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no holes #drill

Vaughn
 

OK, Got my first board made and all ok. Still need to iron out a few bits but after running the etch file I got my tracks. Thanks to all who offered help with other posts

After the first run I had my tracks.
The cutter went to the home/start position we comleted, so I tried to run the drill file. This did not work
Well I chickened out as the file, when open, did not show anything on the screen, in fact no other files other than the etch file show any picture. they only had the code.

Is this correct for these files?

If I run this again and after the etch file run the drill file will I get the holes even if no picture shown?

Thanks Vaughn

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

i found this--
gcode&trade; Gcode Generation Utility</b><br>"
             " Version 3.6.0.4<p>"

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:26 PM, John Johnson <john@...> wrote:
You might have an old version of pcbgcode before it supported the milling layer. The version on this group should be the latest. 

Regards,
John


On Aug 9, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:

I should add this-- i have checked 'top' outlines and 'top' drills..
however, i have nothing on top or bottom layers, so beats me how that would work with the mill layer 46

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:
yes to both.. i checked.. 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Art Eckstein <art.eckstein@...> wrote:
Jack,
Did you tell the ulp to generate "Outline" files.  That is where the milling comes in.  And just to be sure, when you said you put "lines" on layer 46, the was done using "wire"?

Country Bubba


At 8/9/2018 01:00 PM, Jack Kennedy wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky







Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

John Johnson
 

You might have an old version of pcbgcode before it supported the milling layer. The version on this group should be the latest. 

Regards,
John


On Aug 9, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:

I should add this-- i have checked 'top' outlines and 'top' drills..
however, i have nothing on top or bottom layers, so beats me how that would work with the mill layer 46

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:
yes to both.. i checked.. 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Art Eckstein <art.eckstein@...> wrote:
Jack,
Did you tell the ulp to generate "Outline" files.  That is where the milling comes in.  And just to be sure, when you said you put "lines" on layer 46, the was done using "wire"?

Country Bubba


At 8/9/2018 01:00 PM, Jack Kennedy wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky






Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

I should add this-- i have checked 'top' outlines and 'top' drills..
however, i have nothing on top or bottom layers, so beats me how that would work with the mill layer 46

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:
yes to both.. i checked.. 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Art Eckstein <art.eckstein@...> wrote:
Jack,
Did you tell the ulp to generate "Outline" files.  That is where the milling comes in.  And just to be sure, when you said you put "lines" on layer 46, the was done using "wire"?

Country Bubba


At 8/9/2018 01:00 PM, Jack Kennedy wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky






Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

yes to both.. i checked.. 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Art Eckstein <art.eckstein@...> wrote:
Jack,
Did you tell the ulp to generate "Outline" files.  That is where the milling comes in.  And just to be sure, when you said you put "lines" on layer 46, the was done using "wire"?

Country Bubba


At 8/9/2018 01:00 PM, Jack Kennedy wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky





Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Art Eckstein
 

Jack,
Did you tell the ulp to generate "Outline" files. That is where the milling comes in. And just to be sure, when you said you put "lines" on layer 46, the was done using "wire"?

Country Bubba

At 8/9/2018 01:00 PM, Jack Kennedy wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

I was able to export a DXF file.. then I used dxf2gcode to generate gcode..
Id like to avoid using dxf2gcode, but its nice to see the mill working..

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Vaughn Lucock <vlkteach@...> wrote:
free version of eagle only allows a few layers, may be thats the problem.

also need to set tracks as nets, i think, and width of track or nothing works.

I tried to take short cuts but in the end followed the help files and then moved from there

hope this helps some Vaughn


Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Vaughn
 

free version of eagle only allows a few layers, may be thats the problem.

also need to set tracks as nets, i think, and width of track or nothing works.

I tried to take short cuts but in the end followed the help files and then moved from there

hope this helps some Vaughn

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

I dont see anywhere where pcbgcode can select mill layer 46.. both top and bottom copper layers are selectable, and apparently the board dimension layer, but no mill layer to checkbox..
I noticed the viewer comes up empty (solid black) which technically is correct, as I have no copper top or bottom.. I am simply trying to mill a piece of plexiglass per the mill layer..
the viewer comes up with top layer by default apparently..no selection there for layer46

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Vaughn Lucock <vlkteach@...> wrote:
Files given look just like I kept getting til I downgraded to eagle-pcb V7.7

Hope you can get an answer so I too can upgrade.

Bes of luck Vaughn


Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Vaughn
 

Files given look just like I kept getting til I downgraded to eagle-pcb V7.7

Hope you can get an answer so I too can upgrade.

Bes of luck Vaughn

Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

when pcbgcode.ulp opens up on eagle 9.1.0, its size top-to-bottom is larger than my display, cutting off the buttons at the bottom.. very problematic.. by mousing the right edge i can get it to slightly resize a little smaller and then i can access the accept/make board controls.. is there a place where i can edit a file to work around this??
thanks in advance for any help..

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Jack Kennedy <watchman911@...> wrote:
I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky


Re: cutting plexiglass #mill

Jack Kennedy
 

I drew lines on layer 46 hoping pcbgcode.ulp would see them and generate Gcode, but no joy..
pcbgcode generated 2 files (attached)..
i have a laseraxe mini mill with the latest grbl --dont remember the version i can find out if needed..
no worky worky

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

Yes, toner transfer is done using an iron and an acid etching solution.

Exactly what is the make and model of the machine that your trying to plot to??  Then maybe we can arrive at a good solution.

Country


At 8/9/2018 09:38 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:
is it the way the ironing and acide get place at pcb ?
should I use the .hpgl file(the gcode file) for printing directly for plotter pcb printing? (by processing gcode sender, other ones)
thanks 

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

is it the way the ironing and acide get place at pcb ? 
should I use the .hpgl file(the gcode file) for printing directly for plotter pcb printing? (by processing gcode sender, other ones)
thanks 

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

Yes, sure can and this is the way it is/was done to make transparencies for making resist patterns on the pcb or to do the toner transfer method of laying down resist on the raw pcb.

Nothing forbidden about it. Just a different way to get to the end result.

Country

At 8/9/2018 09:12 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
thanks
so you mean that in a way(a forbidden way), we can print our pcb design on a paper from .hpgl and .ptl files by a CNC plotter(pen holding CNC) ?

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 
Edited

thanks 
so you mean that in a way(a forbidden way), we can print our pcb design on a paper from .hpgl and .ptl files by a CNC plotter(pen holding CNC) ?

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Art Eckstein
 

The pcb-gcode ulp addin to Eagle is designed to generate gcodes to "etch" the trace outlines on a milling machine or router that has a controller using gcodes. As noted in another message, Mach is a popular controller that is used by many. There are several others that will also work.
It (pcb-gcode) is NOT designed to be used on a pen plotter. What you are describing is a "printing" operation and you will need to configure your system with the proper driver files (configuration) so it will plot the desired output. The output files you describe (.plt or .hpgl) are files formatted for a plotter. It has been many years since I have used either of those formats and to be honest have forgotten how to get them to plot:{(


HTH
Country

At 8/9/2018 07:10 AM, ticaret.etudu@... wrote:
I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ?
Thanks

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Vaughn
 

I use a mill but if you set pcbgcode up so the depth of cut is 0, then instead of trying to cut it should just touch paper and draw.
 
As I say very ne to this too so just thinking out laud.
 
Im sure others will have a better solution
 
Vaughn

Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

Vaughn
 

I use a mill but if you set pcbgcode up so the depth of cut is 0, then instead of trying to cut it should just touch paper and draw.

As I say very ne to this too so just thinking out laud.

Im sure others will have a better solution

Vaughn

On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 12:59, <ticaret.etudu@...> wrote:
I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ? 
Thanks



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Re: getting ".gcode" from eagle to cnc plotter #eagle #gcode #pcbgcode

ticaret.etudu@...
 

I'm asking for just being clear about it. I'm using ink CNC plotter(pen holding machine). You mean kind of machine like mine or the milling one ? 
Thanks