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Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Maureen Fisher <mfisher@...>
 

Please remove my name from this chain and email group. Thank you. 


From: pdxshelterforum@groups.io <pdxshelterforum@groups.io> on behalf of Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:23:07 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io <pdxshelterforum@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] COVID Cleanups/Sweeps
 
“Good God Woman” REALLY!  It’s public record what they make so look it up yourself. He also hires homeless people to work for him as they have a perspective that he wants. I have had naysayers have lunch with Lance and I sat there and let them chat. One was Ibrahim Mubarek and  The other was a pastor from my homeless church. Lance had them put any question to him that they wantrd to.  They all came out as good friends. You seem to be so filled with hate that you aren’t even willing to entertain that not everybody is evil  oh no do you think who oppose you. I would consider using the next $1200 stimulus check to have that chip removed off your shoulder. Anyone that actually knows me knows I would never side with anyone that was going out of their way to hurt homeless people. ODOT actually called the police on me once When I got in to their face after one of their suites during a bad rainy time of the year that killed an elderly man who was homeless. The police refused to arrest me. I will never go along to get along and I will not subscribe to peoples in accurate interpretation of events or other people.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jeff Liddicoat <outsideartsale@...> wrote:
Sorry about that I sometimes get carried away with my attempts to be funny. I apologize if offense was taken. And I’ll just say this, “I too would probably have one dinner with your Rapid Response buddy. But I promise you I’d never praise him somewhere that actual homeless people might read or hear that praise.
God god woman the man makes a ton of money inflicting all manner of harm on the homeless. I’d say he needs to put all his income into Gospel Union Mission, but I won’t say that because they suck too.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jeff Liddicoat via groups.io <outsideartsale=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Trena Sutton
 

Oh BTW I Volunteer at Union Gospel Mission because they are very caring and believing their mission of helping the disenfranchised.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jeff Liddicoat <outsideartsale@...> wrote:
Sorry about that I sometimes get carried away with my attempts to be funny. I apologize if offense was taken. And I’ll just say this, “I too would probably have one dinner with your Rapid Response buddy. But I promise you I’d never praise him somewhere that actual homeless people might read or hear that praise.
God god woman the man makes a ton of money inflicting all manner of harm on the homeless. I’d say he needs to put all his income into Gospel Union Mission, but I won’t say that because they suck too.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jeff Liddicoat via groups.io <outsideartsale=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Trena Sutton
 

“Good God Woman” REALLY!  It’s public record what they make so look it up yourself. He also hires homeless people to work for him as they have a perspective that he wants. I have had naysayers have lunch with Lance and I sat there and let them chat. One was Ibrahim Mubarek and  The other was a pastor from my homeless church. Lance had them put any question to him that they wantrd to.  They all came out as good friends. You seem to be so filled with hate that you aren’t even willing to entertain that not everybody is evil  oh no do you think who oppose you. I would consider using the next $1200 stimulus check to have that chip removed off your shoulder. Anyone that actually knows me knows I would never side with anyone that was going out of their way to hurt homeless people. ODOT actually called the police on me once When I got in to their face after one of their suites during a bad rainy time of the year that killed an elderly man who was homeless. The police refused to arrest me. I will never go along to get along and I will not subscribe to peoples in accurate interpretation of events or other people.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jeff Liddicoat <outsideartsale@...> wrote:
Sorry about that I sometimes get carried away with my attempts to be funny. I apologize if offense was taken. And I’ll just say this, “I too would probably have one dinner with your Rapid Response buddy. But I promise you I’d never praise him somewhere that actual homeless people might read or hear that praise.
God god woman the man makes a ton of money inflicting all manner of harm on the homeless. I’d say he needs to put all his income into Gospel Union Mission, but I won’t say that because they suck too.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jeff Liddicoat via groups.io <outsideartsale=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Trena Sutton
 

 Everything I stayed at is 100% factual. I’ve been a long time homeless Advocate but I also know that there is an element of the homeless population that are hot pads, liars, thieves, slobs  and are predatory. It took several years for me  being able to distinguish between the campers just doing their best to survive another day I am the bad element. I no longer confuse the two. Since you don’t have any idea about me you’re talking out of your ear. Go ahead and be a troll I was that does not bother me. Just like big-time Trump supporters I don’t want to hear  the truth.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jeff Liddicoat <outsideartsale@...> wrote:
Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Trena Sutton
 

Good Morning,

I seen that before and it is a generic posting but I do agree that they should reword it. I believe they are trying to encourage the people to keep the site clean. I’ve been doing this for many, many years and I have seen the slobs hurt the rest of the people who are just trying to survive. I’ve seen garbage piled up right outside of Tan I seen that before and it is a generic posting but I do agree that they should reword it. I believe they are trying to encourage the people to keep the sites clean. I’ve been doing this for many, many years and I have seen the slobs hurt the rest of the people who are just trying to survive. I’ve seen garbage piled up right outside of tents  with cockroaches and even a rat or two crawling on top of the massive piles. It was other campers who first complain to me many years back and we destroyed the red garbage bags for everyone. Most of the campers put their garbage in the bags and sealed them but the slobs  piled garbage right on top of them which was nothing but laziness and a responsibility. 

 I’m not a big fan of the city but like a couple of their city commissioners. They just have to stay ahead of the garbage but they do need to revamp they are notice. You cried wolf too much and they stop believing you. They need to make it clear that this is a garbage and Bio Hazard clean up only  and the campers themselves should be self policing because they hurt everyone if they do not force all campers to be responsible with their garbage. There should be a no brainer for the campers but unless they have their own council And in force this they are all going to eventually be moved out. They haven’t been enforcing the tent limit since this virus hit but no one to should that for granted and  Believe that’s a get out of jail free card. You would think that the people that live in the  Housed community  would be the biggest  Bitchers but It’s actually the campers who are just trying to survive your good stewards of the land.




On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
Trena - Thank you for the information. If the noticed action is only to remove garbage, it seems we need to do a better job informing those people who are living in these areas. The notice says: 

This campsite has been determined to be a public health and safety hazard by the City of Portland and will be posted for personal property removal unless the following criteria are met:
...
3. Limit campsites to fewer than 8 structures. 

The person in the video was under the impression they were going to be forced to relocate and it appears they had experienced that process before. I was under the impression that sites with more than 8 tents/structures would be broken up as well. For someone who has experienced being forced to relocate before, and who sees a notice with similar language, how is one supposed to know if they will be forced to relocate or if someone is just going to come by to clean up garbage? There is trauma associated with living in fear that you may be forced to move at any time, with little notice. Moving is stressful for everyone, but especially when you have no place to go. 


On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.





--
SEAN GREEN
Founder & COO, Aforma
Chair, NECN (Chair, LUTC)
Member, DRAC (Chair, PITC)

c 971.998.7376 IG:
 
@AFORMACO


Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Jeff Liddicoat
 

Sorry about that I sometimes get carried away with my attempts to be funny. I apologize if offense was taken. And I’ll just say this, “I too would probably have one dinner with your Rapid Response buddy. But I promise you I’d never praise him somewhere that actual homeless people might read or hear that praise.
God god woman the man makes a ton of money inflicting all manner of harm on the homeless. I’d say he needs to put all his income into Gospel Union Mission, but I won’t say that because they suck too.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jeff Liddicoat via groups.io <outsideartsale=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Jeff Liddicoat
 

Remember the Saturday Night Live parody of the CBS program which had debates between James J Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander. In the SNL version the Kilpatrick character always led in with ‘Jane you ignorant slut...’
I just frankly don’t know where to begin in listing the problems with Trena’s oh so proper (not) observations. So I won’t. I’ll leave it at
Trena....

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Sean Green
 

Trena - Thank you for the information. If the noticed action is only to remove garbage, it seems we need to do a better job informing those people who are living in these areas. The notice says: 

This campsite has been determined to be a public health and safety hazard by the City of Portland and will be posted for personal property removal unless the following criteria are met:
...
3. Limit campsites to fewer than 8 structures. 

The person in the video was under the impression they were going to be forced to relocate and it appears they had experienced that process before. I was under the impression that sites with more than 8 tents/structures would be broken up as well. For someone who has experienced being forced to relocate before, and who sees a notice with similar language, how is one supposed to know if they will be forced to relocate or if someone is just going to come by to clean up garbage? There is trauma associated with living in fear that you may be forced to move at any time, with little notice. Moving is stressful for everyone, but especially when you have no place to go. 


On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:

 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.





--
SEAN GREEN
Founder & COO, Aforma
Chair, NECN (Chair, LUTC)
Member, DRAC (Chair, PITC)

c 971.998.7376 IG:
 
@AFORMACO


Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Trena Sutton
 


 As much as I adore Sarah she has been misinformed. This is not a sweep it is cleaning up of garbage only. I went right to the source and found out this is not accurate. 

 All I ask is that people be fair and their judgment.  Without facts you cannot come to a logical conclusion about any person or any action. Several years ago I  got into the face of the owner of rapid response.  I found out back some of the campers on the Springwater we’re not accurate  and what they were saying to me and other advocates, not accurate at all. This is a cleanup and I suggested to the advocates that they talk to the people and have their garbage deposited in one dedicated area away from the tents and off of common areas that people may walk in. This is a safety  issue for both the people utilizing the area  which includes the campers. 

 I know Lance ( Who owns Rapid Response).  I’ve had he and his wife in my home for dinner. He has done a great deal for the homeless but he’s humble and has not taken credit for this.  When I’m told by UGM’s Search and Rescue  that they are running low on supplies they contact me and I contact Lance and he always provides them and much more. He may be disenchanted that I am posting this but I believe in Fair play.  That’s just one of the kindnesses he has done for the disenfranchised. It’s absolutely appropriate to have concerns but I would ask people to also be certain of their facts.  City Hall makes the decision to sweep or just remove the garbage and today it’s just to remove garbage and biohazards if indicated. 

God Bless All,

Trena

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:51 PM Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:
Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: Outhouses for those in tents

Emerson This
 

Anne sent me a link to this local company which looks very interesting!

On Jul 27, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Emerson This via groups.io <emersonthis@...> wrote:


@Lea If set up correctly, the waste from a compositing toilet breaks down into essentially pitting soil, and not even a biohazard. You could literally use it in a garden. Or burry it, etc. I was very skeptical when I first learned about it, but I’ve seen it first hand. I’ll follow up later with some resources.

@Robert G I know of a few commercial makers but they tend to be expensive and designed for niche applications different than this. However the expense isn’t from the composting “technology”. The companies I know of market to sailboats and off-grid hunting cabins, etc so much of the price is for form factor etc. Meanwhile, I know people who literally use a 5 gallon bucket and some sawdust. There may be companies making a product that’s designed for this setting. I’ll do some research. In the mean time, the best place to start might be just understanding the concept in general and just how simple it is. 

Here’s a short video demoing a product designed for RVs: https://youtu.be/dYR6GPmDzVM It’s one of the products I have first hand experience with.
Their use case is different than ours, but the underlying concept is the same at any scale. There’s a lot of videos like this out there.



On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:24 AM, robert greene <greeneportland@...> wrote:

there's a lack of knowledge about composting toilets today. Perhaps
someone knows of a company that's making composting toilets and   .run
some info on the toilets, maybe even where the toilets are installed

Robert Greene

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:32 PM Emerson This <emersonthis@...> wrote:

I’ve second the idea about compositing toilets. I have some direct experience with them and it has been entirely positive. In addition to being more sustainable and, frankly, less gross than porta-a-potties I strongly suspect it would be cheaper, too. Yet I almost never hear this discussed. I wonder if that’s due to lack of knowledge about this option, or maybe there’s some reason I’m unaware of.

Does anyone know of any examples / case-studies where composting toilets have been used in this context?

—Emerson


On Jul 26, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:


You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once  about losing their Porta pottys  over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to  campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert.  The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:

well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use.

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee.

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding.

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:

A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.






Re: Outhouses for those in tents

Emerson This
 

@Lea If set up correctly, the waste from a compositing toilet breaks down into essentially pitting soil, and not even a biohazard. You could literally use it in a garden. Or burry it, etc. I was very skeptical when I first learned about it, but I’ve seen it first hand. I’ll follow up later with some resources.

@Robert G I know of a few commercial makers but they tend to be expensive and designed for niche applications different than this. However the expense isn’t from the composting “technology”. The companies I know of market to sailboats and off-grid hunting cabins, etc so much of the price is for form factor etc. Meanwhile, I know people who literally use a 5 gallon bucket and some sawdust. There may be companies making a product that’s designed for this setting. I’ll do some research. In the mean time, the best place to start might be just understanding the concept in general and just how simple it is. 

Here’s a short video demoing a product designed for RVs: https://youtu.be/dYR6GPmDzVM It’s one of the products I have first hand experience with.
Their use case is different than ours, but the underlying concept is the same at any scale. There’s a lot of videos like this out there.



On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:24 AM, robert greene <greeneportland@...> wrote:

there's a lack of knowledge about composting toilets today. Perhaps
someone knows of a company that's making composting toilets and   .run
some info on the toilets, maybe even where the toilets are installed

Robert Greene

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:32 PM Emerson This <emersonthis@...> wrote:

I’ve second the idea about compositing toilets. I have some direct experience with them and it has been entirely positive. In addition to being more sustainable and, frankly, less gross than porta-a-potties I strongly suspect it would be cheaper, too. Yet I almost never hear this discussed. I wonder if that’s due to lack of knowledge about this option, or maybe there’s some reason I’m unaware of.

Does anyone know of any examples / case-studies where composting toilets have been used in this context?

—Emerson


On Jul 26, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:


You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once  about losing their Porta pottys  over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to  campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert.  The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:

well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use.

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee.

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding.

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:

A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.






Re: Outhouses for those in tents

robert greene
 

there's a lack of knowledge about composting toilets today. Perhaps
someone knows of a company that's making composting toilets and .run
some info on the toilets, maybe even where the toilets are installed

Robert Greene

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:32 PM Emerson This <emersonthis@gmail.com> wrote:

I’ve second the idea about compositing toilets. I have some direct experience with them and it has been entirely positive. In addition to being more sustainable and, frankly, less gross than porta-a-potties I strongly suspect it would be cheaper, too. Yet I almost never hear this discussed. I wonder if that’s due to lack of knowledge about this option, or maybe there’s some reason I’m unaware of.

Does anyone know of any examples / case-studies where composting toilets have been used in this context?

—Emerson


On Jul 26, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@gmail.com> wrote:


You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once about losing their Porta pottys over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert. The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@gmail.com> wrote:

well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use.

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it? Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee.

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding.

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@hotmail.com> wrote:

A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses. She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th. Nice to have 50 on the way. I've no idea how they will be allocated. Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.


Re: Outhouses for those in tents

Lea Peace
 

The question I have about composting toilets: what is done with it in a city setting? 

Similarly, I put my cats litter In a plastic bag and put it in the dumpster. Is that what is to be done with it?

Lea Peace

On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:32 PM, Emerson This <emersonthis@...> wrote:

I’ve second the idea about compositing toilets. I have some direct experience with them and it has been entirely positive. In addition to being more sustainable and, frankly, less gross than porta-a-potties I strongly suspect it would be cheaper, too. Yet I almost never hear this discussed. I wonder if that’s due to lack of knowledge about this option, or maybe there’s some reason I’m unaware of.

Does anyone know of any examples / case-studies where composting toilets have been used in this context?

—Emerson


On Jul 26, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:


You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once  about losing their Porta pottys  over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to  campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert.  The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use. 

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee. 

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding. 

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.   


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:
A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.


Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Jeff Liddicoat
 

Really? Necessary for public health? Covid 19 is still in full swing and the CDC says let people shelter in place, that sweeps of the homeless should not happen, that it is the sweeps that are a threat to the homeless and the public. At the start of the pandemic Wheeler’s One Point of Contact complied with that CDC directive. What has changed? Not a thing. They don’t give a shit about human beings other than themselves and their own class allies. I don’t like the property destruction at the current protests but all some people care about is property and for some it’s the only way to make them consider that lives other than their own matter. 
     Destroying property isn’t even in the same category as violence against living breathing people. And make no mistake about it sweeps are violent. Sweeps destroy lives. Sweeps kill. The CDC knows it. The mayor knows it. We all know it.
     And now adding insult to injury the city’s new number one criteria for initiating a sweep is ‘where there are 8 or more tents. I’ve already watched people collapse a tent and double up in a single tent to keep the area below the 8 tent threshold for a sweep. Forcing people to double and triple up in small enclosed tents during a pandemic is not just I’ll advised it’s premeditated negligent homicide. Homeless people will be infected and will die at a higher rate because of the restart of sweeps. One way or the other they will take a few non homeless citizens with them.


On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:51 PM, Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:


Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Tim McCormick
 

Sarah Iannarone wrote about this on Twitter this evening, see thread  
https://twitter.com/sarahforpdx/status/1287575962956095489, copied below with my comments on thread also: 


sarah iannarone (she/her) @sarahforpdx - 7:20 PM · Jul 26, 2020

non-#portlandprotest call to action thread

On top of COVID-19 and a triple-digit heatwave, incumbent Mayor Ted Wheeler has decided this is the week to evict an encampment of unhoused Portlanders in St. Johns, dismantling and displacing a community of 75 or so residents.
Image

"For several years, Portland City Hall policy would be to uproot this camp as soon as it grew beyond a few people and scatter its residents to other places. But the city suspended such sweeps the first week of March, because of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Today, we're in a similar position as 4 mos ago when Gov Brown issued the first stay-at-home order, but
@rachelamonahan reports City Hall's resuming sweeps saying they're "necessary for public health."

Gah! It's housing that's necessary for public health.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/07/portland-to-resume-homeless-camp-sweeps/

The community is asking for help. They filmed this message to and . Not only should they NOT be swept this week, they need immediate help. #SleepNotSweeps #NoDisplacementWithoutReplacement


Their specific ask: MONDAY 7/27/2020, Noon-2PM
Cup with straw
Deliver COVID supplies (masks, sanitizer), heat-stable food, and WATER WATER WATER.
Wastebasket
Volunteer to help bag up refuse, and generally tidy up in support of this community.
Squared sos
Help wherever you can.

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/25/houseless-face-imminent-heat-wave-fewer-resources

Please boost in St. Johns especially, post on FB or your other networks:
@ambrown @Reed_PDX @_RitaMoore @PaulRippey@mrlloydeo @ToolsyFielder @josambo @hrippey @TrevorSamRob @MimiGPDX @llake13 @Gus_Kroll @ThornCoyle @pdxlawgrrrl @StreetRoots @colemerkel @mkaiasand @JulesBoykoff


Replying to @sarahforpdx
 
it's clear the city/county does not, as for years, see a credible threat or alternative to sweeps & just moving people along. What might be?
a) is it plausible to human-wall off posted camp in time to block sweepers, so they delay it or have to force/arrest people?

Protest wall, or just completely solid wall of people merely enjoying the park/trailway?
Could targeted unhoused settlements be defended as extension sites of #PortlandProtest? What tracking / advance notice of sweepers might be achieved?  2/n

At sweep, how large a media spectacle could be created? could every affected person be followed up with to see what shelter is offered, taken? & how any on-site shelter, belongings, get handled? Also, can it be named to help it be defended, eg #PeninsulaVillage #PCTvillage? 3/n

Legal: how might " public safety" rationale be challenged, eg by ensuring good practices at camps? 2nd, recent  #BlakevGrantsPass ruling may help build case vs PDX structures ban, the other key sweeps basis. Design/find a test case? 4/n

That's threat side; at same time, how are plausible alternatives built, eg citywide, scale-of-need, rights-assured, self-determining villages? Many are working on this, at  @pdxshelterforum we're trying to make it & Qs above an open, collaborative effort+coalition; u r invited 5/5

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Sean Green <green@...> wrote:
I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: Outhouses for those in tents

Emerson This
 

I’ve second the idea about compositing toilets. I have some direct experience with them and it has been entirely positive. In addition to being more sustainable and, frankly, less gross than porta-a-potties I strongly suspect it would be cheaper, too. Yet I almost never hear this discussed. I wonder if that’s due to lack of knowledge about this option, or maybe there’s some reason I’m unaware of.

Does anyone know of any examples / case-studies where composting toilets have been used in this context?

—Emerson


On Jul 26, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Trena Sutton <thegirlsok@...> wrote:


You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once  about losing their Porta pottys  over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to  campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert.  The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use. 

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee. 

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding. 

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.   


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:
A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.


COVID Cleanups/Sweeps

Sean Green
 

I think it is important to hear from folks with lived experience. The response to impending COVID cleanups/sweeps from this member of our community is powerful. This person echos many of the sentiments I have heard from other folks who are just looking for a place to live where they won’t be forced to leave.




Re: Outhouses for those in tents

Trena Sutton
 

You are Spot on correct. In addition to maintenance there’s the issue of people putting use needles in the bowl. I watched R2D2 threatenef more than once  about losing their Porta pottys  over the needle issue. Then when a porta potty was given to  campers along the spring water near SE 82nd and SE Lambert.  The city provided dumpsters and Porta pottys But it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens trying to cause trouble there and blame that on the house t but it ended up being a mess with the garbage all over and needles in the bowl. Most campers were very respectful of what you were getting but not all were. I also know that some house citizens tried to cause trouble there and blamed it on the houseless.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:02 PM Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:
well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use. 

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee. 

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding. 

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.   


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:
A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.


MOLTO BENE!!!!!!!] Mobile Solar Powered Propane-Fueled ShowerPod thanks to LaQuida

Will Denecke
 

The mobile solar powered shower pod is VERY COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Will Denecke

 

 

 

From: pdxshelterforum@groups.io [mailto:pdxshelterforum@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew Olshin
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:32 PM
To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io
Subject: [pdxshelterforum] Mobile Solar Powered Propane-Fueled ShowerPod in use from noon-6pm today, Sunday 7,26 thanks to LaQuida

 


Thanks, 

Andy Olshin



On Jul 26, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Andrew Olshin <andrew.olshin@...> wrote:



Thanks, 

Andy Olshin



On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Darlene Urban Garrett <darleneurbangarrett@...> wrote:



Barb,

 

I don't think we are reinventing anything or even inventing anything. We are saying more safe, clean, sanitary options need to be made available and funding needs to be allocated for this.Camping on the sidewalks is literally doing nothing for no one. 

 

I believe those that are unsheltered should be involved, espicially doing camp oversight , management, helping to find sites, and  moving people to safe sanitary locations.

 

I also believe that just because a person does not have lived experience, does not mean they cannot help. A wise doctor once told me that you don't have to have the problem in order to know how to cure it.

 

Best

Darlene

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Barb Rainish <whatisright88@...>

Date: 7/26/20 2:52 PM (GMT-08:00)

To: pdxshelterforum@groups.io

Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] Outhouses for those in tents

 

Hi there,

 

 

Have you looked at the shower and toilet facilities at Harbor of Hope? Have you checked in with H4A ( HYGIENE for all)?

 

I love your goals, but without people with lived experience ( living outside, not only providers) it's hard for the housed to even imagine being houseless.

 

 It looks like too much reinventing the wheel.  What type of toilets is the city ordering 50 of?? Where are they being located?

I'd happily follow this up if need be.

 

Thanks for all the work you all are putting into this.

 

Barb.

 

 

 

 

 

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 2:01 PM David Dickson <dicksondavidk@...> wrote:

I think Houseless First has a great idea.  It will make the process of locating land for the toilets more complex, since it will be harder to establish a larger piece of land to include campers than simply a place for a toilet and washing station.  But the idea of charging the campers with some level of maintenance or simply protection of the toilet makes sense ( I like the idea of Caretaker, suggested by Houseless first.). The campers will need to create a safe environment where people from the larger community will be comfortable using the toilets. The more we can empower camps to operate like communities with self governance and perhaps pay to some members for services to the community, the healthier our campsites will be.  Unlike many of you I have little experience visiting with campsites and talking to campers (and I respect this experience), but I do have 70 years of experience working with people.  And people are people, wherever they live.

 

One more thought…In the 3 sanctioned Covid campsites the city set up, the porta-potties are all inside the fenced area of the campsite.  It seems that this would not be conducive to outsiders using the toilets (or would it be?)  Could the toilets be located just outside the camp, with campers responsible for its protection?  It seems to me that campers/caretakers could provide some daily maintenance, but the periodic flushing and cleaning would certainly be done by a contractor.  And as long as the porta potties are probably going to get “marked”, how about commissioning a camper or two to do murals on the ports potty?  As Houseless First said, “A guy can dream, right."



On Jul 25, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:

 

well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use. 

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee. 

 

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding. 

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.   

 

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:

A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.

 

 

 

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Mobile Hygiene Units

Andrew Olshin
 

Cascadia Clusters is ready to lease our ADA Single Shower/Single ADA Laundry Unit capable of 50 showers/ 12 hrs.   We have not had as chance to accurately predict laundry usage but would live to connect with the Block R folks re their experience, data.  

Thanks, 
Andy Olshin

On Jul 26, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Lisa Marandas <lmarandas@...> wrote:

I will also include Oregon Harbor of Hope as previously mentioned .

Oregonharborofhope.org, 

Schedule under mobile hygiene.

  Operating six days a week all over the city.  Staff operating since launch are folks living outside.  

Launched last September and has been successfully operating since.


Mobile Hygiene to include five showers to include one ADA. 

- Laundry truck as well on specific days.

Lisa M. Marandas
Deputy Director & Operations Manager
Oregon Harbor of Hope
1616 NW 13th Avenue
Portland, Oregon 97209 
503-799-4216
lmarandas@...

On Jul 26, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Tim McCormick <tmccormick@...> wrote:


a Hygiene Working Group was one of the top priority directions identified at the June 25 Forum, as described in item #3 of the post-event wrapup post here: https://groups.io/g/pdxshelterforum/message/10.

With this conversation we could say it is now in action -- subproject to examine current hygiene needs & responses, help and develop them or perhaps new ones. Thanks for suggestions, everyone, and let's keep in mind we're here to surface and share ideas, we shouldn't feel like we have to be already expert-level informed or have complete solutions, for it to be constructive discussion.  

Despite the thread subject line, I'd ask: need this be only for 'those in tents'? perhaps they could be, for anyone in public, run as a revenue-making service by houseless caretakers. Public toilets are a general need, just like housing is a general need, and I'm in favor of approaches that assume we're all in the same boat and make use of that equation. What if we conceived some kind of 2.0 version of the Portland Loo, designed for agile street-community deployment & maintenance? [also, why need the unhoused be in tents? Let's get/build better, safer dwelling setups].  

Also, could they be composting, or exploring/demonstrating something other than our standard, biohazardous & industrialized sewage-pumpout method? There is loads of work going on globally, and keen interesting locally/regionally, to develop new more sustainable & efficient ways to do facilities like this.

Q #1:  can anyone with leads/contacts at Downtown Neighborhood Association, City, etc try to find out for us what is this recent funding of 50 additional outhouses?  Who's been funded, is it a budget allocation or a contract, what stipulations are on it as to how it's done? This seems like the current boat in the water, let's see if/how it might be steered.


Meanwhile, significant existing community-driven efforts include:

1) Hygiene4All project led by Sandra Comstock (Sandra@..., Bcc-ed here), as mentioned by Barb.
This aims to create a prototype 2-toilet, houseless-designed & -run hygiene facility in the Central Eastside.
h4apdx.org.
facebook.com/HygieneForA/.

2) Cascadia Clusters, led by Andy Olshin who presented at the Forum and proposed there this as near-term focus.
They are currently focusing on ShowerPod units, solar/propane powered, including one currently deployed at times in Old Town as Andy's picture on other thread shows.

ANDY any ideas/plans for toilet/outhouse structures? I imagine it's been suggested or discussed.

Personally, mobile bathrooms designed/build/run like CC does seem WAY more appealing and appropriate than Port-a-Potties, everything about which signals emergency/temporary / non-housed / outcasting. I'd rather we avoided things we can't imagine a Commissioner / senior official / leader putting in their own back yard or vacation property.  

--
Tim McCormick
Editor at HousingWiki, Organizer at Village Collaborative
Portland, Oregon 


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:16 PM Darlene Urban Garrett <darleneurbangarrett@...> wrote:
Barb,

I don't think we are reinventing anything or even inventing anything. We are saying more safe, clean, sanitary options need to be made available and funding needs to be allocated for this.Camping on the sidewalks is literally doing nothing for no one. 

I believe those that are unsheltered should be involved, espicially doing camp oversight , management, helping to find sites, and  moving people to safe sanitary locations.

I also believe that just because a person does not have lived experience, does not mean they cannot help. A wise doctor once told me that you don't have to have the problem in order to know how to cure it.

Best
Darlene


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Barb Rainish <whatisright88@...>
Date: 7/26/20 2:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [pdxshelterforum] Outhouses for those in tents

Hi there,


Have you looked at the shower and toilet facilities at Harbor of Hope? Have you checked in with H4A ( HYGIENE for all)?

I love your goals, but without people with lived experience ( living outside, not only providers) it's hard for the housed to even imagine being houseless.

 It looks like too much reinventing the wheel.  What type of toilets is the city ordering 50 of?? Where are they being located?
I'd happily follow this up if need be.

Thanks for all the work you all are putting into this.

Barb.





On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 2:01 PM David Dickson <dicksondavidk@...> wrote:
I think Houseless First has a great idea.  It will make the process of locating land for the toilets more complex, since it will be harder to establish a larger piece of land to include campers than simply a place for a toilet and washing station.  But the idea of charging the campers with some level of maintenance or simply protection of the toilet makes sense ( I like the idea of Caretaker, suggested by Houseless first.). The campers will need to create a safe environment where people from the larger community will be comfortable using the toilets. The more we can empower camps to operate like communities with self governance and perhaps pay to some members for services to the community, the healthier our campsites will be.  Unlike many of you I have little experience visiting with campsites and talking to campers (and I respect this experience), but I do have 70 years of experience working with people.  And people are people, wherever they live.

One more thought…In the 3 sanctioned Covid campsites the city set up, the porta-potties are all inside the fenced area of the campsite.  It seems that this would not be conducive to outsiders using the toilets (or would it be?)  Could the toilets be located just outside the camp, with campers responsible for its protection?  It seems to me that campers/caretakers could provide some daily maintenance, but the periodic flushing and cleaning would certainly be done by a contractor.  And as long as the porta potties are probably going to get “marked”, how about commissioning a camper or two to do murals on the ports potty?  As Houseless First said, “A guy can dream, right."

On Jul 25, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Houseless First <houselessfirst@...> wrote:

well toilets are nice, but open-to-all toilets left in public places are almost never adequately maintained or feel safe/comfortable for most people to use. 

Howww about the city, to safeguard and maximize this investment in (I imagine) Port-a-Potties, allow a VILLAGE around each one, to take care of it?  Like, some safe space where a few lucky houseless could huddle and self-shelter with a temporary reprieve from threats of sweeps and ticketing and the demolishing/disposal of their homes. For me that'd be like, awesome, spectacular, a ticket to freedom with merely maintenance of an open-pit toilet as the fee. 

Perhaps if part of the toilets contract were diverted to them because of how much less external maintenance might be needed, the caretakers might even eat, or afford bedding. 

Perhaps it could be called something palatable like say, a Local Community Partnership Caretakers Site, to avoid anything terrifying like "Village" or "shelter"?

idk. A guy can dream, plenty of time for that out on the streets while waiting for the crumbs to fall from city council.   


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM <john_elizalde@...> wrote:
A member of the Downtown Neighborhood Association board told me the city has allocated funding for 50 additional outhouses.  She and I had been talking about trying to find one for the 50+/- campers near SW Main/SW 13th.  Nice to have 50 on the way.  I've no idea how they will be allocated.  Squeaky wheel is a standard practice from what I've seen.



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