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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

That is correct. If you’d read the original
Post, I replaced the cigarette socket with the USB port that had the quick charger.

Here is the link

Cllena Dual USB Charger Socket... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVMDJRP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


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On Apr 8, 2020, at 5:56 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.

What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?

On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.
I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Here's a standalone hardwired quick charge USB port:

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B07ZRQQFTF/themotherofal-20

On 4/8/2020 5:56 PM, John Kohnen wrote:
The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.
What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?
On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

The panel in the attachment isn't the one shown on the Amazon page. That one has a USB charger on one side and a cigar lighter socket on the other.

What kind of devices are you charging with the panel?

On 4/8/2020 2:26 PM, Dirt wrote:
Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Shop Towel Face Mask

 

So easy to make even I could do it. <g> I just made one and wore it to the grocery store. Fits good around my face:

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Shop Towel Face Mask
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:47:00 -0700
From: John Weiss

This version is easy enough for guys to make!

Note in the comments that a knowledgeable person tested it, and it works reasonably well - better than a surgical mask!

https://youtu.be/mai-UqdNRi8

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

That steamboat that ran as an excursion boat on the upper Willamette fairly late was Claire, retired in 1952:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/t9qwfye

or

https://www.willametteheritage.org/steamboat-claire-ship-came-fergus-family/

Some NW steamboat pix:

https://steamboats.com/museum/davet-photosnorthwest.html

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

We talked about the upper Willamette steamboats a few years ago:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wnekwqb

or

https://groups.io/g/oregoncoots/message/49504?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,city+of+eugene,20,2,0,15690516

The City of Eugene was built at Eugene and launched in 1898. She was 135' long and drew about a foot! But the last steamboat to get up to Eugene did so in 1905.

The Southern Pacific and Oregon Electric railroads built parallel bridges across the Willamette just above Harrisburg in the 19-oughts. The last one was completed in 1906. The Gummint required that the bridges have draw spans so as not to impede river commerce, but the book Willamette Landings says that the last steamboat to get up past Harrisburg did so in 1906. I wonder if that boat was used in the construction of the bridge... The bridges never opened except to see if they worked. A few years ago one of the historic bridges disappeared, replaced with a modern concrete, non-opening, span. he Union Pacific bought the SP, and the UP never was much interested in history...

On 4/7/2020 12:22 PM, Gerard M wrote:
Last steamboat in my part of the world - the sternwheeler  Bessie which operated on the Rio Grande from Bownsville, Texas to Roma, Texas   last trip in 1902 or 1906 depending on what authority you read.  Why Roma TX/  Because there was a rock ledge across the river and unless the river was in an unusual high stage a powered boat could not get above it.  On rare occasions a boat made it all the way to Laredo, TX...Then had to be lucky with "high water" to be able to get back down river. The coming of the railroad tracks more or less paralleling the river put the steamboats out of business.

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

Thanks, Gerard. It's amazing to see some of the places steamboats used to go in the Old Days! Just getting up the Willamette to Eugene was quite a feat, and the other day I read that a steamboat _once_ made it up the Umpqua River to Roseburg! The normal head of navigation was Scottsburg, at about river mile 28. I don't have a map handy showing how many river miles it is from Scottsburg to Roseburg, but it's plenty, and while there are stretches of calm water, they're separated by rock ledges and rapids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseburg,_Oregon

It was railroads and roads that killed most of the river steamboats. But there are still cargoes that are more economically transported by river. Grain is the main thing keeping the towboats on the Columbia working, and I suppose it's the same on the Mississippi drainage. More cargo should be carried by water, on the rivers and along the coasts, because it's cheaper and burns a lot less fuel, but the infrastructure to handle most cargoes has shifted to subsidized highways, and to lesser extent no longer subsidized railroads...

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/barge-transport-wins-on-fuel-efficiency

On 4/7/2020 12:22 PM, Gerard Mittelstaedt wrote:
Last steamboat in my part of the world - the sternwheeler  Bessie which operated on the Rio Grande from Bownsville, Texas to Roma, Texas   last trip in 1902 or 1906 depending on what authority you read.  Why Roma TX/  Because there was a rock ledge across the river and unless the river was in an unusual high stage a powered boat could not get above it.  On rare occasions a boat made it all the way to Laredo, TX...Then had to be lucky with "high water" to be able to get back down river. The coming of the railroad tracks more or less paralleling the river put the steamboats out of business.
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

Here it is installed. The quick charge on left. And yes it quick charges.



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On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Case Turner <DIRTSAILOR2003@...> wrote:

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:15 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat. Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket. Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit. 3A seems maybe the usual limit. If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter and make your own :)
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

Case Turner
 

I installed this panel in my trailer. I removed the cigarette style port and added another duel usb plug. Has worked great for charging everything we use. Currently the switches run the lights and stereo in the trailer. At some point I’ll add a 12v fan. This company also makes a panel with just the USB ports

Cllena Dual USB Socket Charger... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0785LZQLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Sent from not here

On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:15 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat. Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket. Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit. 3A seems maybe the usual limit. If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter and make your own :)
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Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

 

Thanks, John. Does that USB charger "Fast charge" your Apple devices? The hardwired USB sockets I've already got in Lazy Jack are supposedly 2.1 amps per port, but won't deliver anywhere near that much to my tablets. Bob L explained (IIRC) that the USB standard limits the current delivered to charge a device to something like 1.2 amps. Apple and Samsung and Amazon Kindle, and perhaps other manufacturers, supply chargers that will deliver more current, if asked nicely by the device. Unfortunately, each manufacturer implements this slightly differently. <sigh> Fortunately, some USB charger makers have managed to come up with USB sockets that will fast charge a variety of modern devices. So, it'd be a major undertaking to make a homebrew fast USB charger out of a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter... Bob can explain the whole thing better than I. <g>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00VH84L5E/themotherofal-20

The one you use doesn't mention that on its Amazon page, so I'm reluctant to order one without clarification.

Last year I replaced the USB charging cable for the Samsung tablet in Lazy Jack, and then the slow charger socket managed to keep up with the juice used to run the GPS and navigate. <shrug> (it took me a day or two of the Salish 100 to find where I'd stashed the Anker fast charger <g>). So maybe the cable was the problem, but I'd rather have ample available juice, rather than just barely enough...

When using the tablet to navigate all day with the slow charger and feeble cable, the tablet battery didn't run down all the way, and would charge up again when I turned the tablet off at night.

On 4/8/2020 7:55 AM, john acord wrote:
Here's the one I put in our boat.  Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.
https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ
It's 2.4A per USB socket.  Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit.  3A seems maybe the usual limit.  If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter  and make your own :)
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Health Update - Kay Patteson

David Graybeal
 

Most know that Pat passed a while back. His massive heart attack weakened him enough that he never really got back to 'normal'. 

So we were planning a memorial service for him. Maybe in July, in lieu of the Hagg Lake event. Maybe even sooner, if Kay could manage it.

But now Kay has had her own health crisis. What she thought was a bit of weight gain, and an increase in her COPD was, instead, a tumor. A large cancer. She's now had the surgery to remove it, and that went well. And this week, she had her first dose of chemotherapy. That also went well, as she's not feeling bad at all. She'll be doing another 5 doses, with the last in mid-July. Then recovery, and hopefully we'll see her at a Messabout later in the summer. 

If you have her #, I'm sure she'd enjoy a call.


Re: Choosing an Android Tablet for Navionics

johnacord
 

Here's the one I put in our boat.  Keeps Claire's IPAD Mini and Iphone both charged while in use.

https://www.amazon.com/YonHan-Charger-Socket-Motorcycle-Vehicles/dp/B077F4ZGTZ

It's 2.4A per USB socket.  Seems like you can find them with higher output if you look a bit.  3A seems maybe the usual limit.  If you want more than that than wire in a 12V to 5V dc-dc converter  and make your own :)

John A


Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

Gerard Mittelstaedt
 

Last steamboat in my part of the world - the sternwheeler  Bessie which operated on the Rio Grande from Bownsville, Texas to Roma, Texas   last trip in 1902 or 1906 depending on what authority you read.  Why Roma TX/  Because there was a rock ledge across the river and unless the river was in an unusual high stage a powered boat could not get above it.  On rare occasions a boat made it all the way to Laredo, TX...Then had to be lucky with "high water" to be able to get back down river.  The coming of the railroad tracks more or less paralleling the river put the steamboats out of business.
- Gerard Mittelstaedt
  McAllen, Texas - on the north side of the Rio Grande (on the other side called the Rio Bravo)


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:02 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
For an oral history project Charley interviewed Jesse Ott, an old-timer
who skippered some of the last steamboats on the Coquille and Coos
Rivers, and later ran IC powered milk boats on the Coos River. Coos Bay
outboard motor collector Jerry Alvey, who the Coots visited a few times,
grew up at Alleghany, up the Coos, and rode Jesse Ott's milk boats, and
maybe even worked for him (I don't remember). It wasn't always milk that
was in those cans coming down the river, often some of them contained
something more spirited. <g>

Something I read recently said that Welcome (now behind the Coos Bay
Museum) was the last milk boat on the Coast, running until 1948, but I
think there were milk boats on other coastal rivers running later. I
recall hearing about the boats that delivered mail and took kids to
school on the Siuslaw River, as if that was still going on, in the late
fifties, or even early sixties. When did they put in the bridge to
Duncan Island? There may still be a mail boat on Tenmile Lakes, north of
Coos Bay, but it was an outboard runabout last time I read about it.

The retired Coos/Millicoma River milk boat Eagle, built in 1903, had a
steel beam bolted to her keel and went fishing. After retiring from
that, she sat in the "back lot" at the Charleston boatyard for years.
The Port was hoping someone would step up to save her, but nobody ever
did and they broke Eagle up and birned her several years ago. <sigh>
Eagle was in better condition than Welcome, now sitting with a broken
back behind the Coos Bay Historical Museum...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/r4bzejy

or

https://theworldlink.com/news/local/welcome-back-a-piece-of-coos-history/article_e098169e-2071-5751-a5fb-2bfbe87b6887.html

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

For an oral history project Charley interviewed Jesse Ott, an old-timer who skippered some of the last steamboats on the Coquille and Coos Rivers, and later ran IC powered milk boats on the Coos River. Coos Bay outboard motor collector Jerry Alvey, who the Coots visited a few times, grew up at Alleghany, up the Coos, and rode Jesse Ott's milk boats, and maybe even worked for him (I don't remember). It wasn't always milk that was in those cans coming down the river, often some of them contained something more spirited. <g>

Something I read recently said that Welcome (now behind the Coos Bay Museum) was the last milk boat on the Coast, running until 1948, but I think there were milk boats on other coastal rivers running later. I recall hearing about the boats that delivered mail and took kids to school on the Siuslaw River, as if that was still going on, in the late fifties, or even early sixties. When did they put in the bridge to Duncan Island? There may still be a mail boat on Tenmile Lakes, north of Coos Bay, but it was an outboard runabout last time I read about it.

The retired Coos/Millicoma River milk boat Eagle, built in 1903, had a steel beam bolted to her keel and went fishing. After retiring from that, she sat in the "back lot" at the Charleston boatyard for years. The Port was hoping someone would step up to save her, but nobody ever did and they broke Eagle up and birned her several years ago. <sigh> Eagle was in better condition than Welcome, now sitting with a broken back behind the Coos Bay Historical Museum...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/r4bzejy

or

https://theworldlink.com/news/local/welcome-back-a-piece-of-coos-history/article_e098169e-2071-5751-a5fb-2bfbe87b6887.html

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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

Skagit Chief and Skagit Belle. They were said to be the last working steam paddlewheelers around Puget Sound. But that ignores the W. T. Preston...

Skagit Chief was sold to be used as a floating restaurant in Portland, but sank under tow off Gray's Harbor in October 1956:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/rzgkezd

or

https://saltwaterpeoplehistoricalsociety.blogspot.com/p/a-new-sternwheel-steamboat-2nd-skagit.html

Skagit Belle worked until 1957, then became a floating restaurant in Seattle:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/v7a6he9

or

https://www.goskagit.com/news/local_news/woman-at-the-wheel-anna-grimison-was-first-female-president/article_660cc103-d350-5314-831b-cc1638265a58.html

On 4/5/2020 12:08 PM, I wrote:
...
IIRC, there were a couple of steam sternwheelers working on the Skagit River quite late. Into the '60s?
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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

The steam, sternwheel tugboat Portland worked on the Willamette River into the 1980s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_(1947_tugboat)

The Corps of Engineers snagboat W. T. Preston also worked into the 1980s, around the Salish Sea:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._T._Preston

Both are still with us. The Preston is high and dry in Anacortes, and Portland is afloat in steaming condition in Portland.

Those are exceptional cases. Other than Portland, the last remaining Willamette and Columbia River steamers were retired by the mid '50s. I can remember seeing a few tied up under the steel bridge in Portland while going through on trains when I was a sprout. Then there was only one, Jean, then she was gone too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sternwheeler_Jean

I kinda have memories of seeing steam, paddle towboats working on the Columbia, but I would have been quite young, and those might not be real memories...

I think there was one steamboat that worked as an excursion boat on the upper Willamette (above the falls at Oregon City) well into the '50s. I'll have to see if I can find it...

Speaking of the falls at Oregon City... I was thinking about the bump in the road called Lancaster, that I drive through on my way to the Coot lunches in Albany. It used to be a wild and wooly wheat shipping port, until God got tired of the all the fun, er, sin, going on and sent down a flood to change the course of the river, in the 1860s, but I couldn't remember the year. So I looked it up and read about the great flood of 1862 (actually started in 1861. The Willamette River was running so high at Oregon City that the falls didn't look like falls and, "Flood waters were so high that at Oregon City at the flood's crest on December 5, the steamer St. Clair was able to run the falls, and steamers were able to visit points at some distance from the normal river channel."

So much destruction just to punish those sinners in Lancaster. God musta really been mad! <g>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster,_Oregon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamboats_of_the_Willamette_River

IIRC, there were a couple of steam sternwheelers working on the Skagit River quite late. Into the '60s?

On 4/5/2020 11:34 AM, john a wrote:
John,
Do you know when the last Steamboats ran on the rivers around your part of the world?
Here is a Steamboat that I know was still operating up in British Columbia in 1950, as I rode on it! :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyie_(sternwheeler)
I was with a school group visiting Argenta, B.C., at the north end of Kootney Lake.  They put the group of kids on the Moyie at Kaslo and we rode it up to Argenta stopping once at Johnson's landing to off load supplies and mail.
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Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

Myles Twete
 

The last operating river steamboat in Pacific NW US arguably is the steamer Portland---built in 1947 and operated by the Port of Portland until 1981, it was the last steam-fueled sternwheeler towboat in operation.  She is operated today several times a year by the Oregon Maritime Museum including trips that take member/passengers on local river trips.

http://www.oregonmaritimemuseum.org/

 

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/07/portlands_sternwheeler_a_boat.html

 

 

 

From: oregoncoots@groups.io [mailto:oregoncoots@groups.io] On Behalf Of johnacord
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:35 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

John,

Do you know when the last Steamboats ran on the rivers around your part of the world?

Here is a Steamboat that I know was still operating up in British Columbia in 1950, as I rode on it! :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyie_(sternwheeler)

I was with a school group visiting Argenta, B.C., at the north end of Kootney Lake.  They put the group of kids on the Moyie at Kaslo and we rode it up to Argenta stopping once at Johnson's landing to off load supplies and mail. 

John A


Re: More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

johnacord
 

John,

Do you know when the last Steamboats ran on the rivers around your part of the world?

Here is a Steamboat that I know was still operating up in British Columbia in 1950, as I rode on it! :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyie_(sternwheeler)

I was with a school group visiting Argenta, B.C., at the north end of Kootney Lake.  They put the group of kids on the Moyie at Kaslo and we rode it up to Argenta stopping once at Johnson's landing to off load supplies and mail. 

John A


More Steamboats -- Closer to Home

 

Poking around on Wikipedia looking at steamboats on Oregon rivers I stumbled upon this shot of Echo, up the Coquille way back when. Echo isn't anything unusual, but I like the photo because it shows the sort of work the small steamboats, and later gas and diesel powered "milk boats", on the coastal rivers did, hauling supplies up the river and farm products down, stopping anyplace they needed to, Just a nice picture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AEcho_%28steamboat%29.jpg

The small boats aboard Echo are interesting too. That's clearly a flat-bottom skiff on the hurricane deck behind the Texas (if we can use such grand terms on such a humble craft <g>), but with higher sides than the usual steamboat skiff. It's hard to tell for sure if the boat on the guard is the same sort of skiff, or even flat-bottomed, but the great flare in the sides of the transom hint at the twisted sides of a steamboat skiff. Hmmm... You can see a typical steamboat skiff (or "yawl boat" as Chapelle called them in ASSC) aboard the Willamette River steamboat Beaver (she went up to the Stikine River during the Klondike gold rush!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3ABeaver_%28sternwheeler%29.jpeg

John McCallum swears that McKenzie River drift boats evolved from steamboat skiffs, whatever Roger Fletcher says. <g> I think he's probably right. He designed his own interpretation of a steamboat skiff, and I owned the prototype for a while (he's got it now):

https://flic.kr/p/r5Ljzc

https://flic.kr/p/rjVDcC

http://www.boat-links.com/images/McKenzieSkiff.gif

This photo taken at Scottsburg, on the Umpqua shows a variety of interesting boats that plied that river in the Old Days. The caption says the shot was taken circa 1900, but because of all the "gas boats" I'd guess it was taken a little bit later:

http://photos.salemhistory.net/cdm/singleitem/collection/max/id/2901

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John <@Jkohnen>
A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition. (Jose Bergamin)



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Re: OpenCPN on Linux

johnacord
 

Good note Bob, thanks.

I found that the manual was not correct with respect to tides and currents, and there were some subtle differences in the installation, probably a difference with what is in the repository ppa or the current build.  The Harmonic files were installed in /usr/share instead of /usr/local/share.  Once the location was set correctly OpenCPN found them OK.  But I could not find any way to get the Tide/Current buttons displayed on the toolbar so could not see tides & currents.  I found that if I set ShowMenuBar in Settings User Interface then I could display tides and currents with checking the appropriate in Menu Bar View.  Alternatively you can show tides and currents from the Chart Panel Options.


John A