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Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

sdmonaco
 

Hi Jack,

I have a paid license for Eagle 6 that I use.  It has the board size limitation.  I have attached a photo of one of my projects I did a while back.  I used the mill layer for cutting and  layer 1 for scoring.  The drilling was done by hand afterward using pcb hole spotting to mark the locations.  I did this because the mounting holes were larger than my largest pcb drill bit.  Sam

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

looks good.. thats much like what I am trying to achieve..
I simply want to pilot-hole define where the drill holes are, then go back by hand and drill them up to size..
my licensed eagle is old..4.09 32bit complete with autorouter, but i am blown away with the free download 9.1.0.. it apparently does 2 sides, 80cm2, and is all there..i havent used it all the way thru cam so maybe there's a block somewhere..if not, i am truely amazed..someone please correct me if i'm wrong..

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 2:45 PM, sdmonaco via Groups.Io <sdmonaco@...> wrote:
Hi Jack,

I have a paid license for Eagle 6 that I use.  It has the board size limitation.  I have attached a photo of one of my projects I did a while back.  I used the mill layer for cutting and  layer 1 for scoring.  The drilling was done by hand afterward using pcb hole spotting to mark the locations.  I did this because the mounting holes were larger than my largest pcb drill bit.  Sam

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Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

peterg1000
 

Eagle 9.x free edition limits board size to 80 square cms - i.e 10cm by 8cm. Not unfortunately 80cm x 80cm!!

Board outlines I mill by making the outline larger than required by 1/2 the end mill diameter.  Replicate the milling gcode for each complete pass, increasing the Z parameter by a small amount (say 0.25mm) for each pass up to the board thickness or just beyond. This will just free the board and barely mark the sacrificial base board.

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

Thankyou for the correction..it seemed too good to be true..80 x 80 cm.. and apparently it is..
still 10cm x 8cm is nothing to sneeze at.. the mill job i am trying to get working is 5in x 5 1/2in.. so apparently it falls withing the limits.. call me happy-go-lucky..


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:29 PM, peterg1000 via Groups.Io <petergharrison@...> wrote:
Eagle 9.x free edition limits board size to 80 square cms - i.e 10cm by 8cm. Not unfortunately 80cm x 80cm!!

Board outlines I mill by making the outline larger than required by 1/2 the end mill diameter.  Replicate the milling gcode for each complete pass, increasing the Z parameter by a small amount (say 0.25mm) for each pass up to the board thickness or just beyond. This will just free the board and barely mark the sacrificial base board.


mill layer #mill

R Blackman
 

Hello to group
I have been following the  milling layer thread and I would like some help.
I have never been able to use the milling layer.
I place text on my pcb using milling layer 46
I believe I check the correct boxes in pcb-gcode,
but the text never shows up in the cad machine (KCam or UGSPlatform) display.
 
please- what  pcb-gcode boxes should be checked for milling text?
 
Many thanks
 
Richard B

Re: mill layer #mill

Art Eckstein
 

Richard,
Make sure you have the text set "Vector" and not "rastor"

This may be your problem

Country

At 8/8/2018 06:12 PM, R Blackman wrote:
Hello to group
I have been following the milling layer thread and I would like some help.
I have never been able to use the milling layer.
I place text on my pcb using milling layer 46
I believe I check the correct boxes in pcb-gcode,
but the text never shows up in the cad machine (KCam or UGSPlatform) display.

please- what pcb-gcode boxes should be checked for milling text?

Many thanks

Richard B

Re: mill layer #mill

R Blackman
 

Thank you for the reply, unfortunately, changing to vector did not solve the problem.
I should also mention that when I press "accept and make my board", the Windows 10 "wait" circle lasts a long time
and then Eagle immediately shuts down. The .tap file is saved in the project file though.
When I open the .tap file in WordPad, it is empty.

/Richard B

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Eckstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:23 PM
To: pcbgcode@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pcbgcode] mill layer #mill

Richard,
Make sure you have the text set "Vector" and not "rastor"

This may be your problem

Country

At 8/8/2018 06:12 PM, R Blackman wrote:
Hello to group
I have been following the milling layer thread and I would like some help.
I have never been able to use the milling layer.
I place text on my pcb using milling layer 46
I believe I check the correct boxes in pcb-gcode,
but the text never shows up in the cad machine (KCam or UGSPlatform) display.

please- what pcb-gcode boxes should be checked for milling text?

Many thanks

Richard B

Re: mill layer #mill

Art Eckstein
 

Richard,
Sorry I can't help you further as I don't use Win10 and I am still on Ver 6.x of Eagle.

Country

At 8/8/2018 07:42 PM, R Blackman wrote:
Thank you for the reply, unfortunately, changing to vector did not solve the problem.
I should also mention that when I press "accept and make my board", the Windows 10 "wait" circle lasts a long time
and then Eagle immediately shuts down. The .tap file is saved in the project file though.
When I open the .tap file in WordPad, it is empty.

/Richard B

-----Original Message----- From: Art Eckstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:23 PM
To: pcbgcode@groups.io
Subject: Re: [pcbgcode] mill layer #mill

Richard,
Make sure you have the text set "Vector" and not "rastor"

This may be your problem

Country

At 8/8/2018 06:12 PM, R Blackman wrote:
Hello to group
I have been following the milling layer thread and I would like some help.
I have never been able to use the milling layer.
I place text on my pcb using milling layer 46
I believe I check the correct boxes in pcb-gcode,
but the text never shows up in the cad machine (KCam or UGSPlatform) display.

please- what pcb-gcode boxes should be checked for milling text?

Many thanks

Richard B



getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

hi everyone 
i'm new at both pcb design and getting print it out. I have a mini cnc plotter to use for printing the layout of pcb design. I have seen videos on youtube guys doing the printing job. But my question is "isnt there any way to get .gcode (not .nc code) from Eagle ? ". As far as i see they all make it via InkSpace and some other programs and make it for milling CNCs.
I'm stuck here.
Glad you being helped and Thanks :)

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

If I am reading your statement correctly, the file your outputting is fine.
Gcode files are a clear text file and can have any extension.  If your using the pcb-gcode.ulp to generate the code, there is an entry to tell it what extension you want for your file output. You can make it anything you want.  For the existing files, just rename them to your desired extension.

Country Bubba


At 8/9/2018 03:11 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:
hi everyone
i'm new at both pcb design and getting print it out. I have a mini cnc plotter to use for printing the layout of pcb design. I have seen videos on youtube guys doing the printing job. But my question is "isnt there any way to get .gcode (not .nc code) from Eagle ? ". As far as i see they all make it via InkSpace and some other programs and make it for milling CNCs.
I'm stuck here.
Glad you being helped and Thanks

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Vaughn
 

Hi still new also and had gthe same problem.

Was given this: its called PCB-GCODE and downloadable from here:


Its another programme that runs in Eagle, once you have made and tested your schematic. This then converts the schematic to gcode and gives a number of files that run in most cnc machines.

I and a few friends use the *,tap files for our machines.

Hope this helps Vaughn



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Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

thanks
But even if I did the change of file extension i get some printing errors, something irrelevant. Printing crashes at somewhere and I cannot fix it(for example it says unknown code or the plotter gets crazy)
what should i do ? 
and what about .hpgl and .plt files ? 

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ? 
Thanks

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Vaughn
 

I use a mill but if you set pcbgcode up so the depth of cut is 0, then instead of trying to cut it should just touch paper and draw.

As I say very ne to this too so just thinking out laud.

Im sure others will have a better solution

Vaughn

On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 12:59, <ticaret.etudu@...> wrote:
I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ? 
Thanks



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M6HJZ 73 to all

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Vaughn
 

I use a mill but if you set pcbgcode up so the depth of cut is 0, then instead of trying to cut it should just touch paper and draw.
 
As I say very ne to this too so just thinking out laud.
 
Im sure others will have a better solution
 
Vaughn

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

The pcb-gcode ulp addin to Eagle is designed to generate gcodes to "etch" the trace outlines on a milling machine or router that has a controller using gcodes. As noted in another message, Mach is a popular controller that is used by many. There are several others that will also work.
It (pcb-gcode) is NOT designed to be used on a pen plotter. What you are describing is a "printing" operation and you will need to configure your system with the proper driver files (configuration) so it will plot the desired output. The output files you describe (.plt or .hpgl) are files formatted for a plotter. It has been many years since I have used either of those formats and to be honest have forgotten how to get them to plot:{(


HTH
Country

At 8/9/2018 07:10 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:
I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ?
Thanks

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 
Edited

thanks 
so you mean that in a way(a forbidden way), we can print our pcb design on a paper from .hpgl and .ptl files by a CNC plotter(pen holding CNC) ?

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

Yes, sure can and this is the way it is/was done to make transparencies for making resist patterns on the pcb or to do the toner transfer method of laying down resist on the raw pcb.

Nothing forbidden about it. Just a different way to get to the end result.

Country

At 8/9/2018 09:12 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
thanks
so you mean that in a way(a forbidden way), we can print our pcb design on a paper from .hpgl and .ptl files by a CNC plotter(pen holding CNC) ?

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

is it the way the ironing and acide get place at pcb ? 
should I use the .hpgl file(the gcode file) for printing directly for plotter pcb printing? (by processing gcode sender, other ones)
thanks 

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

Yes, toner transfer is done using an iron and an acid etching solution.

Exactly what is the make and model of the machine that your trying to plot to??  Then maybe we can arrive at a good solution.

Country


At 8/9/2018 09:38 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:
is it the way the ironing and acide get place at pcb ?
should I use the .hpgl file(the gcode file) for printing directly for plotter pcb printing? (by processing gcode sender, other ones)
thanks