PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm


Tim McCormick
 

To: Alternative Shelter Network, PDX Shelter Forum

see info below for joining meeting today: 

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CC: Jordanna MacIntyre <jordanna.macintyre@...>

Hi Tim,

Here is the information for today at 4:30pm:

You are invited to a Zoom webinar.

When: Nov 16, 2022 04:30 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

Topic: Discuss Designated Camping Sites

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Kindly,

 

 

  

  Taylor Morrison (she/her)

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  1221 SW Fourth Avenue, Suite 340

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Tim McCormick
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+1 503.334.1894. 


Zack Patterson
 

I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?


Mimi German
 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions. Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one. And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps. It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:

I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?


Peter Finley Fry
 

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>




 


Aisha Musa
 

Peter,
According to the ECONorthwest report on homelessness in Oregon, it is a housing issue.
https://oregoncf.org/assets/PDFs-and-Docs/PDFs/OregonHomelessness.pdf

Dr. Aisha Y. Musa
AYM Education and Consulting



On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:27 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>




 


Peter Finley Fry
 

Thank you.  I strongly disagree with the way the ECO Northwest report has been misunderstood and used to divert public funds to for and not for profit developers.  I would be happy to go over the ECO Northwest report in detail and explain what I mean.  The ECO Northwest report does not properly portray what is actually happening.  Housing is not build to meet demand.  Housing is a built to accommodate financial return. 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Aisha Musa via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 5:36 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

Peter,
According to the ECONorthwest report on homelessness in Oregon, it is a housing issue.
https://oregoncf.org/assets/PDFs-and-Docs/PDFs/OregonHomelessness.pdf

 

Dr. Aisha Y. Musa

AYM Education and Consulting

 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:27 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>



 

 


Zack Patterson
 

Plus one to every single thing here. Thank you, Peter. It is an undeniable fact that there is more than enough housing to let every when tile person sleep under a roof every night in Portland. This city is run by developers. The city has refused to hold the developer of the Ritz Carlton building downtown accountable for their legally-required share of affordable units in that space, or the requisite fines in lieu of offering affordable units. This developer (Walter Bowen) arranged a deal to build a separate complex containing affordable units. It turns out that this developer had made this exact promise using the exact same proposed affordable unit structure before for a previous project. They never built it. They were never held accountable. The Ritz Carlton will be constructed to completion, and I would bet everything I own that there will be 0 affordable units offered when it is done.


On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:27 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>




 


Peter Finley Fry
 

I appreciate the comments made.  Housing is important and we need to explore all the ways that housing can be provided neighborhoods, villages, and safe places.  A frustration that I have is that there is very little real discussion in Portland by architects or developers about the housing types that are becoming common outside of Portland while we seem to be building the same wood over concrete five story boxes all over.

 

I asked the City if they knew how many and what type of housing units have been built in Portland and know one seems to have a clear answer.  I know that in the Central Eastside which is predominantly an employment area; we achieved our 2035 goals of 3,000 units already now (2022).  There are specific reason that happened and it was not due to support by Portland, planners, or architects.

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Zack Patterson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:01 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

Plus one to every single thing here. Thank you, Peter. It is an undeniable fact that there is more than enough housing to let every when tile person sleep under a roof every night in Portland. This city is run by developers. The city has refused to hold the developer of the Ritz Carlton building downtown accountable for their legally-required share of affordable units in that space, or the requisite fines in lieu of offering affordable units. This developer (Walter Bowen) arranged a deal to build a separate complex containing affordable units. It turns out that this developer had made this exact promise using the exact same proposed affordable unit structure before for a previous project. They never built it. They were never held accountable. The Ritz Carlton will be constructed to completion, and I would bet everything I own that there will be 0 affordable units offered when it is done.

 

 

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:27 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

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From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>



 

 


Aisha Musa
 

The other issue that is absent from the housing discussion is accessibility. Even something as basic as zero step entrances.

Dr. Aisha Y. Musa

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 4:31 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

I appreciate the comments made.  Housing is important and we need to explore all the ways that housing can be provided neighborhoods, villages, and safe places.  A frustration that I have is that there is very little real discussion in Portland by architects or developers about the housing types that are becoming common outside of Portland while we seem to be building the same wood over concrete five story boxes all over.

 

I asked the City if they knew how many and what type of housing units have been built in Portland and know one seems to have a clear answer.  I know that in the Central Eastside which is predominantly an employment area; we achieved our 2035 goals of 3,000 units already now (2022).  There are specific reason that happened and it was not due to support by Portland, planners, or architects.

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

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From: Zack Patterson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:01 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

Plus one to every single thing here. Thank you, Peter. It is an undeniable fact that there is more than enough housing to let every when tile person sleep under a roof every night in Portland. This city is run by developers. The city has refused to hold the developer of the Ritz Carlton building downtown accountable for their legally-required share of affordable units in that space, or the requisite fines in lieu of offering affordable units. This developer (Walter Bowen) arranged a deal to build a separate complex containing affordable units. It turns out that this developer had made this exact promise using the exact same proposed affordable unit structure before for a previous project. They never built it. They were never held accountable. The Ritz Carlton will be constructed to completion, and I would bet everything I own that there will be 0 affordable units offered when it is done.

 

 

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:27 PM Peter Finley Fry <peter@...> wrote:

Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.

 

I strongly reject the opinion (theory) that houseless ness is a housing issue.  There are many “rooms” available.  Clearly, the real estate industry both profit and non profit benefit from the political push to build housing at any costs.  The developer fees both for and not-for profit are horrific.   Housing now is a real estate scam.

 

The issue is that people do not get along with each other and do not live together easily.  I wish there were more focus on the people and our needs and not just as a cheer leader to raise funds for developers.

 

 

 

Peter Finley Fry    AICP PhD MUP BS

Strategic Land Use Planning

Cultural Anthropologist

303 NW Uptown Terrace; Unit 1B

Portland, Oregon 97210

503 703-8033

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mimi German via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:03 AM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Designated Camping Sites - City webinar TODAY Weds 4:30-6pm

 

It seems like only the people who are either unhoused or who do direct
action and support with unhoused communities, notice these things and
are outraged by them. I am grateful to see Zack's email questioning
the ongoing malfeasance by our city government who claims to have
"solutions" when absolutely no one in the unhoused community and their
support teams agree with those solutions.  Housing First is not a
catch phrase. It's a reality that would save lives. Now. Immediately.
And 27 million dollars could and should house as many people from the
street as possible and as soon as possible. These PR stunts from the
city and from nonprofit orgs who kiss ass to the city and PBA in order
to collect their cash off of the lives of the unhoused must continue
to get called out. If I, and many of my friends, could shut down every
NP that pays its admin while doing nothing for the unhoused, maybe
we'd get somewhere. We could channel the money that these NPs take for
themselves--and companies like People's Housing Project, which is a
corporation, not an NP, using the trauma of unhoused people to get
donations so that the staff of PHP can pay their own rent--well,
imagine how much money we'd have then to further house folks on the
street. Instead, NPs boast how great they're doing, when 'great'
equals how much they pay themselves while housing no one.  And on top
of that, NPs are so quick, like Jan of the Alternative Shelter
Network, to praise NPs who are knowingly causing harm to their
residents, as is the case at the MSRV with Andy Goebel's team. By the
way, they're trying to evict the victim of a stalker at the MSRV while
keeping the stalker, who is also a resident, in place. Way to go with
your praises for Andy, Jan or is it, Karen?

PR is not new. When we don't call it out and change it, PR wins. And
unhoused people lose. Losing for unhoused people means more suffering,
trauma and the likely potential of early death on the streets. Are you
for PR or are you for housing? I'd like to see every single NP stand
up to the PBA and Wheeler and the city council cronies and attack this
PR for what it is. The money needs to go to housing. All of it.
Including the money that JOHS still has from a few years ago that we
all voted for to be used for HOUSING! There are hundreds of millions
of dollars in the city allocated for housing the unhoused, not for
internment camps.  It's time the NPs stop being selfish and
narcissistic and do something good and something real and something
worthy and responsible for people living on the streets. But I won't
hold my breath. I've been around longer than most of you fighting this
and the city. I've seen this game for years. NPs will protect
themselves over the unhoused. Just like Andy Goebels did in his
response to my email a few days ago calling out the situation going on
at his MSRV regarding stalking. And Jan, too, from ASN who apologized
and protected Andy Goebel whose SRV is allowing harm, not safety, to
an unhoused BIPOC woman. Are NPs just another way for "Karens" to make
a living? Yeah. Most of them. Accountability matters here. And there
is none. Most NPs won't stand up to Wheeler and the PBA. Gotta tow the
line to make a dime, right?

What are all of these NPs doing to house the houseless? Or are
shelters your game and not housing. Shelter, not housing, is not the
way to respond to the housing crisis. We see you. Every one of you.

Mimi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:31 AM <zackluispatterson@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to this forum, but not to serving the unhoused in Portland and after today’s meeting I am left wondering: why are unelected officials fielding and wholly moderating a government-hosted public discussion around the biggest hot-button issue in local politics? Why was Dan Ryan not in attendance? Why was there 0 representation from people living in SRVs?
>