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Re: Fern Ridge status?

Case Turner
 

The Corp has closed all of their reservoirs in Oregon and Washington to recreational uses to fall in line with the COVID order to stay home. Fern ridge is a Corp. reservoir so boat ramps are not open to the public at this time. 



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On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:14 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

There's about 3' 8" off water at the toe of the Orchard Point ramp. The launch ramp wasn't blocked off when I was out there a few days ago. There's a foot less water at the Richardson ramp, but the park gate was closed a few days ago:

https://tinyurl.com/FRDepths

You can check up on the lake level trend here:

https://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/nwp/teacup/willamette/frn.pdf

The basin-wide interactive map will tell you haw far a reservoir is below it's "curve" if you hover over the little orange dam. Click on the dam and you'll get a chart for the res. like the one above:

https://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/nwp/teacup/willamette/

I think I _might_ be able to launch Tuffy at Orchard Point now, if she were ready. <g> There's enough water in my slip at Richardson to float her...

I re-upped at the Richardson marina, but they haven't sent me the new moorage parking passes yet...

On 4/9/2020 11:40 AM, Dan A wrote:
Has anyone been to Fern Ridge in the past week and launched a boat?  All I have found on their website is the announcement, "Due to low water levels, moorage and marinas will not open before May 1" but it doesn't say anything about whether the ramps might be open or not.
I understand the water level is about 5 feet below a full pond, but I should still be able to launch my Potter 15 without any problems if access to the ramp is available.
I noticed my annual moorage pass expires at the end of April, so I wouldn't need to purchase a parking pass just yet.

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San Juan Islands Closed

 

"The health and safety of our island communities is our highest priority. In light of concerns about the COVID-19 virus, the San Juan Islands Visitors Bureau is requesting visitors postpone all travel to the San Juans, including day trips, to limit the potential spread of the virus.

"his advisory includes boaters who wish to anchor out or pick up a mooring buoy. It also includes people whose primary home is somewhere other than the San Juan Islands. Please help us manage the potential spread of the virus, and prevent overloading our limited health care and emergency care infrastructure by staying at your primary residence."

https://www.visitsanjuans.com/travel-advisory

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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Thanks, Case. I ordered a similar one (actually two -- one for Tuffy as well) and _someday_ we'll find out how well it will charge my devices. Amazon doesn't think USB chargers for a boat are a priority shipping item. ;o)

BTW, Andrew is on the front lines, working in an Amazon warehouse. I hope he's managing to keep safe. Take care of yourself, Andrew!

On 4/9/2020 6:22 AM, Case wrote:
John I’ve charged my iPad mini and
My iPhone. Braxton has charged his school
tablet. I think it’s some sort of google chrome book.
Usually I just use the other ports and they charge fairly rapidly too.
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Re: Fern Ridge status?

 

There's about 3' 8" off water at the toe of the Orchard Point ramp. The launch ramp wasn't blocked off when I was out there a few days ago. There's a foot less water at the Richardson ramp, but the park gate was closed a few days ago:

https://tinyurl.com/FRDepths

You can check up on the lake level trend here:

https://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/nwp/teacup/willamette/frn.pdf

The basin-wide interactive map will tell you haw far a reservoir is below it's "curve" if you hover over the little orange dam. Click on the dam and you'll get a chart for the res. like the one above:

https://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/nwp/teacup/willamette/

I think I _might_ be able to launch Tuffy at Orchard Point now, if she were ready. <g> There's enough water in my slip at Richardson to float her...

I re-upped at the Richardson marina, but they haven't sent me the new moorage parking passes yet...

On 4/9/2020 11:40 AM, Dan A wrote:
Has anyone been to Fern Ridge in the past week and launched a boat?  All I have found on their website is the announcement, "Due to low water levels, moorage and marinas will not open before May 1" but it doesn't say anything about whether the ramps might be open or not.
I understand the water level is about 5 feet below a full pond, but I should still be able to launch my Potter 15 without any problems if access to the ramp is available.
I noticed my annual moorage pass expires at the end of April, so I wouldn't need to purchase a parking pass just yet.
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Fern Ridge status?

Dan Arbogast
 

Has anyone been to Fern Ridge in the past week and launched a boat?  All I have found on their website is the announcement, "Due to low water levels, moorage and marinas will not open before May 1" but it doesn't say anything about whether the ramps might be open or not.

I understand the water level is about 5 feet below a full pond, but I should still be able to launch my Potter 15 without any problems if access to the ramp is available.

I noticed my annual moorage pass expires at the end of April, so I wouldn't need to purchase a parking pass just yet.

Thanks for any info you might have.

Dan Arbogast
Corvallis, OR


Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

John I’ve charged my iPad mini and
My iPhone. Braxton has charged his school
tablet. I think it’s some sort of google chrome book.

Usually I just use the other ports and they charge fairly rapidly too.

Case

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On Apr 9, 2020, at 1:02 AM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Thanks, Case. Please pardon my poor reading comprehension. I guess that's why my search for a Cllena panel with two USB chargers was in vain. <g>

What brand devices have you successfully fast charged with the Cllena fast charger socket? I've got a Samsung...

I already ordered the other one I found. If it doesn't work, they say "free returns". <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B07ZRQQFTF/themotherofal-20

On 4/8/2020 6:34 PM, Case wrote:
That is correct. If you’d read the original
Post, I replaced the cigarette socket with the USB port that had the quick charger.
Here is the link
Cllena Dual USB Charger Socket... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVMDJRP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

The charger manufacturers are getting it figured out. The Anker plug-into-a-cigar-lighter one I've been using works fine with my devices, and claims to be compatible with a bunch of others, "except for the iPod nano, iPod Classic, iPod Shuffle, HP TouchPad and Asus tablets... Qualcomm Quick Charge not supported". So there's still a ways to go... Probably a moving target. <sigh>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

I'm gonna try the hardwired quick charger I found and see what happens. If it works, it'll eliminate one possible troublesome connection, and free up a cigar lighter socket. <g>

On 4/8/2020 7:38 PM, john a wrote:
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For "fast charging" you will most likely need a USB-C device and look carefully for compatibility issues with your tablet.  There is significant variation in how a device implements fast charging.  To really work well the charger has to have some smarts that enable it to communicate and work with the charging components in the device/tablet. For instance, while your tablet may have a USB connection for charging, and USB power is specified at 5 volts, to push a lot of power in  (power being Volts x Amps)  you need to raise the voltage to the device being charged, and the device has to have the controls inside to handle the power conversion, and contingent on the device agreeing to that.  Thus the compatibility issues.
It started out good, but USB is no longer the UniversalSearialBus that it started out as.  Manufacturers are lousy at agreeing to "standards" and power conversion is not an area where a standard is easy.
I have not found any that match the above that are wire in type. Probably are somewhere though.
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Thanks, Case. Please pardon my poor reading comprehension. I guess that's why my search for a Cllena panel with two USB chargers was in vain. <g>

What brand devices have you successfully fast charged with the Cllena fast charger socket? I've got a Samsung...

I already ordered the other one I found. If it doesn't work, they say "free returns". <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B07ZRQQFTF/themotherofal-20

On 4/8/2020 6:34 PM, Case wrote:
That is correct. If you’d read the original
Post, I replaced the cigarette socket with the USB port that had the quick charger.
Here is the link
Cllena Dual USB Charger Socket... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVMDJRP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Got another Project idea

Electri-Cal
 

Does anybody have a non running, or (even better ) running but unused smaller size motorcycle they would part with ??  Yeah, I have my Majesty, but thinking I'd like to build one out or just work on one for grins.  Any size I might see fit to ride someday would work.  Might do a trade for boat stuff, or cash, whatever works for both.  Gimme an e mail here, or phone from the coot member list, and we can talk about this on my real mail link.

Thanks, Coots ----   Cal Drake   


Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

johnacord
 

John, the one I use and referenced is just a simple power source, and thought you were just looking for simple wire in type, with more power available.  While it should put out enough power to keep most devices charged,  it is not anything like a "fast charge" device.  It keeps our devices charged while using them if they are either near full charge or not doing tasks that draw a lot of power like Navigation graphics and GPS.  Having the most archaic USB connection it is severely limited regarding power. 

For "fast charging" you will most likely need a USB-C device and look carefully for compatibility issues with your tablet.  There is significant variation in how a device implements fast charging.  To really work well the charger has to have some smarts that enable it to communicate and work with the charging components in the device/tablet.  For instance, while your tablet may have a USB connection for charging, and USB power is specified at 5 volts, to push a lot of power in  (power being Volts x Amps)  you need to raise the voltage to the device being charged, and the device has to have the controls inside to handle the power conversion, and contingent on the device agreeing to that.  Thus the compatibility issues. 

It started out good, but USB is no longer the UniversalSearialBus that it started out as.  Manufacturers are lousy at agreeing to "standards" and power conversion is not an area where a standard is easy.

I have not found any that match the above that are wire in type.  Probably are somewhere though.

John A


Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

That is correct. If you’d read the original
Post, I replaced the cigarette socket with the USB port that had the quick charger.

Here is the link

Cllena Dual USB Charger Socket... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVMDJRP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


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On Apr 8, 2020, at 5:56 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.

What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?

On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.
I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Here's a standalone hardwired quick charge USB port:

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B07ZRQQFTF/themotherofal-20

On 4/8/2020 5:56 PM, John Kohnen wrote:
The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.
What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?
On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.

What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?

On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Shop Towel Face Mask

 

So easy to make even I could do it. <g> I just made one and wore it to the grocery store. Fits good around my face:

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Shop Towel Face Mask
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:47:00 -0700
From: John Weiss

This version is easy enough for guys to make!

Note in the comments that a knowledgeable person tested it, and it works reasonably well - better than a surgical mask!

https://youtu.be/mai-UqdNRi8

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

That steamboat that ran as an excursion boat on the upper Willamette fairly late was Claire, retired in 1952:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/t9qwfye

or

https://www.willametteheritage.org/steamboat-claire-ship-came-fergus-family/

Some NW steamboat pix:

https://steamboats.com/museum/davet-photosnorthwest.html

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

We talked about the upper Willamette steamboats a few years ago:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wnekwqb

or

https://groups.io/g/oregoncoots/message/49504?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,city+of+eugene,20,2,0,15690516

The City of Eugene was built at Eugene and launched in 1898. She was 135' long and drew about a foot! But the last steamboat to get up to Eugene did so in 1905.

The Southern Pacific and Oregon Electric railroads built parallel bridges across the Willamette just above Harrisburg in the 19-oughts. The last one was completed in 1906. The Gummint required that the bridges have draw spans so as not to impede river commerce, but the book Willamette Landings says that the last steamboat to get up past Harrisburg did so in 1906. I wonder if that boat was used in the construction of the bridge... The bridges never opened except to see if they worked. A few years ago one of the historic bridges disappeared, replaced with a modern concrete, non-opening, span. he Union Pacific bought the SP, and the UP never was much interested in history...

On 4/7/2020 12:22 PM, Gerard M wrote:
Last steamboat in my part of the world - the sternwheeler  Bessie which operated on the Rio Grande from Bownsville, Texas to Roma, Texas   last trip in 1902 or 1906 depending on what authority you read.  Why Roma TX/  Because there was a rock ledge across the river and unless the river was in an unusual high stage a powered boat could not get above it.  On rare occasions a boat made it all the way to Laredo, TX...Then had to be lucky with "high water" to be able to get back down river. The coming of the railroad tracks more or less paralleling the river put the steamboats out of business.

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

Thanks, Gerard. It's amazing to see some of the places steamboats used to go in the Old Days! Just getting up the Willamette to Eugene was quite a feat, and the other day I read that a steamboat _once_ made it up the Umpqua River to Roseburg! The normal head of navigation was Scottsburg, at about river mile 28. I don't have a map handy showing how many river miles it is from Scottsburg to Roseburg, but it's plenty, and while there are stretches of calm water, they're separated by rock ledges and rapids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseburg,_Oregon

It was railroads and roads that killed most of the river steamboats. But there are still cargoes that are more economically transported by river. Grain is the main thing keeping the towboats on the Columbia working, and I suppose it's the same on the Mississippi drainage. More cargo should be carried by water, on the rivers and along the coasts, because it's cheaper and burns a lot less fuel, but the infrastructure to handle most cargoes has shifted to subsidized highways, and to lesser extent no longer subsidized railroads...

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/barge-transport-wins-on-fuel-efficiency

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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.



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On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Case Turner <DIRTSAILOR2003@gmail.com> wrote:

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Sent from not here

On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:15 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat. Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket. Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit. 3A seems maybe the usual limit. If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter and make your own :)
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Sent from not here

On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:15 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat. Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket. Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit. 3A seems maybe the usual limit. If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter and make your own :)
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat.  Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket.  Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit.  3A seems maybe the usual limit.  If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter  and make your own :)
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