Re: Helical milling drill holes with endmill #pcbgcode #drill #helical

Art Eckstein

Now if only real world tests go as smoothly as the simulation show!
Like the video and this will be a great addition to the software.

Also, please include me for alpha testing.

Thanks in advance.


On 8/12/2022 5:10 PM, John Johnson wrote:

Here's a video of a simulation I ran on a test board.

The rack file looks like this. E means end mill, T is a standard drill.
step is the amount to step over in x,y, and step_z is the amount to step down in z.

This strategy mills from the center out at increasing depths.

Helical at the max diameter is a possibility too - for another day.

#tool    drill_size    minimum    maximum    length    step    step_z
T01    0.015in    0.001in    0.031in    1.5in
T02    0.032in    0.032in    0.035in    1.5in
E03    0.032in    0.035in    0.124in    1.5in    0.010in    0.015in
E04    0.125in    0.125in    0.375in    1.5in    0.030in    0.030in

If you're interested in alpha testing, let me know. Alpha software is not for circulation to others.

Let me know what you think of the video.


On 8/10/22 2:45 PM, John Johnson wrote:

Hello Folks,

I've been thinking about and working on the long-requested (ca. 2018) feature that would let one mill holes of different diameters using an endmill.

I would like your input.

  • Is this useful?
  • Do let me know if you have suggestions on gcode. My knowledge on this is limited. I would like to support as many controllers as possible (TurboCNC (happy to see TCNC is still around!), Mach3, grbl, LinuxCNC, etc.), so make it as generic as possible.
    • I'm thinking G03 (counter clockwise) for all holes.
    • From what I've read, using IJ is preferable over R, and I recall from my experience R arcs can get whacky.
    • I'm thinking 4x 90° arcs to make a circle. Again, to accommodate as many controllers as possible.
  • I'm concerned about holes that are larger than 2x the tool diameter.
    • For example, in the image attached, the tool is 0.015"/0.381mm and the holes are 0.020"/0.508mm, 0.035"/0.889mm, and 0.050"/1.27mm. There is a 0.005"/0.127mm post in the center hole, and 0.020"/0.508mm on the right-hand hole.
      • The debris left in the center (see attached pics), which could potentially become ensnared by and break the tool.
    • One way to eliminate this is as two (or more) holes, a smaller one to full depth, then larger ones.
      • This would probably need "pecking."
    • I could also use a sort-of center-out strategy, where the cutter starts in the center, then mills at increasingly larger diameters until the desired size is reached. Rather than the helical path shown, I would probably just plunge some amount in the center, then start milling the concentric circles at that depth out to the max diameter, plunge at the center a bit deeper, rinse and repeat.
  • How do we control chip load?
    • Step down for Z axis as an absolute amount (e.g. 0.25mm/0.010") per pass?
      • Sounds reasonable.
    • What about increasing the diameter if concentric holes or multiple passes are used?
      • Could be a fixed maximum, I suppose, or some percentage of the tool diameter.
  • Code that generated the images is attached.
    • Let me know what you think about it too. I just generated it in Excel for the time being.

Would appreciate your input and expertise!




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