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Season Opener Messabout Saturday -- CANCELLED

 

It should come as no surprise that the season opener won't be held this year. Although we could do it safely enough, out in the open air and keeping a safe distance, events of any sort are frowned on right now. <sigh>

I heard that Bud has shut down the airport boat ramp near Toledo. Seems extreme, seeing as how you don't need a group to go boating, but probably part of the campaign to keep people from the interior visiting the Coast...

Take care of yourselves, and wash your hands.

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Frightened Boatowner

 

Found over on the Maritime History mailing list:

"List members might like this quote from the online version of a Brooklyn newspaper about the closing of a marina there:

“'It’s a huge loss for Brooklyn,' said a marina tenant, who spoke on the
condition of anonymity out of fear of his wife, who doesn’t know he owns a
boat.


"The article is here:
https://www.brooklynpaper.com/boaters-mourn-the-closure-of-50-year-old-gravesend-marina/

"or here, for a shortened URL (if the one above is split in half by listserv
software):
http://bit.ly/2IaYxUf

"Peter McC"

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Got Masks?

 

A suggestion about how to help out during the current unpleasantness:



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----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Carl Cramer <carl1cramer@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 05:11:50 AM PDT
Subject: This Is Important

Bring Out Your Masks

Attention boat builders, repairers, owners, and tinkerers! If you have any spare,
or even not-so-spare, “N95” designated dust masks in your shop or inventory, find
them today and donate them to your closest medical facility. These disposable
facemasks, which protect against transmission of Covid-19, are currently in very
short supply at almost every hospital.
I passed my last 10-mask sleeve off to a favorite medical practitioner last weekend.
Her gratitude and fear were palpable. Her clinic had one “N95” her size in stock, and
the inevitable wave of coronavirus patients in our city had not even started yet.

The
promised supplies of fresh masks or coronavirus test kits have yet to show up in
hospitals, so these nurses, doctors, and other essential staff are left with precious
few of the most necessary tools they need to confront the pandemic. Admirably and
frighteningly, they will be standing in the breach for the next weeks or months with
or without adequate protection equipment.

I know we have some of what they need on our shop shelves and supply rooms, and
while the sanding dust, stray microballoons, and laminate filaments are threats to
our good health, they pale in comparison to the disaster of widespread infection and
crippling of the medical profession precisely when we need all hands on deck.
Of
course all the builders and contractors in the country won’t have reserves to see
medical staff through the entire pandemic wave, but an influx now could buy
valuable time and keep people protected until production and distribution of new
masks can be stepped up.

If there’s an industry that recognizes a Dunkirk moment when we see one, it is
boatbuilding.
The fact is, there’s no real and immediate relief from any level of government, so
please give what masks you can to the closest medical facility or your favorite
clinician. There are numerous national, state, and city-based efforts online to
coordinate mask donations—just do a search for your area. But at this point it’s
likely most effective to keep it as local as possible. Find out whether your closest
hospital has a designated drop-off area or, as I did, pass them on to someone you
know who is likely to be heading into the dangerous arena of the pandemic
response. Don’t shake their hands, don’t embrace them, but tell them thank you.

My best hopes for us all,

Aaron Porter
Editor




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Re: Lead - vs steel

 

You may think you're joking about depleted uranium from Hanford, Gerard, but it might not be any harder to buy than lead, the way our local scrapyards are handling lead. <g>

One of the local low-rent yacht club members needed a couple hundred pounds of lead for a racing boat he was building, so he ordered it from Amazon! Delivered to his door in USPS flat-rate cartons. Boy was his mailman surprised! <g> Kinda expensive, though...

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=lead+ingot&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Charley says he can get around the local scrapyard's restriction on selling lead only to licensed businesses. The other local scrapyard doesn't handle lead at all. (I didn't ask them about depleted uranium)

On 3/24/2020 12:08 PM, Gerard M wrote:
Steel is heavy - but use enough of it and you may have to
deal with magnetic compass deviation.
Deviation tables anyone ?
Then perhaps you out west could get the Hanford site to
give you some depleted uranium - that stuff is really heavy.  (joke)
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Lead - vs steel

Gerard Mittelstaedt
 

Steel is heavy - but use enough of it and you may have to
deal with magnetic compass deviation. 
Deviation tables anyone ?

Then perhaps you out west could get the Hanford site to
give you some depleted uranium - that stuff is really heavy.  (joke)

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Re: Navionics

Pete Leenhouts
 

Well, that tutorial works for me, John, thank you! 

Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Cc: TSCA Puget Sound <TSCA-Puget@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Navionics

Another mini-tutorial, this one for Dan in Almostcanada. He asked me how
to unclutter the depth display after Mary sold him her tablet and I set
him up on Navionics via long-distance telephone. "I could show you in a
couple of minutes, but it'd take an hour to tell you over the phone, if
that'd work at all to pound it into your Luddite skull." <g>

Lets hope this works. How to adjust depth detail:


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Re: Lead

Pete Leenhouts
 

Maybe steel shot or scrap embedded in a slurry of epoxy or concrete? "Bricks" of scrap steel?  I wonder what might turn up with a note on Craigs List or Next Door?

Pete 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Lead

Worth a shot.

Sorry. But try to find lead shot nowadays. ;o)

I forgot to mention that the biggest metal recycler in Eugene,
Schnitzer's, doesn't handle lead at all!

On 3/20/2020 6:57 PM, Case wrote:
> I think, unless he got rid of all of it, Andrew Linn had a pile of lead. I know he offered it up a bit ago. Maybe he still has iit.
>

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Re: Navionics

Pete Leenhouts
 

Heh - that gives me a cushion, so that I am more aware when I am in shallower water. I was much less concerned in BLUE STAR (40 inch draft) than I am in RIPTIDE (5 foot draft). I am finding it surprisingly challenging to get used to being in close to land in a boat! (grin)

Pete

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous
area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See
attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the
entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those
scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth?
Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)



-----Original Message-----
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Navionics

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous
area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See
attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the
entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those
scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth?
Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
> ...
> Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven
> many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths
> during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
>
> On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are
> not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards,
> anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where
> not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red,
> perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.

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Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Richard Green
 

Forgot to mention, the six foot tongue I have is 3X3.

Rich

On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan <danashore@...> wrote:

Hey, John:  Nothing like a bit of Bondo, a can of Rustoleum Regal Red, and mebbee a replacement for that hunk ‘a red fir shim stock up front—good as new.  And, that one-uva-kind modification to the tire rim is pretty snazzy.  I think I only have ONE trailer in the inventory here at Frankenwerke that still has the original logo.  Makes your S/L almost-new by comparison.  Stay well, y’alls.  Dan.


Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Dan
 

Hey, John:  Nothing like a bit of Bondo, a can of Rustoleum Regal Red, and mebbee a replacement for that hunk ‘a red fir shim stock up front—good as new.  And, that one-uva-kind modification to the tire rim is pretty snazzy.  I think I only have ONE trailer in the inventory here at Frankenwerke that still has the original logo.  Makes your S/L almost-new by comparison.  Stay well, y’alls.  Dan.


Re: Real Computer Program to Use with Navionics

George C
 

I haven't tried it myself, but since it doesn't have detailed Canadian charts, I will have to load them. From my understanding, there are two ways.

You can use the Scanned Maps feature in ExpertGPS to display digital
charts, USGS DRGs, or your own scanned paper maps. There is a procedure to prepare and geo-reference your maps for use within the program.

Also, it allows you to view street maps, topo maps, aerial photos, and nautical charts. It relies on various Internet map servers to provide these mapping services. You can override the default map services in ExpertGPS to access your own preferred map servers.



On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 5:13:02 PM PDT, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


I just got around to looking at ExpertGPS, and the description on the
Web page is impressive. But how do you get NOAA charts into the program?

On 3/17/2020 12:01 PM, George C wrote:
> John,
>
> I have been using ExpertGPS on my PC to look at charts, create trip
> plans, create waypoints and routes to be uploaded to my Garmin, and then
> download the tracks from the Garmin to the software. I has detailed US
> Nautical charts built in and you can load your own charts.
> Unfortunately, it only has a 30day free trial period then you have to
> pay $75. It seems to be a one man operation, but the owner has been good
> at answering my questions.
>
> ExpertGPS - GPS Mapping Software for Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance, Eagle
> GPS
https://www.expertgps.com/

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Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Richard Green
 

I don’t want the trailer but I have a six foot galvanized tongue leftover from a prior boat trailer. I want to get rid of it. It is in very good condition, I replaced it with an eight foot tongue.

Happy to throw it into the mix should someone want it for a trailer with a rotted out tongue.

Rich in McMinnville

On Mar 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

I've been meaning to work harder to get rid of the old Shoreland'r boat trailer in my front yard. I waited too long. <sigh> Apparently some roving, off-the-leash, trailer at large seduced my poor little Shoreland'r, and as a result I came home yesterday to find she'd had a couple of offspring. One day these little tikes will grow up to be boat trailers themselves -- unless the father was a utility or travel trailer, then who knows what kind of mutts they'll turn out to be. <g>

Anyway. I've gotta get rid of the trailer before something like this happens again. The trailer is free, please come and get it. But I'd appreciate it if you gave me a little something for the slightly used tires.

The tongue is rotted out, but I think the rest of the trailer is alright. I used to rinse it by dunking it in the lake, but the end of the tongue wouldn't get dunked. <sigh> A Harbor Freight tongue is spliced in now to make the trailer safe enough to move. The LED lights worked last time I used the thing. Good fenders. I think I've got a winch that I'll throw in that only needs a pawl spring. You gotta take the babies too. <g>

Come get it in Eugene. If it isn't gone soon it's going to the scrapyard.

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I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

 

I've been meaning to work harder to get rid of the old Shoreland'r boat trailer in my front yard. I waited too long. <sigh> Apparently some roving, off-the-leash, trailer at large seduced my poor little Shoreland'r, and as a result I came home yesterday to find she'd had a couple of offspring. One day these little tikes will grow up to be boat trailers themselves -- unless the father was a utility or travel trailer, then who knows what kind of mutts they'll turn out to be. <g>

Anyway. I've gotta get rid of the trailer before something like this happens again. The trailer is free, please come and get it. But I'd appreciate it if you gave me a little something for the slightly used tires.

The tongue is rotted out, but I think the rest of the trailer is alright. I used to rinse it by dunking it in the lake, but the end of the tongue wouldn't get dunked. <sigh> A Harbor Freight tongue is spliced in now to make the trailer safe enough to move. The LED lights worked last time I used the thing. Good fenders. I think I've got a winch that I'll throw in that only needs a pawl spring. You gotta take the babies too. <g>

Come get it in Eugene. If it isn't gone soon it's going to the scrapyard.

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Real Computer Program to Use with Navionics

 

I just got around to looking at ExpertGPS, and the description on the Web page is impressive. But how do you get NOAA charts into the program?

On 3/17/2020 12:01 PM, George C wrote:
John,
I have been using ExpertGPS on my PC to look at charts, create trip plans, create waypoints and routes to be uploaded to my Garmin, and then download the tracks from the Garmin to the software. I has detailed US Nautical charts built in and you can load your own charts. Unfortunately, it only has a 30day free trial period then you have to pay $75. It seems to be a one man operation, but the owner has been good at answering my questions.
ExpertGPS - GPS Mapping Software for Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance, Eagle GPS
https://www.expertgps.com/

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Re: Thursday lunch

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Thanks John.
The problem is I think we’re all a bit in the dark still on how quickly it will spread with the measures we’ve put in place and whether we’re being cautious enough or not only time will tell. Whether there is a significant airborne component or not is unfortunately hard to know at this stage.
-Jove

On Mar 21, 2020, at 4:56 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Good info, Jove. Thanks for sharing it. It's scary that the coronavirus survives so well in the air. For years I'd been told that, even though getting sneezed or coughed on is the surest way to catch them, bugs like the flu and colds are mostly passed on through secondary contact -- touching a surface infested with the virus and then picking your nose or rubbing your eye. Hence the emphasis on washing your hands (works for another nasty too, norovirus). The new coronavirus is a relative of some of the viruses that cause the common cold, so maybe we need to change the way we try to avoid colds too.

At any rate, keep washing your hands, and take care of yourselves.

On 3/19/2020 1:28 PM, Jove wrote:
There is increasing evidence of an airborne component so it's wise to be out in open air, or have doors open if you have people over. And no-one with a cough should attend.
my 2c. Have fun. Boats are a heart warming and beautiful distraction which is probably good for your health.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces?fbclid=IwAR0ZxxJDmAvWWrxye6-QJu_X4y0mfquFk9imtG45w0pxZ05GjoDkYFSDC10

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Re: Navionics

 

Another mini-tutorial, this one for Dan in Almostcanada. He asked me how to unclutter the depth display after Mary sold him her tablet and I set him up on Navionics via long-distance telephone. "I could show you in a couple of minutes, but it'd take an hour to tell you over the phone, if that'd work at all to pound it into your Luddite skull." <g>

Lets hope this works. How to adjust depth detail:

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthContours.pdf

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Navionics

 

Forgot to CC this...

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth? Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
...
Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards, anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red, perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.
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Re: Navionics

 

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth? Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
...
Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards, anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red, perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.
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Re: Thursday lunch

 

Good info, Jove. Thanks for sharing it. It's scary that the coronavirus survives so well in the air. For years I'd been told that, even though getting sneezed or coughed on is the surest way to catch them, bugs like the flu and colds are mostly passed on through secondary contact --
touching a surface infested with the virus and then picking your nose or rubbing your eye. Hence the emphasis on washing your hands (works for another nasty too, norovirus). The new coronavirus is a relative of some of the viruses that cause the common cold, so maybe we need to change the way we try to avoid colds too.

At any rate, keep washing your hands, and take care of yourselves.

On 3/19/2020 1:28 PM, Jove wrote:
There is increasing evidence of an airborne component so it's wise to be out in open air, or have doors open if you have people over. And no-one with a cough should attend.
my 2c. Have fun. Boats are a heart warming and beautiful distraction which is probably good for your health.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces?fbclid=IwAR0ZxxJDmAvWWrxye6-QJu_X4y0mfquFk9imtG45w0pxZ05GjoDkYFSDC10

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Re: Lead

 

Worth a shot.

Sorry. But try to find lead shot nowadays. ;o)

I forgot to mention that the biggest metal recycler in Eugene, Schnitzer's, doesn't handle lead at all!

On 3/20/2020 6:57 PM, Case wrote:
I think, unless he got rid of all of it, Andrew Linn had a pile of lead. I know he offered it up a bit ago. Maybe he still has iit.
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