kick from a horse - before he was even born...hence Shlomo ben Shlomo.) From various documents, I've got his stated birth date (and presumably a good start on his father's date of death.) Also, the approximate ages of their children (from US census data). Given the birth date of their eldest child, that would also help narrow down the date of my grandparents' marriage. I have ZERO background - other than a maiden name - for my grandmother, but would it be unreasonable to assume that she came from someplace nearby?

I would love to learn more about the family's origins in Podhajce. Can anyone advise me on how best to get started?   

Many thanks,
Stacy



Re: Just Starting...

Don
 

Stacy,

Just a few thoughts,

1. Jewish Genealogy takes time--be patient.
2. Some records from Podhajce do exist( fortunately the nazis didn't destroy them all).
3. Talk to cousins who may have heard something from their parents.
4. Join Jewish Gen
5. Consider getting your DNA tested. You may end up finding cousins that may help you.
6. Research Stevemorse.org

Good luck,

Donald Riger



On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:04 AM, "Stacy Dick ssdnyc@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:

 

I am at the very beginning of my efforts to research my family origins in Podhajce. 

How  do I even know about Podhajce? Well, two reasons: (1) before he died, my father told me that his father had come from (phonetically) "puhd-AY-itz", and (2) my grandfather and grandmother (who came to the US in the 1900-1910 period, already married with 3 young kids) are buried in one of the Podhajce landsmanschaft cemetery areas at Mt Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY. 

I have my grandfather's US immigration and naturalization papers, including the name of the ship he came over on, but before Ellis Island, it's all a big blank. (Well, not entirely....family lore has it that he bore his father's first name because his dad was killed - by a kick from a horse - before he was even born...hence Shlomo ben Shlomo.) From various documents, I've got his stated birth date (and presumably a good start on his father's date of death.) Also, the approximate ages of their children (from US census data). Given the birth date of their eldest child, that would also help narrow down the date of my grandparents' marriage. I have ZERO background - other than a maiden name - for my grandmother, but would it be unreasonable to assume that she came from someplace nearby?

I would love to learn more about the family's origins in Podhajce. Can anyone advise me on how best to get started?   

Many thanks,
Stacy


Just Starting...

Stacy Dick
 

I am at the very beginning of my efforts to research my family origins in Podhajce. 

How  do I even know about Podhajce? Well, two reasons: (1) before he died, my father told me that his father had come from (phonetically) "puhd-AY-itz", and (2) my grandfather and grandmother (who came to the US in the 1900-1910 period, already married with 3 young kids) are buried in one of the Podhajce landsmanschaft cemetery areas at Mt Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY. 

I have my grandfather's US immigration and naturalization papers, including the name of the ship he came over on, but before Ellis Island, it's all a big blank. (Well, not entirely....family lore has it that he bore his father's first name because his dad was killed - by a kick from a horse - before he was even born...hence Shlomo ben Shlomo.) From various documents, I've got his stated birth date (and presumably a good start on his father's date of death.) Also, the approximate ages of their children (from US census data). Given the birth date of their eldest child, that would also help narrow down the date of my grandparents' marriage. I have ZERO background - other than a maiden name - for my grandmother, but would it be unreasonable to assume that she came from someplace nearby?

I would love to learn more about the family's origins in Podhajce. Can anyone advise me on how best to get started?   

Many thanks,
Stacy


Re: Shoah Foundation Archives

Caryl Foster <caryl_foster@...>
 

Thank you Jean! I watched the available one and my heart broke for her. Very moving!

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:12 AM, "Cynthia Singer CLS316@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:







Thank you Jean.
Cindy
On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:52 PM, mervinr@... [podhajce] <podhajce@...> wrote:





The
Shoah Foundation has collected testimonies from nearly 52,000 Holocaust
survivors. These testimonies are searchable by going to vhaonline.usc.edu
Once at that site, the archives may be searched by name or by key
words. I searched by using Podhajce and found 33 testimonies. Only
one had the
interview on line. The others had only printed data. However,
these may be viewed at one of the many institutions scattered throughout the US
and
other parts of the world. A list of these institutions is included at
this website.

Jean
Rosenbaum


Re: Shoah Foundation Archives

Cynthia Singer
 

Thank you Jean. 
Cindy


On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:52 PM, mervinr@... [podhajce] <podhajce@...> wrote:

 

The Shoah Foundation has collected testimonies from nearly 52,000 Holocaust survivors.  These testimonies are searchable by going to vhaonline.usc.edu 
Once at that site, the archives may be searched by name or by key words.  I searched by using Podhajce and found 33 testimonies.  Only one had the
interview on line.  The others had only printed data.  However, these may be viewed at one of the many institutions scattered throughout the US and
other parts of the world.  A list of these institutions is included at this website.
 
Jean Rosenbaum


Shoah Foundation Archives

mervinr@...
 

The Shoah Foundation has collected testimonies from nearly 52,000 Holocaust survivors.  These testimonies are searchable by going to vhaonline.usc.edu 
Once at that site, the archives may be searched by name or by key words.  I searched by using Podhajce and found 33 testimonies.  Only one had the
interview on line.  The others had only printed data.  However, these may be viewed at one of the many institutions scattered throughout the US and
other parts of the world.  A list of these institutions is included at this website.
 
Jean Rosenbaum


Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

Cynthia Singer
 

no Jeff..They were Walfish

 

On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:03 AM, "jeffckellner@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:

 

Were the Singers from Pidhaitsi? I met a man from San Francisco named Singer and he was my grandfather's exact double. Jeff

-----Original Message----- From: "Cynthia L Singer CLS316@... [podhajce]" Sent: 05/10/2014, 6:41 PM To: podhajce@... Subject: Re: [podhajce] Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes My great uncle, Shea Walfish , was Dr Milch's brother in law. He was murdered on Yom Kippur. Meylach Shekhet has been a tireless and most effective advocate for Jewish rights and Jewish life in the Western Ukraine. I treasure his friendship and hold him in the highest esteem. Best, Cynthia Singer >


Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

JK
 

Of course the article should have mentioned Jews but unfortunately there is no evidence that Karkoc is tied to the murder of Jews. But I agree with you that he was most likely guilty of this crime. He was not a Pidhaitser (once he enlisted, he was stationed there). 

Because this is a criminal investigation, its important to have evidence...so the journalist cannot accuse Karkoc of participating in the Shoah. But there is evidence he killed Christians and that is good enough for me. I hope his citizenship is revoked.

Its good to point out that we see a trickle of Ukrainian fascists being prosecuted because they are not covered by the amnesty laws that protect most medium/low level German war criminals. Low level German officers who participated in killing 1000s, even 10,000s of people got away with short prison sentences or even no punishment at all. But those who lied on their way to the West still can. 

Just a clarification. The Warsaw Uprising that Karkoc was involved in was the latter one, the (mostly Catholic) Polish rebellion that saw the destruction of the entire city, the victims were mostly Catholic Poles. The Jewish uprising took place earlier and concentrated around the Jewish neighborhood, which is why the author doesn't mention Jews. 

The current war in east Ukraine is clear evidence that the Ukrainians are still struggling with their fascist past. The Ukrainian Right is currently popular in west Ukraine, and they have played a troubling role in Maidan and now, in the new gov't...not sure Washington knows who there dealing with, the US is trying to soften their intentions.





On Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:50 PM, "Jerome Schatten romers@... [podhajce]" wrote:




Jeff...

I'm sorry, but I must still disagree with you about the 'significance' of this article. 

Just because the article starts recounting the events starting in 1943, that doesn't allow the author to escape prior history -- the history of the Jews in Podhajce who were all but eliminated prior to 1943. Indeed, you can bet that the same swine who were complicit in 1943 were complicit in 1941 and 1942 as well.  Without historical context, this published narrative is simply a story about the Nazi who lives next door.

It would not have take much for the author to have provided some additional context around these events. I find the lack thereof to be purposefully offensive.  To me the article is yet another example of the sanitizing of history; not for what it says, but for what it fails to say.  Specifically, substituting the word 'citizen' for the word 'Jew' regarding the Warsaw 'uprising', seems a throwback to Soviet times.

I am not unfamiliar with the large number of Ukrainians awarded the title of 'Righteous' by Yad Vashem; or by the expressions of sorrow proffered by locals to visitors; or those who had actively put their own lives at risk helping Jews during their darkest days. Indeed I am cautiously optimistic that things are improving, especially as regards the attitudes of the young.

It is not surprising to me that Nazis still live among us and that locals aided them; I would argue that this is not the 'significance' of the article. The significance is in the article's thinly veiled attempt to rewrite history.

With respect,
Jerome Schatten




Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

JK
 

Were the Singers from Pidhaitsi? I met a man from San Francisco named Singer and he was my grandfather's exact double. Jeff

-----Original Message----- From: "Cynthia L Singer CLS316@... [podhajce]" Sent: 05/10/2014, 6:41 PM To: podhajce@... Subject: Re: [podhajce] Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes My great uncle, Shea Walfish , was Dr Milch's brother in law. He was murdered on Yom Kippur. Meylach Shekhet has been a tireless and most effective advocate for Jewish rights and Jewish life in the Western Ukraine. I treasure his friendship and hold him in the highest esteem. Best, Cynthia Singer >


Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

jerome schatten
 

Jeff...

I'm sorry, but I must still disagree with you about the 'significance' of this article. 

Just because the article starts recounting the events starting in 1943, that doesn't allow the author to escape prior history -- the history of the Jews in Podhajce who were all but eliminated prior to 1943. Indeed, you can bet that the same swine who were complicit in 1943 were complicit in 1941 and 1942 as well.  Without historical context, this published narrative is simply a story about the Nazi who lives next door.

It would not have take much for the author to have provided some additional context around these events. I find the lack thereof to be purposefully offensive.  To me the article is yet another example of the sanitizing of history; not for what it says, but for what it fails to say.  Specifically, substituting the word 'citizen' for the word 'Jew' regarding the Warsaw 'uprising', seems a throwback to Soviet times.

I am not unfamiliar with the large number of Ukrainians awarded the title of 'Righteous' by Yad Vashem; or by the expressions of sorrow proffered by locals to visitors; or those who had actively put their own lives at risk helping Jews during their darkest days. Indeed I am cautiously optimistic that things are improving, especially as regards the attitudes of the young.

It is not surprising to me that Nazis still live among us and that locals aided them; I would argue that this is not the 'significance' of the article. The significance is in the article's thinly veiled attempt to rewrite history.

With respect,
Jerome Schatten


On 14-10-05 06:55 AM, JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce] wrote:
 
Hello,

Jews aren't mentioned because the Ukrainian auxiliaries clearly murdered Ukrainians (and presumably Poles) in the crime mentioned in the article.

By '43 the town's Jews were all dead, hiding, slave laborers* or had fled. 

The significance of this article is that the Ukrainians have to once again tend with the historical
fact that their right-wing supporters during the war played an important role in supporting the kind of
Nazi terror that resulted in the death of thousands of their own people.

When I visited Pidhaitsi in 2000 and 2001, I was received warmly by the locals. Many attested to the decent prewar relations experienced 
between the towns three minorities. My grandparents recall a similar attitude of acceptance.

A Ukrainian family in Pidhaitsi invited me to their house where they gave me a copy of the Righteous Gentile certificate they received
after appreciative Jewish Pidhaitsers petitioned Vad Yashem to award them the status. The family's elder lost her
mother (a Ms. Sikorski) after it was discovered that the woman had hid the Jewish Kessler boys (a Ukrainian neighbor informed on them).

There was sympathy and regret expressed to me.

It is also important to add that the Ukrainian fascists also murdered and expelled 100,000s of Poles and Czechs from the region, culminating in the crime known as Operation Vistula. That is why, apart from the synagog in Pidhaitsi, a Polish church remains in ruins, a testament to the large Polish community
that once lived in Galicia and Volhynia.

The synagogue of Pidhaitsi was recently cleaned and locked up, an improvement from when I last saw it (in 2000 it was left open, its floor covered in detritus). Someone replaced the roof sometime before 2000, which is promising (the Polish ruin, by comparison, has since lost what was left of its roof, this despite the fact that Poles w/Pidhaitsky roots visit the ruin every year).

I sent money to Meylakh Shekhet in Lviv and he managed to get most of the cemetery enclosed by a fence (to prevent animal grazing). I suspect he or some Chassidic organization re-sanctified the grave of that famous rabbi, figured here in a Ukrainian news piece:


Judging from the interview at the ned with a priest, it appears even the Ukrainian church is beginning to understand the significance of the town's Jewish culture...a promising step, if Ukraine is to join the EU they will have to resolve a couple of bad attitudes.

regards,
Jeff

*Local Pidhajcer, a Dr. Milch wrote about his slave labor experiences in a book.


On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:37 PM, "romers@... [podhajce]" wrote:




Jeff...

A very interesting post -- even more interesting is that the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' appeared nowhere in the article that I could find. Even when discussing the Warsaw uprising... only 'civilians' were involved. So... once again, history is sanitized and the Jews have been re-categorised as mmm... 'civilians'.  

Magnificent work by the Daily Mail -- Feh!

Jerome 






Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

FRPS
 

-------------------------------------------- On Sun, 10/5/14, JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce] <podhajce@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [podhajce] Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes To: podhajce@... Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014, 3:55 PM


Yes, those attitudes need a good look.
[Francine Shapiro]


Hello, Jews aren't mentioned because the Ukrainian auxiliaries clearly murdered Ukrainians (and presumably Poles) in the crime mentioned in the article. By '43 the town's Jews were all dead, hiding, slave laborers* or had fled. The significance of this article is that the Ukrainians have to once again tend with the historicalfact that their right-wing supporters during the war played an important role in supporting the kind ofNazi terror that resulted in the death of thousands of their own people. When I visited Pidhaitsi in 2000 and 2001, I was received warmly by the locals. Many attested to the decent prewar relations experienced between the towns three minorities. My grandparents recall a similar attitude of acceptance. A Ukrainian family in Pidhaitsi invited me to their house where they gave me a copy of the Righteous Gentile certificate they receivedafter appreciative Jewish Pidhaitsers petitioned Vad Yashem to award them the status. The family's elder lost hermother (a Ms. Sikorski) after it was discovered that the woman had hid the Jewish Kessler boys (a Ukrainian neighbor informed on them). There was sympathy and regret expressed to me. It is also important to add that the Ukrainian fascists also murdered and expelled 100,000s of Poles and Czechs from the region, culminating in the crime known as Operation Vistula. That is why, apart from the synagog in Pidhaitsi, a Polish church remains in ruins, a testament to the large Polish communitythat once lived in Galicia and Volhynia. The synagogue of Pidhaitsi was recently cleaned and locked up, an improvement from when I last saw it (in 2000 it was left open, its floor covered in detritus). Someone replaced the roof sometime before 2000, which is promising (the Polish ruin, by comparison, has since lost what was left of its roof, this despite the fact that Poles w/Pidhaitsky roots visit the ruin every year). I sent money to Meylakh Shekhet in Lviv and he managed to get most of the cemetery enclosed by a fence (to prevent animal grazing). I suspect he or some Chassidic organization re-sanctified the grave of that famous rabbi, figured here in a Ukrainian news piece: Найбільший єврейський цвинтар України знаходиться у Підгайцях на Тернопільщині Найбільший єврейський цвинтар України знаходиться...View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo Judging from the interview at the ned with a priest, it appears even the Ukrainian church is beginning to understand the significance of the town's Jewish culture...a promising step, if Ukraine is to join the EU they will have to resolve a couple of bad attitudes. regards,Jeff *Local Pidhajcer, a Dr. Milch wrote about his slave labor experiences in a book.


On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:37 PM, "romers@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote: Jeff... A very interesting post -- even more interesting is that the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' appeared nowhere in the article that I could find. Even when discussing the Warsaw uprising... only 'civilians' were involved. So... once again, history is sanitized and the Jews have been re-categorised as mmm... 'civilians'. Magnificent work by the Daily Mail -- Feh! Jerome


Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

Cynthia Singer
 

My great uncle, Shea Walfish , was Dr Milch's brother in law. He was murdered on Yom Kippur.

Meylach Shekhet has been a tireless and most effective advocate for Jewish rights and Jewish life in the Western Ukraine. I treasure his friendship and hold him in the highest esteem.

Best,
Cynthia Singer

 

On Oct 5, 2014, at 9:55 AM, "JK jeffckellner@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

Jews aren't mentioned because the Ukrainian auxiliaries clearly murdered Ukrainians (and presumably Poles) in the crime mentioned in the article.

By '43 the town's Jews were all dead, hiding, slave laborers* or had fled. 

The significance of this article is that the Ukrainians have to once again tend with the historical
fact that their right-wing supporters during the war played an important role in supporting the kind of
Nazi terror that resulted in the death of thousands of their own people.

When I visited Pidhaitsi in 2000 and 2001, I was received warmly by the locals. Many attested to the decent prewar relations experienced 
between the towns three minorities. My grandparents recall a similar attitude of acceptance.

A Ukrainian family in Pidhaitsi invited me to their house where they gave me a copy of the Righteous Gentile certificate they received
after appreciative Jewish Pidhaitsers petitioned Vad Yashem to award them the status. The family's elder lost her
mother (a Ms. Sikorski) after it was discovered that the woman had hid the Jewish Kessler boys (a Ukrainian neighbor informed on them).

There was sympathy and regret expressed to me.

It is also important to add that the Ukrainian fascists also murdered and expelled 100,000s of Poles and Czechs from the region, culminating in the crime known as Operation Vistula. That is why, apart from the synagog in Pidhaitsi, a Polish church remains in ruins, a testament to the large Polish community
that once lived in Galicia and Volhynia.

The synagogue of Pidhaitsi was recently cleaned and locked up, an improvement from when I last saw it (in 2000 it was left open, its floor covered in detritus). Someone replaced the roof sometime before 2000, which is promising (the Polish ruin, by comparison, has since lost what was left of its roof, this despite the fact that Poles w/Pidhaitsky roots visit the ruin every year).

I sent money to Meylakh Shekhet in Lviv and he managed to get most of the cemetery enclosed by a fence (to prevent animal grazing). I suspect he or some Chassidic organization re-sanctified the grave of that famous rabbi, figured here in a Ukrainian news piece:


Judging from the interview at the ned with a priest, it appears even the Ukrainian church is beginning to understand the significance of the town's Jewish culture...a promising step, if Ukraine is to join the EU they will have to resolve a couple of bad attitudes.

regards,
Jeff

*Local Pidhajcer, a Dr. Milch wrote about his slave labor experiences in a book.


On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:37 PM, "romers@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:




Jeff...

A very interesting post -- even more interesting is that the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' appeared nowhere in the article that I could find. Even when discussing the Warsaw uprising... only 'civilians' were involved. So... once again, history is sanitized and the Jews have been re-categorised as mmm... 'civilians'.  

Magnificent work by the Daily Mail -- Feh!

Jerome 





Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

JK
 

Hello,

Jews aren't mentioned because the Ukrainian auxiliaries clearly murdered Ukrainians (and presumably Poles) in the crime mentioned in the article.

By '43 the town's Jews were all dead, hiding, slave laborers* or had fled. 

The significance of this article is that the Ukrainians have to once again tend with the historical
fact that their right-wing supporters during the war played an important role in supporting the kind of
Nazi terror that resulted in the death of thousands of their own people.

When I visited Pidhaitsi in 2000 and 2001, I was received warmly by the locals. Many attested to the decent prewar relations experienced 
between the towns three minorities. My grandparents recall a similar attitude of acceptance.

A Ukrainian family in Pidhaitsi invited me to their house where they gave me a copy of the Righteous Gentile certificate they received
after appreciative Jewish Pidhaitsers petitioned Vad Yashem to award them the status. The family's elder lost her
mother (a Ms. Sikorski) after it was discovered that the woman had hid the Jewish Kessler boys (a Ukrainian neighbor informed on them).

There was sympathy and regret expressed to me.

It is also important to add that the Ukrainian fascists also murdered and expelled 100,000s of Poles and Czechs from the region, culminating in the crime known as Operation Vistula. That is why, apart from the synagog in Pidhaitsi, a Polish church remains in ruins, a testament to the large Polish community
that once lived in Galicia and Volhynia.

The synagogue of Pidhaitsi was recently cleaned and locked up, an improvement from when I last saw it (in 2000 it was left open, its floor covered in detritus). Someone replaced the roof sometime before 2000, which is promising (the Polish ruin, by comparison, has since lost what was left of its roof, this despite the fact that Poles w/Pidhaitsky roots visit the ruin every year).

I sent money to Meylakh Shekhet in Lviv and he managed to get most of the cemetery enclosed by a fence (to prevent animal grazing). I suspect he or some Chassidic organization re-sanctified the grave of that famous rabbi, figured here in a Ukrainian news piece:


Judging from the interview at the ned with a priest, it appears even the Ukrainian church is beginning to understand the significance of the town's Jewish culture...a promising step, if Ukraine is to join the EU they will have to resolve a couple of bad attitudes.

regards,
Jeff

*Local Pidhajcer, a Dr. Milch wrote about his slave labor experiences in a book.


On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:37 PM, "romers@... [podhajce]" wrote:




Jeff...

A very interesting post -- even more interesting is that the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' appeared nowhere in the article that I could find. Even when discussing the Warsaw uprising... only 'civilians' were involved. So... once again, history is sanitized and the Jews have been re-categorised as mmm... 'civilians'.  

Magnificent work by the Daily Mail -- Feh!

Jerome 





Re: Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

jerome schatten
 

Jeff...

A very interesting post -- even more interesting is that the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' appeared nowhere in the article that I could find. Even when discussing the Warsaw uprising... only 'civilians' were involved. So... once again, history is sanitized and the Jews have been re-categorised as mmm... 'civilians'.  

Magnificent work by the Daily Mail -- Feh!

Jerome 


Ukrainian American accused of Pidhaitsi war crimes

JK
 

This story reveals the fact that wartime Ukrainian auxiliaries participated in anti-Ukrainian terror as well:


 
 


Looking for Margulies/Margolis/Margolies - Great Grand Parents

Ari Margulies
 

 
Today at 6:25 PM
Hello,

I'm working on my family tree and my great grandparents are from Podhajce. Much of my family perished in the Holocaust.
Hirsch (Tzvi) and Ita Margulies where my great grandparents. I've seen the spelling either Margolies, Margulies or Margolis. Their Son Simcha was my grandfathers (Abraham) brother. Along with Iro, Irene and Yosuf.
Simcha survived and moved to Israel in the 50's, my grandfather Abraham also survived as he left Podhajce early with his wife Ita. Iro, Irene, Yosuf  (his two other brothers and one sister) and their entire families where murdered in the holocaust.
I'm looking for the following:
  1. Dates of birth/Death
  2. Birth Certificates
  3. Graves
  4. Marriage certificates
And anything else which could help me get past this brick wall that I've hit.
Thanks for any support or suggestions possible.

Ari




--
-Ari


One of my grandfathers...

Johnny Dangerously
 

I'm told one of my great-great-grandfathers or ancestor of some strain was mayor of Podhajce at some point in the 19th Century. His name was Samko or Simko Cieglinicki. How can I find more information about him? My dad tells me Simko  negotiated the release of 38 Jews who were held by the Nazis. I'd like to know more about that episode. Thanks.

Chris Soboleski
50% Polish; son of 100% Polish father


Re: In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach

Cynthia Singer
 

Hi Ohad,
This birth record index is for Nathan Marbach born in1905 from Podhajce

Podhajce PSA AGAD Births 1866/1894,1900,01,04,05
NOTE! no records survive - only INDEXES - Click here for more info
Tarnopol Wojewodztwo / Ukraine
(records in Fond 300 in AGAD Archive)
Located at 49°16’ 25°08’
Last updated May 2007

Please note that some of the links to the AGAD images are only APPROXIMATE and should be within a few pages of the correct image.
Use the scrolling arrow buttons at the bottom of each page to move forwards and backwards based on the year and akt number you want to view.

Click
to viewSurnameGiven NameYearTypeAktaPageIndex PageSygnaturaView Nearby ImageMARBACHChaim Juda1877B341312984View Nearby ImageMARBACHLea1886B10613986View Nearby ImageMARBACHMaryim1900B4122, 23132165View Nearby ImageMARBACHNathan1905B9348-49132457View Nearby ImageMARBACHRebeka Rachela1905B9448-49132457

Perhaps this will help.
Best,
Cynthia

On May 26, 2014, at 4:35 PM, "Ohad Marbach trikolad@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jeff,
Nice to meet you.

He lived in Podhajce since birth 1905 and until 1926 when he moved to Israel.
I need his birth certificate because I want to claim a Polish citizenship for him and then for me.
The siblings of his brother Yehoshua already did it, and have now a polish passport. but they had much more data than I do because he lived longer in Poland.

Thank you for helping,

Ohad Marbach




On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:58 AM, "jeffckellner@... [podhajce]" <podhajce@...> wrote:


 
Hi Ohad,
the Polish archive in warsaw or the Ukrainian archive in Lviv...if you tell me the purpose of proving his polish heritage, and where/when he lived, i can better assist you.
Jeff Kellner
Vienna Austria

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ohad Marbach trikolad@... [podhajce]"
Sent: 26/05/2014, 02:14
To: podhajce@...
Subject: [podhajce] In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach

Dear Podhajce group,

I am trying to find a birth certificate or any other document that would prove my Grandfather, Meir Marbach, God rest his soul, was a polish
citizen, or deserves a polish citizenship.
could you help me in my search?

I already found his picture in the Podhajce book (second picture):
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/podhajce/pod097.html
I also sent emails to various libraries, with no result yet.

Sincerely,

--

Ohad Marbach

trikolad@...

www.ohadmarbach.com
Music For Film, TV And Commercials
+972 - 507-7999684 (0507-999684)
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Re: In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach

Ohad Marbach
 

Hi Jeff,
Nice to meet you.

He lived in Podhajce since birth 1905 and until 1926 when he moved to Israel.
I need his birth certificate because I want to claim a Polish citizenship for him and then for me.
The siblings of his brother Yehoshua already did it, and have now a polish passport. but they had much more data than I do because he lived longer in Poland.

Thank you for helping,

Ohad Marbach




On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:58 AM, "jeffckellner@... [podhajce]" wrote:


 
Hi Ohad,
the Polish archive in warsaw or the Ukrainian archive in Lviv...if you tell me the purpose of proving his polish heritage, and where/when he lived, i can better assist you.
Jeff Kellner
Vienna Austria

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ohad Marbach trikolad@... [podhajce]"
Sent: 26/05/2014, 02:14
To: podhajce@...
Subject: [podhajce] In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach

Dear Podhajce group,

I am trying to find a birth certificate or any other document that would prove my Grandfather, Meir Marbach, God rest his soul, was a polish
citizen, or deserves a polish citizenship.
could you help me in my search?

I already found his picture in the Podhajce book (second picture):
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/podhajce/pod097.html
I also sent emails to various libraries, with no result yet.

Sincerely,

--

Ohad Marbach

trikolad@...

www.ohadmarbach.com
Music For Film, TV And Commercials
+972 - 507-7999684 (0507-999684)
+972 - 3-6297323 (03-6297323)




Re: In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach

JK
 

Hi Ohad,
the Polish archive in warsaw or the Ukrainian archive in Lviv...if you tell me the purpose of proving his polish heritage, and where/when he lived, i can better assist you.
Jeff Kellner
Vienna Austria

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ohad Marbach trikolad@... [podhajce]"
Sent: 26/05/2014, 02:14
To: podhajce@...
Subject: [podhajce] In search of birth certificate for Meir Marbach




Dear Podhajce group,




I am trying to find a birth certificate or any other document that would prove my Grandfather, Meir Marbach, God rest his soul, was a polish
citizen, or deserves a polish citizenship.
could you help me in my search?




I already found his picture in the Podhajce book (second picture):
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/podhajce/pod097.html
I also sent emails to various libraries, with no result yet.








Sincerely,




--




Ohad Marbach




trikolad@...




www.ohadmarbach.com
Music For Film, TV And Commercials
+972 - 507-7999684 (0507-999684)
+972 - 3-6297323 (03-6297323)