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PDX Shelter Forum June 25 forum - full event materials, and next steps

Tim McCormick
 

Dear PDXshelterforum list members,
thank you for joining, and welcome. I'm writing to start up the discussion here, share materials and followup from the June 25 online event, and say hello, as group moderator and part of the planning team for Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter and Villages (PDX Shelter Forum for short, for now).

We have almost 200 people on this list so far -- most but not all via registering for the June 25 event -- and what appears to be in many ways a very diverse group. Based on self-descriptions, we have a number of people identifying as currently or formerly unhoused; residents of tiny houses, shelters, villages, or none, builders, business leaders, elected officials, candidates, agency / non-profit leaders, neighborhood association leaders, architects, planners, and service provider employees, and people from various local faith communities. Welcome! Glad you and we are here.

My goal as moderator is just to help us grow useful, interesting, diversely-perspectived yet generally civil, discussion and sharing of knowledge, about how all Portlanders can have a safe and decent place to sleep, as soon as possible. It's a village effort, in itself -- let's be the group we want to see in the world!

June 25 event materials

Next-step initiatives or focus areas:
  1. Create a standard documents library to describe diverse types of housing, their effectiveness for different purposes, and how various approaches can plays a key role as part of transitioning people to permanent, long-term housing. Materials to effectively communicate this to elective officials, planners, community members would go a long way towards supporting and advancing the political will.

  2. Build partnerships / coalition with other organizations, including possibly working together on events and community fora, and building resources library to help all of our efforts in this area.

  3. There's strong interest in creating better hygiene facilities, particularly in Old Town, and immediately visiting/engaging various villages, and the people involved in them, to explore what they need and how we might help.

  4. Shelter to Housing Continuum (S2HC) project, from Portland Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.  We had many participants at the event from BPS, and this program emerged as a key area where our efforts can shape City policy. BPS plans to release a draft code in late summer, invite input up to and including its presentation to the Planning and Sustainability Commission in October, and present it to City Council in December. The project lead, at our Forum, suggested that he could present to our group for feedback.

    S2HC currently includes sections for allowing group living / home share across residential zones, and creating easily approvable "Outdoor Shelters" for up to six months, extensible by Conditional Use permit or City Council resolution. The PSC chair Eli Spevak, also at our Forum, suggested several ways he thought S2HC might be expanded and given more staff resources, such as: legalizing use of mobile dwellings on private property, which is currently decriminalized but not technically legal.

  5. Engaging with A Home For All (regional homelessness policy coordination body, and Federal Funding CoC) and the Joint Office of Homelessness Services, to advocate our policy interests there.  We attended the July 1 AHFE Coordinating Board meeting.

  6. Explore possibilities in working with Oregon Metro, for example in mapping possible sites for shelters/villages, and helping to build region-wide informational portal to assist homelessness response.

  7. What might be possible using vehicle or mobile structures, such as tiny houses on wheels? What might be done under Oregon state campground permitting, vs Portland land-use process?

  8. Exploring alternative shelter possibilities under 2020 Oregon HB4212 - Sections 9-16 (Emergency Shelter). Allows by-right approval of emergency shelters and vehicle dwelling sites.

  9. Engaging with City of Portland around campsite reporting and response program (HUCIRP - Homelessness/Urban Camping Impact Reduction Program), and also community groups engaged in this issue such as Stop the Sweeps PDX coalition. See HUCIRP's  just-released update: Protecting Health and Safety: Campsite Cleanup Changes - June 2020

  10. Exploring funding/revenue opportunities to support this initiative. 

Finally, we welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io.
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

Sean Green - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Chair - green@...
Adam Lyons - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Executive Director - adam@...
Tim McCormick - organizer at Village Collaborative - tmccormick@..., @tmccormick
Carol Turner - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Co-Chair - carol@...
Les Wardenaar - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Incoming Chair - wardenaar@...


--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Re: PDX Shelter Forum June 25 forum - full event materials, and next steps

Trena Sutton
 

Good afternoon Tim and other members,

 About a week ago I was contacted about a 1986 RV that belong to a couple in Lake Oswego. The couple did some traveling in it but her husband became ill and they parked it at their home . 

 This was a fully functional RV, low mileage with lots of living space. Air conditioning and heating and all appliances worked well and had very low mileage.  Her husband did pass and she did not want to drive the RV but want to get to go to a person that really needed it. Since it was a 1986 RV parks would not consider taking it despite  since it was a 1986 RV parks would not consider taking it despite its  Great shape. I was contacted about a woman and her mother escaping a domestic violence situation but everyone was advised that RV parks will not take it.  A place for these functional RVs is needed. 

 Does anyone have any ideas for this sort of situation? I Admit some of what II call “Zombie RVs”  are so dilapidated and dangerous they are not fit for human habitation there are many that are  but others like the aforementioned RV can be placed in an older RV park that could hook up to the mains  for electricity, plumbing, and water. 

Thanks




On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:01 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Dear PDXshelterforum list members,
thank you for joining, and welcome. I'm writing to start up the discussion here, share materials and followup from the June 25 online event, and say hello, as group moderator and part of the planning team for Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter and Villages (PDX Shelter Forum for short, for now).

We have almost 200 people on this list so far -- most but not all via registering for the June 25 event -- and what appears to be in many ways a very diverse group. Based on self-descriptions, we have a number of people identifying as currently or formerly unhoused; residents of tiny houses, shelters, villages, or none, builders, business leaders, elected officials, candidates, agency / non-profit leaders, neighborhood association leaders, architects, planners, and service provider employees, and people from various local faith communities. Welcome! Glad you and we are here.

My goal as moderator is just to help us grow useful, interesting, diversely-perspectived yet generally civil, discussion and sharing of knowledge, about how all Portlanders can have a safe and decent place to sleep, as soon as possible. It's a village effort, in itself -- let's be the group we want to see in the world!

June 25 event materials

Next-step initiatives or focus areas:
  1. Create a standard documents library to describe diverse types of housing, their effectiveness for different purposes, and how various approaches can plays a key role as part of transitioning people to permanent, long-term housing. Materials to effectively communicate this to elective officials, planners, community members would go a long way towards supporting and advancing the political will.

  2. Build partnerships / coalition with other organizations, including possibly working together on events and community fora, and building resources library to help all of our efforts in this area.

  3. There's strong interest in creating better hygiene facilities, particularly in Old Town, and immediately visiting/engaging various villages, and the people involved in them, to explore what they need and how we might help.

  4. Shelter to Housing Continuum (S2HC) project, from Portland Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.  We had many participants at the event from BPS, and this program emerged as a key area where our efforts can shape City policy. BPS plans to release a draft code in late summer, invite input up to and including its presentation to the Planning and Sustainability Commission in October, and present it to City Council in December. The project lead, at our Forum, suggested that he could present to our group for feedback.

    S2HC currently includes sections for allowing group living / home share across residential zones, and creating easily approvable "Outdoor Shelters" for up to six months, extensible by Conditional Use permit or City Council resolution. The PSC chair Eli Spevak, also at our Forum, suggested several ways he thought S2HC might be expanded and given more staff resources, such as: legalizing use of mobile dwellings on private property, which is currently decriminalized but not technically legal.

  5. Engaging with A Home For All (regional homelessness policy coordination body, and Federal Funding CoC) and the Joint Office of Homelessness Services, to advocate our policy interests there.  We attended the July 1 AHFE Coordinating Board meeting.

  6. Explore possibilities in working with Oregon Metro, for example in mapping possible sites for shelters/villages, and helping to build region-wide informational portal to assist homelessness response.

  7. What might be possible using vehicle or mobile structures, such as tiny houses on wheels? What might be done under Oregon state campground permitting, vs Portland land-use process?

  8. Exploring alternative shelter possibilities under 2020 Oregon HB4212 - Sections 9-16 (Emergency Shelter). Allows by-right approval of emergency shelters and vehicle dwelling sites.

  9. Engaging with City of Portland around campsite reporting and response program (HUCIRP - Homelessness/Urban Camping Impact Reduction Program), and also community groups engaged in this issue such as Stop the Sweeps PDX coalition. See HUCIRP's  just-released update: Protecting Health and Safety: Campsite Cleanup Changes - June 2020

  10. Exploring funding/revenue opportunities to support this initiative. 

Finally, we welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io.
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

Sean Green - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Chair - green@...
Adam Lyons - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Executive Director - adam@...
Tim McCormick - organizer at Village Collaborative - tmccormick@..., @tmccormick
Carol Turner - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Co-Chair - carol@...
Les Wardenaar - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Incoming Chair - wardenaar@...


--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Re: PDX Shelter Forum June 25 forum - full event materials, and next steps

Jim Krauel
 

Thanks Tim, appreciate your help.  I’m new to the group and a board member for Operation Nightwatch.  As we work on a plan for a larger group I’ve been using private funds to supply and deliver Individual tents to various folks on or near 13th and Main.   
Each time I go deliver one I wind up getting a request for more..   
love doing the one on one stuff and have made some new friends ..  and , am on the hunt for new and used tents if you know of any.
Blessings,
Jim Krauel 

On Jul 2, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:


Good afternoon Tim and other members,

 About a week ago I was contacted about a 1986 RV that belong to a couple in Lake Oswego. The couple did some traveling in it but her husband became ill and they parked it at their home . 

 This was a fully functional RV, low mileage with lots of living space. Air conditioning and heating and all appliances worked well and had very low mileage.  Her husband did pass and she did not want to drive the RV but want to get to go to a person that really needed it. Since it was a 1986 RV parks would not consider taking it despite  since it was a 1986 RV parks would not consider taking it despite its  Great shape. I was contacted about a woman and her mother escaping a domestic violence situation but everyone was advised that RV parks will not take it.  A place for these functional RVs is needed. 

 Does anyone have any ideas for this sort of situation? I Admit some of what II call “Zombie RVs”  are so dilapidated and dangerous they are not fit for human habitation there are many that are  but others like the aforementioned RV can be placed in an older RV park that could hook up to the mains  for electricity, plumbing, and water. 

Thanks




On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:01 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Dear PDXshelterforum list members,
thank you for joining, and welcome. I'm writing to start up the discussion here, share materials and followup from the June 25 online event, and say hello, as group moderator and part of the planning team for Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter and Villages (PDX Shelter Forum for short, for now).

We have almost 200 people on this list so far -- most but not all via registering for the June 25 event -- and what appears to be in many ways a very diverse group. Based on self-descriptions, we have a number of people identifying as currently or formerly unhoused; residents of tiny houses, shelters, villages, or none, builders, business leaders, elected officials, candidates, agency / non-profit leaders, neighborhood association leaders, architects, planners, and service provider employees, and people from various local faith communities. Welcome! Glad you and we are here.

My goal as moderator is just to help us grow useful, interesting, diversely-perspectived yet generally civil, discussion and sharing of knowledge, about how all Portlanders can have a safe and decent place to sleep, as soon as possible. It's a village effort, in itself -- let's be the group we want to see in the world!

June 25 event materials

Next-step initiatives or focus areas:
  1. Create a standard documents library to describe diverse types of housing, their effectiveness for different purposes, and how various approaches can plays a key role as part of transitioning people to permanent, long-term housing. Materials to effectively communicate this to elective officials, planners, community members would go a long way towards supporting and advancing the political will.

  2. Build partnerships / coalition with other organizations, including possibly working together on events and community fora, and building resources library to help all of our efforts in this area.

  3. There's strong interest in creating better hygiene facilities, particularly in Old Town, and immediately visiting/engaging various villages, and the people involved in them, to explore what they need and how we might help.

  4. Shelter to Housing Continuum (S2HC) project, from Portland Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.  We had many participants at the event from BPS, and this program emerged as a key area where our efforts can shape City policy. BPS plans to release a draft code in late summer, invite input up to and including its presentation to the Planning and Sustainability Commission in October, and present it to City Council in December. The project lead, at our Forum, suggested that he could present to our group for feedback.

    S2HC currently includes sections for allowing group living / home share across residential zones, and creating easily approvable "Outdoor Shelters" for up to six months, extensible by Conditional Use permit or City Council resolution. The PSC chair Eli Spevak, also at our Forum, suggested several ways he thought S2HC might be expanded and given more staff resources, such as: legalizing use of mobile dwellings on private property, which is currently decriminalized but not technically legal.

  5. Engaging with A Home For All (regional homelessness policy coordination body, and Federal Funding CoC) and the Joint Office of Homelessness Services, to advocate our policy interests there.  We attended the July 1 AHFE Coordinating Board meeting.

  6. Explore possibilities in working with Oregon Metro, for example in mapping possible sites for shelters/villages, and helping to build region-wide informational portal to assist homelessness response.

  7. What might be possible using vehicle or mobile structures, such as tiny houses on wheels? What might be done under Oregon state campground permitting, vs Portland land-use process?

  8. Exploring alternative shelter possibilities under 2020 Oregon HB4212 - Sections 9-16 (Emergency Shelter). Allows by-right approval of emergency shelters and vehicle dwelling sites.

  9. Engaging with City of Portland around campsite reporting and response program (HUCIRP - Homelessness/Urban Camping Impact Reduction Program), and also community groups engaged in this issue such as Stop the Sweeps PDX coalition. See HUCIRP's  just-released update: Protecting Health and Safety: Campsite Cleanup Changes - June 2020

  10. Exploring funding/revenue opportunities to support this initiative. 

Finally, we welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io.
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

Sean Green - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Chair - green@...
Adam Lyons - NE Coalition of Neighborhoods Executive Director - adam@...
Tim McCormick - organizer at Village Collaborative - tmccormick@..., @tmccormick
Carol Turner - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Co-Chair - carol@...
Les Wardenaar - Interfaith Alliance on Poverty Incoming Chair - wardenaar@...


--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Houseless First
 

"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"
Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg Here-Together-banner.jpg

A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]


Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Trena Sutton
 

 Good Afternoon,

 I’ve been doing this for well over a decade now and I can tell you that drug and alcohol addiction amongst the homeless is about 95% of the homeless  populace. I’m not an expert but I know the people. The former president of the Clackamas County  lawyers Association asked me what I thought the chief causes of homelessness where.  That’s a no brainer as the people have 1° or another of mental illness exacerbated by drug amd/or  alcohol addiction. The life itself is so oppressive you will do anything to escape that pain. The expert should have a seat at the table. 

 That’s just my two cents worth. 

Trena

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"
Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg Here-Together-banner.jpg

A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]


Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Rachel Day
 

Thank you for your honesty Trena.  PPOP is a disgrace to the communities they inundate with needles and other drug paraphernalia.  I have had users tell me they increased their use once PPOP came into their lives.  Portland just enables, enables and enables. 




On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:42 PM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:
 Good Afternoon,

 I’ve been doing this for well over a decade now and I can tell you that drug and alcohol addiction amongst the homeless is about 95% of the homeless  populace. I’m not an expert but I know the people. The former president of the Clackamas County  lawyers Association asked me what I thought the chief causes of homelessness where.  That’s a no brainer as the people have 1° or another of mental illness exacerbated by drug amd/or  alcohol addiction. The life itself is so oppressive you will do anything to escape that pain. The expert should have a seat at the table. 

 That’s just my two cents worth. 

Trena

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"
Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg Here-Together-banner.jpg

A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]


Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Jill <jillspencer@...>
 

Rachel,

What is PPOP?  As a community member not directly involved in a service or government organization, I find acronyms challenging.  

Thanks for clarification.

Jill

On Jul 4, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Rachel Day <rachelday@...> wrote:

Thank you for your honesty Trena.  PPOP is a disgrace to the communities they inundate with needles and other drug paraphernalia.  I have had users tell me they increased their use once PPOP came into their lives.  Portland just enables, enables and enables. 




On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:42 PM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:
 Good Afternoon,

 I’ve been doing this for well over a decade now and I can tell you that drug and alcohol addiction amongst the homeless is about 95% of the homeless  populace. I’m not an expert but I know the people. The former president of the Clackamas County  lawyers Association asked me what I thought the chief causes of homelessness where.  That’s a no brainer as the people have 1° or another of mental illness exacerbated by drug amd/or  alcohol addiction. The life itself is so oppressive you will do anything to escape that pain. The expert should have a seat at the table. 

 That’s just my two cents worth. 

Trena

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"
Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

<Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg> <Here-Together-banner.jpg>

A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]







Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Verna Dunlap
 

Thanks Trena you are right about that. My shelter was full of self medicating dot and no direction people. That’s the way they showed up. Lost and all I could do was get them I’d and a counselor through the county bring in the service people and hope and pray those with the resources had a working plan for them. The county offered medical and classes but if they didn’t have a carrot 🥕 they were seldom used. Unless. They had a po then that helped get things in line.
I think the college offers the best help. They take 9 credit hours and they get income and something to occupy their time. Coming up with vocational courses that will pay a living wage like generator air conditioning electrical apprenticeship stuff that our local businesses can be subsidized for would also be awesome.
There is a fed backed lives in transition course that pays 6 credit hours. And if the client took an apprenticeship job that paid them a bit and gave them three more credit hours for 3/4 hours. The client could make if on a student loan a starting financial base. Then. They could see light and get off the self medicating.
Spot on we need a package.


Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Trena Sutton
 

I  hope people reading my posting understand that drug and alcohol addiction is a side effect of being homeless. I had one woman tell me just yesterday but she was having a very hard time staying sober after treatment and living in a tent with her  Long time significant other who is still in his addiction. They’re both wonderful people with problems that come along with living outdoors. If I had to live outdoors and live along the spring water or downtown I guarantee I would be using and/or  imbibing. It’s about the only way they can escape the terror that they live with daily. This is not a skate for them as I put many of them into treatment but they have to be willing to go. The DSM 5  clearly states that this is a mental illness and compassionate treatment needs to be available. If they choose to continue at self-destructive life when help is available that will be on them. That sounds a bit strong but I have learned over the years that Tough love is needed but I also know it’s still love 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:37 PM Rachel Day <rachelday@...> wrote:
Thank you for your honesty Trena.  PPOP is a disgrace to the communities they inundate with needles and other drug paraphernalia.  I have had users tell me they increased their use once PPOP came into their lives.  Portland just enables, enables and enables. 




On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:42 PM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:
 Good Afternoon,

 I’ve been doing this for well over a decade now and I can tell you that drug and alcohol addiction amongst the homeless is about 95% of the homeless  populace. I’m not an expert but I know the people. The former president of the Clackamas County  lawyers Association asked me what I thought the chief causes of homelessness where.  That’s a no brainer as the people have 1° or another of mental illness exacerbated by drug amd/or  alcohol addiction. The life itself is so oppressive you will do anything to escape that pain. The expert should have a seat at the table. 

 That’s just my two cents worth. 

Trena

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"
Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg Here-Together-banner.jpg

A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Leo Kaminski
 

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition
--
Leo Kaminski
leok2@...


PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Portland Shelter Forum
 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:

last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 
PDXshelterforum.jpg
We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Re: Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

Rae Richen
 

Jill,

Right on about acronyms. Here’s what I found about that one.

Rae

Portland People's Outreach Project: PPOP



www.portlandpeoplesoutreach.org

 

 

 

From: pdxshelterforum@groups.io <pdxshelterforum@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jill
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:54 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] Metro homeless tax committee under scrutiny over lack of houseless & substance-abuse survivors representation

 

Rachel,

 

What is PPOP?  As a community member not directly involved in a service or government organization, I find acronyms challenging.  

 

Thanks for clarification.

 

Jill



On Jul 4, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Rachel Day <rachelday@...> wrote:

 

Thank you for your honesty Trena.  PPOP is a disgrace to the communities they inundate with needles and other drug paraphernalia.  I have had users tell me they increased their use once PPOP came into their lives.  Portland just enables, enables and enables. 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:42 PM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 Good Afternoon,

 

 I’ve been doing this for well over a decade now and I can tell you that drug and alcohol addiction amongst the homeless is about 95% of the homeless  populace. I’m not an expert but I know the people. The former president of the Clackamas County  lawyers Association asked me what I thought the chief causes of homelessness where.  That’s a no brainer as the people have 1° or another of mental illness exacerbated by drug amd/or  alcohol addiction. The life itself is so oppressive you will do anything to escape that pain. The expert should have a seat at the table. 

 

 That’s just my two cents worth. 

 

Trena

 

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:

"Metro homeless tax committee membership under scrutiny"

Zane Sparling, Portland Tribune, Thursday, July 02, 2020
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/472344-382069-metro-homeless-tax-committee-membership-under-scrutiny-

A coalition of addiction service providers say the committee lacks representation from substance abuse survivors and the homeless.

 

<Metro-logo-street-banner.jpg> <Here-Together-banner.jpg>


A coalition of nine local addiction recovery agencies want a seat at the table as the tri-county regional government considers how to dole out the cash from a homeless services money measure.

Led by Tony Vezina, executive director of 4D Recovery, the group says Metro's committee for the recently passed regional supportive housing measure "lacks significant representation" from key constituent groups.

"As far as we can tell, the Regional Supportive Housing Services Stakeholder Advisory Table lacks representation from those with lived experience of homelessness, mental illness and substance use recovery," says the three-page letter, dated July 2, and addressed to the Metro Council.

The letter asks the council to postpone the first meeting of the advisory committee, which is slated to meet virtually on Monday, July 6.
[..]

 

 

 

 

 


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Candee Wilson
 

If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.
Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332
On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:
last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 
PDXshelterforum.jpg
We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
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Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


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Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Danielle Elowe
 

From what I've read and heard directly from unsheltered folks, the houseless community has not so far responded favorably to the utilization of the Wapato Jail site for reasons that seem obvious. 1) It's a jail, and regardless of facelifts that fact will remain triggering to many 2) More pragmatically, it is super far away from City Center. While they can promise to be self-sufficient in regards to medical and social services, it still smells of something carceral - the message reads We'll ship you way out here until you're ready to rejoin all of us in civilised society.

I'm not discounting it's potential usefulness entirely, but I think a ton more community input is needed, not from the city or from non-profits, but from those directly affected. That's my two cents.

-Danielle Elowe

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM Candee Wilson <candee@...> wrote:
If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.
Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332
On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:
last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 

We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Trena Sutton
 

 In addition to that information people need to be aware that they will be drug tested and will eventually have to go into treatment. I agree with this 100%. I’m addition  there will not be a place for couples as in the women’s dorm there will be women who are escaping domestic violence or sexual salt that would not feel comfortable with having men in the women’s area or women in the men’s area. Children are welcome and will stay with their same sex parent  if they are under a certain age. I was just told that they will not except RVs parked in the parking lot. This is a life-saving project.  Many plans are in the works as Time and $  are  available. Please feel free to correct any of the aforementioned statements as I am being told these items but that may have changed.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:22 PM Candee Wilson <candee@...> wrote:
If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.
Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332
On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:
last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 
PDXshelterforum.jpg
We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Jason Renaud
 

The state and mental & addiction health advocates looked at Wapato pretty carefully in 2002 for conversion to a new state hospital - this prior to the total rehab of the state hospital in Salem. The wide consensus agreement was Wapato is fundamentally a jail and there was no way to convert it - outside of demolition and a total rebuild. With consensus state facilities crossed it off from any future development planning. Their thought was with some minor adjustments it could be converted to a state or Federal prison. 

Since then there have been dozens of various attempts to restart this idea, but all have failed a variety of tests laid out by thoughtful knowledgeable people -  distance, capital cost, operations costs, amenities, services, aesthetics. Danielle's is right, also include the county, the city, addiction recovery community, the mental health treatment community, and pretty much any homeless service provided not funded by Jordan Schnitzer. They've all opposed - or would oppose if a proposal were real and not smoke. This is a rich man who bought a white elephant and to fix Martin v Boise by demanding public funding for a terrible idea. He's probably spent more money demanding public funds than he paid for the property. Trumpian, at best. 

There are straightforward solutions to reduce the amount of time various people spend homeless. They require blended funding from the Fed, states and counties, and private philanthropy, none of which make reducing homelessness a priority. People who are homeless and unsheltered don't vote and don't make political contributions. Example - the jacked Metro Bond future dollars are already being channeled toward rent relief & "affordable housing" and not services & shelter for the unsheltered. But Wapato is not a solution. 

Just say no to Wapato. 

Jason Renaud

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:32 PM Danielle Elowe <danielle@...> wrote:
From what I've read and heard directly from unsheltered folks, the houseless community has not so far responded favorably to the utilization of the Wapato Jail site for reasons that seem obvious. 1) It's a jail, and regardless of facelifts that fact will remain triggering to many 2) More pragmatically, it is super far away from City Center. While they can promise to be self-sufficient in regards to medical and social services, it still smells of something carceral - the message reads We'll ship you way out here until you're ready to rejoin all of us in civilised society.

I'm not discounting it's potential usefulness entirely, but I think a ton more community input is needed, not from the city or from non-profits, but from those directly affected. That's my two cents.

-Danielle Elowe

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM Candee Wilson <candee@...> wrote:
If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.
Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332
On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:
last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 
PDXshelterforum.jpg
We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Trena Sutton
 

Jason Renault  that was the assessment of the state and county because they wanted someone to buy it does it and put up warehouses so they could get the tax revenues put in the coffers. I don’t remember seeing you with any of the meetings in dealing with this “Rich White Man”.  Jordan is a kind and very decent man. His family has a legacy of  philanthropic projects that have benefited people for many, many years. Helping Hands is a proven solution, they have been very successful in opening up seven homeless shelters on the coast. 

Match Resourse has gone into this project and people have been very generous, not only with their money but their talents. You sound like that city commissioner who opened her mouth without knowing all the facts. If the county had ran it for any purpose I would not have supported it in anyway because they screwed up royally much research has gone into this project and people have been very generous, not only with their money but their talents. You sound like that city commissioner who opened her mouth without knowing all the facts. If the county had ran out for any purpose I would not have supported it in anyway because they screwed up royally  in building Wapato. It was built as a medium security jail but of course never opened. I seen the architectural renderings and they are fantastic. I’m not going to slam you in anyway because you’re entitled to your rate on this and I’ve had to deal with other short  minded people who laughingly call themselves “Advocates”, They are no such damn thing.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:30 PM Jason Renaud <info@...> wrote:
The state and mental & addiction health advocates looked at Wapato pretty carefully in 2002 for conversion to a new state hospital - this prior to the total rehab of the state hospital in Salem. The wide consensus agreement was Wapato is fundamentally a jail and there was no way to convert it - outside of demolition and a total rebuild. With consensus state facilities crossed it off from any future development planning. Their thought was with some minor adjustments it could be converted to a state or Federal prison. 

Since then there have been dozens of various attempts to restart this idea, but all have failed a variety of tests laid out by thoughtful knowledgeable people -  distance, capital cost, operations costs, amenities, services, aesthetics. Danielle's is right, also include the county, the city, addiction recovery community, the mental health treatment community, and pretty much any homeless service provided not funded by Jordan Schnitzer. They've all opposed - or would oppose if a proposal were real and not smoke. This is a rich man who bought a white elephant and to fix Martin v Boise by demanding public funding for a terrible idea. He's probably spent more money demanding public funds than he paid for the property. Trumpian, at best. 

There are straightforward solutions to reduce the amount of time various people spend homeless. They require blended funding from the Fed, states and counties, and private philanthropy, none of which make reducing homelessness a priority. People who are homeless and unsheltered don't vote and don't make political contributions. Example - the jacked Metro Bond future dollars are already being channeled toward rent relief & "affordable housing" and not services & shelter for the unsheltered. But Wapato is not a solution. 

Just say no to Wapato. 

Jason Renaud

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:32 PM Danielle Elowe <danielle@...> wrote:
From what I've read and heard directly from unsheltered folks, the houseless community has not so far responded favorably to the utilization of the Wapato Jail site for reasons that seem obvious. 1) It's a jail, and regardless of facelifts that fact will remain triggering to many 2) More pragmatically, it is super far away from City Center. While they can promise to be self-sufficient in regards to medical and social services, it still smells of something carceral - the message reads We'll ship you way out here until you're ready to rejoin all of us in civilised society.

I'm not discounting it's potential usefulness entirely, but I think a ton more community input is needed, not from the city or from non-profits, but from those directly affected. That's my two cents.

-Danielle Elowe

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM Candee Wilson <candee@...> wrote:
If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.
Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332
On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:
last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 
PDXshelterforum.jpg
We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:
  • post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 
  • email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....
  • reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum
  • use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.
thanks,
Tim McCormick 
Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

Linda Witt <linda.witt@...>
 

The City of Amsterdam had tremendous success opening a Wapato-like facility on the outskirts of the city. They found in amazingly effective to provide distance from the easy availability of substances in the core city.

 

I don’t think Wapato has been written off. I just heard a city council candidate this week discount the argument that “it’s too far”. He said it’s one light rail station from easy connectedness.

 

Linda Witt

 

From: pdxshelterforum@groups.io <pdxshelterforum@groups.io> On Behalf Of Danielle Elowe
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:31 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX

 

From what I've read and heard directly from unsheltered folks, the houseless community has not so far responded favorably to the utilization of the Wapato Jail site for reasons that seem obvious. 1) It's a jail, and regardless of facelifts that fact will remain triggering to many 2) More pragmatically, it is super far away from City Center. While they can promise to be self-sufficient in regards to medical and social services, it still smells of something carceral - the message reads We'll ship you way out here until you're ready to rejoin all of us in civilised society.

 

I'm not discounting it's potential usefulness entirely, but I think a ton more community input is needed, not from the city or from non-profits, but from those directly affected. That's my two cents.

 

-Danielle Elowe

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM Candee Wilson <candee@...> wrote:

If you aren't familiar with Alan Evans and Bybee Lakes Hope Center, this is what he wants to do with the 18+ acres at the former Wapato jail. He envisions building apartments in addition to the center for people to transition to after treatment. He also plans to use the built-in work environment surrounding the center to help find employment opportunities. This is happening right here in Portland, so ,yes, there are visionaries in our midst. And instead of just serving 200 people, it will serve over 500 eventually. We have a model to follow right here.

Candee Wilson
411 NW Flanders St. #406
Portland, OR  97209
503-789-0332

On 7/4/2020 6:49 PM, Portland Shelter Forum wrote:

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From: Leo Kaminski <leok2@...>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: PDX Shelter Forum - Check out Community First! Village in Austin TX
To: PDX Shelter Forum <pdxshelterforum@...>

 

Hello PDX Shelter Forum,

I encourage all to learn what has been done to address homelessness in other cities.  One of the best examples is Community First! Village.

Community First! Village in Austin, Texas: https://mlf.org/community-first/

This community is founded and run by Mobile Loaves and Fishes: https://mlf.org/

Community First! Village - YouTube video (one of many): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0HaWUHCO8

We need action now!  But locally, we should build on the efforts that have already been made by others here in Portland.  A lot of effort has already gone into identifying sites for villages.

Village Coalition is one group that has already done a lot of talking with the city and other agencies: https://cityrepair.org/village-coalition

Leo Kaminski
leok2@...

On 7/3/2020 3:29 PM, Tim McCormick wrote:

last Thursday we convened an online event, Portland Forum on Alternative Shelter & Villages, co-hosted by Interfaith Alliance on Poverty and Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods. We had 180+ attendees from a all walks of life, including housed and unhoused, officials and city/county staffers, neighborhood association leaders, planners, architects, and homelessness service providers.

A wide range of ideas of ideas were discussed, from possibilities under emerging City and State codes, to the Metro homeless services measure funding, to mobile and vehicle dwellings. The core question: what can we do to ensure every Portland has a safe, decent place to sleep, NOW?

 

The materials from event including presentations, video and audio, notes, and background materials, are now available, and we invite you to take a look, and share with us or to the initiative's mailing list your thoughts and suggestions. 

We welcome your ongoing input and feedback, suggestions for projects or future events: You can:

·         post to the mailing list by emailing to pdshelterforum@groups.io. (if you're not yet a member, message will be held for moderation, & you can join here). 

·         email the planning team at: pdxshelterforum@....

·         reach us on Twitter at @pdxshelterforum

·         use hashtag #pdxshelterforum when posting anything related or to track other related.

thanks,
Tim McCormick 

Portland Forum on Alternative Shelters & Villages Planning Team

 

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Tim McCormick

Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative

Portland, Oregon 

 

 

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