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Re: Yaquina

 

Thanks, Jim. I'll have to pick up a copy next time I'm over there, and the Museum is open. Or maybe we can swap our Yaquina books, if we can ever get together again... <g>

Here are a few photos from On the Yaquina and Big Elk. See attachments. The first is proof that rock did go down the river in barges. <g> "Elk City rock" may mean it came from the old quarry we can see across Big Elk Creek from the park in Elk City.

The second is the Pioneer quarry. Pioneer is up the Yaquina from Elk City, past where river transport is practical, and it's on the same side of the river as the railroad. Or at least the remains of the town are, I suppose the quarry could have been anywhere nearby...

Last is something for the boat nuts. Isn't that a fine looking rowboat!

Alas, the reproduction of the photos in On the Yaquina and Big Elk is terrible. <sigh> But I'll bet they're in the collection in the museum archives.

On 4/27/2020 7:22 PM, Jim C wrote:
I got the book at the museum in Toledo. I have to call my brother inlaw in Newport about the barges. He couldn't figure how the train got to the jetty. Thanks
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Re: Yaquina

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

I got the book at the museum in Toledo. I have to call my brother inlaw in Newport about the barges. He couldn't figure how the train got to the jetty. Thanks
Jim


Voyage of a Summer Sun, Robin Cody

 

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Subject: Voyage of a Summer Sun, Robin Cody
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:04:46 -0700
From: Richard G

I have begun my copy of this book with some anticipation. Forty years ago I sailed on a 32’ ferrocement cutter from Honolulu to Astoria with an old friend on his way back from over six years out. On that trip I was in my early thirties, still young and strong with most of life ahead of me, and had time to ponder. I decided I’d like to do three things before my time was up. One was to finish my degree, which had been forestalled as I earned money, in Psych and a Masters in Counseling. A second was to build a 22’ row boat with a convertible center cockpit to row the canals of Europe, and the third was to build a canoe and canoe the Columbia/Snake from Clarkston ID to Ilwaco.

Well, I got the degree, 1/2 the masters and spent some time working in the field as I went on to discover I had the wrong temperament for the work. I visited Europe taking many boat rides in Amsterdam and Venice where you couldn’t help boating if you tried but not on the canals per se. I also learned that some parts of the system had currents and speed issues. I didn’t row in Europe. I rented a canoe a time or three and decided after canoeing a bit of the Willamette River that I was useless as a canoe paddler much preferring a kayak with foot pedal steering. It is the latter canoe trip that I will now vicariously attempt in the form of this book by Mr. Cody.

Sounds good to me.

Thanks to whomever mentioned it as I’d not heard of the book!


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Re: Yaquina

 

Barges. The quarries were up above Toledo, and some of them were on the opposite side of the river from the railroad, so some rock went all the way downriver by water. Cannon Quarry launch ramp is probably where a dock for a quarry used to be. There was a short railroad up Mill Creek, the creek a bit below Cannon Quarry ramp, to bring rock down to the river from another quarry. I'll bet it was an interesting, jackleg sorta railroad; the sort that'd give an OSHA inspector apoplexy today. <g> But I haven't found any photos of it yet.

Another good book about life up the Yaquina River and Big Elk Creek is:

On the Yaquina and Big Elk, by Evelyn Payne Perry

It's a collection of sketches about life in the early 20th century (and up through filming Sometimes a Great Notion) around Elk City, Salado, Glen, Harlan, Burnt Woods, Eddyville and Chitwood. The author grew up around there, and rode her horse home from college in Corvallis for vacations in the '20s. One thing I noticed from the book was that horses and wagons were used up there long after more civilized places had cars and trucks; because the roads were so bad!

I got On the Yaquina and Big Elk at the museum in Newport. Where did you get As I Remember, by Carol Armington?

On 4/26/2020 7:12 PM, Jim C wrote:
Thank you, now I know where the town was. Another question  has come up; When they ran the railroad to Newport they used it to haul rock to build the jetty. How did the track get past the waterfront to the jetty?
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Re: Yaquina

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

Thank you, now I know where the town was. Another question  has come up; When they ran the railroad to Newport they used it to haul rock to build the jetty. How did the track get past the waterfront to the jetty?


Re: More NW Event Cancellations

Dave
 

Great list of events to look forward to next year! 


More NW Event Cancellations

 

Some more cancellations Up North. This notice was sent out by the Puget Sound TSCA chapter. Be sure to check with event organizers before getting ready to go to any event:

Current Situation as of April 26, 2020

Parks and boat launches are closed until at least May 4th. A Stay-at-Home order remains in effect.

The Small Boat Camp-Cruising Workshop has been cancelled.

The Pocket Yacht Palooza and Palooza Crooza have been cancelled.

The Mystery Bay Annual TSCA Meeting and Messabout has been cancelled.

The Montague Harbor Rendezvous has been cancelled.

The Sucia Small Boat Rendezvous has been cancelled.

The Salish-100 small boat cruise has been cancelled.

The Race to Alaska (R2AK) has been cancelled.

The Seventy48 race has been cancelled.

The Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival has been cancelled.

The Center for Wooden Boats has closed both campuses

For current Oregon Coots TSCA chapter event status, visit their website at http://www.coots.org/mb/


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Re: Yaquina

 

Here's the paper on Yaquina City I mentioned. Apologies to the author for calling him a her in my previous post. ;o)

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/geo422/422_Paper_Sandler.pdf

Somewhere around here I've got a book about the Southern Pacific (and the other railroads it absorbed) in Oregon that has a map of the railroad in Yaquina...

On 4/25/2020 4:52 PM, Jim C wrote:
I just read a book by a lady who grew up in Toledo & she talks about the town of Yaquina being the end of the railroad from the valley. The book was published in 2004 & she claimed the old turntable is gone but there is a house built over the hole the turntable was on & is still there. Any one ever heard of this? My wife thinks the town of Yaquina was where the oyster place is.
As I Remember
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Re: Yaquina

 

As Joe mentioned, Yaquina City was where the Mad Dog Tavern and Sawyer's Landing are today. The Newport city fathers wouldn't pungle up a subsidy for Mr. Hogg to run his railroad into town, so he decided to build his own international seaport city at Yaquina. Passengers and freight came from the valley on the railroad, then crossed the bay on steamers to Newport, Obviously, Mr. Hogg's grand ideas never panned out. It's a very interesting story...

The railroad ran out of Toledo through where the boatyard is and the old bed meets up with the Bay Road after your drive over the hill above the boatyard, the road then follows the railroad bed to Yaquina. When the road was young it crossed the sloughs on the railroad trestles you can still see. They just laid boards on the trestles, with no guardrails or any of that kind of sissy stuff. <g>

If you poke around on the Interweb you'll find a paper written by a college student about Yaquina City. She has some interesting stuff in the paper, but ends it with a photo of that wooden barge moldering away by the Bay Road several miles above Yaquina. The caption reads. "all that's left of Yaquina City"! Nonsense. Yaquina today is actually a pretty hopping place; less of a "ghost town" than Elk City.

On 4/25/2020 4:52 PM, Jim C wrote:
I just read a book by a lady who grew up in Toledo & she talks about the town of Yaquina being the end of the railroad from the valley. The book was published in 2004 & she claimed the old turntable is gone but there is a house built over the hole the turntable was on & is still there. Any one ever heard of this? My wife thinks the town of Yaquina was where the oyster place is.

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Re: Yaquina

Joe Novello
 

The town of Yaquina is further downriver from the oyster plants.  It is right next to Sawyers marina and the Mad Dog Tavern.  

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:52 PM Jhcalbany@... via groups.io <Jhcalbany=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I just read a book by a lady who grew up in Toledo & she talks about the town of Yaquina being the end of the railroad from the valley. The book was published in 2004 & she claimed the old turntable is gone but there is a house built over the hole the turntable was on & is still there. Any one ever heard of this? My wife thinks the town of Yaquina was where the oyster place is.

As I Remember
by Carol Armington

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Yaquina

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

I just read a book by a lady who grew up in Toledo & she talks about the town of Yaquina being the end of the railroad from the valley. The book was published in 2004 & she claimed the old turntable is gone but there is a house built over the hole the turntable was on & is still there. Any one ever heard of this? My wife thinks the town of Yaquina was where the oyster place is.

As I Remember
by Carol Armington


Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival CANCELLED TOO!

 

"Dear Wooden Boat Festival Community,

"After much careful consideration, we feel we have no choice but to cancel the 2020 Wooden Boat Festival. There is great uncertainty of festivals being allowed to happen come fall, and if they are allowed, the conditions may be ones that defy the heart of our Festival—being together, boats rafted up, sharing the docks, the presentations, the food court, the dance floor. But ultimately, it is the welfare of our festival community that has pushed our decision. This will be the first year in forty-four that the wooden boat community will not come together in person to celebrate what we love. What is fall without the Festival? For the sponsors, boaters, vendors, volunteers, presenters, the RV’ers, and all the people that come every year, it's part of our annual rhythm and lives. We are heartbroken to not come together, but the love we feel for our festival family is ultimately why we choose to stay apart.

"We are mourning the incredible year we had lined up! Poster art from Port Townsend's famous artist Chris Witowski—that will be hidden in a vault for next year. The 2020 theme was showcasing Croatia, and Croatian Americans with a big focus on the fishing industry. Like the Japanese theme from last year, there are hundreds of thousands Croatian Americans living around the Puget Sound. We were looking forward to sharing their stories, music, food, and culture. I hope we can bring this wonderful theme another year.

"This pandemic has changed many things in our lives but the Wooden Boat Festival will be back. It's in our blood and in our hearts.

"Looking ahead, we have some really fun future festivals lined up for you. We are very excited to have a Nordic Festival in the hopper for 2021, including hosting The Draken, the largest Viking ship in the world. And for 2022 we are working on a Native Canoe theme, hopefully including a visit from the famous Hokulea.

"Stay tuned for updates about what's coming!

"Sending the best to everyone from the Wooden Boat Festival and Northwest Maritime Center team.


"Be well,
"Barb Trailer
"Wooden Boat Festival Director"

https://woodenboat.org/

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Salish 100 CANVELLED!

 

"SALISH 100 PUBLIC CANCELLATION RELEASE"

"Hey Folks,

"In its first year, the Salish 100 immediately became an event to honor our communities and celebrate traditions and skills near and dear to our hearts. This year it wasn’t just cruisers, but all of the ‘new’ family at the Northwest Maritime Center who were looking forward to this July.

"So it’s with a real sense of disappointment and sadness that we announce the cancellation of Salish 100. Salish 100 is not alone as all major events put on by the NWMC have been officially canceled: Race to Alaska, SEVENTY48, and the Wooden Boat Festival. For anyone following the COVID crisis, it is apparent that we still do not know its true magnitude and virility. Our only choice is to use prudence and caution as the risk of exposure is too great a gamble for us and our coastal communities. 2021 will see us on the water again, and the Salish 100 is already scheduled for July 9th–16th, 2021.

"...

"Daniel Evans

"Cruise Boss

"And Marty Loken, Founding Organizer"

https://nwmaritime.org/


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Re: Kayak build in Eugene

Josh
 

Thanks for adding the links. 
That Fulmar is a beauty! Unfortunately our budget was wiped out by the kayak. 


Re: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

Richard Green
 

I hadn’t heard of Voyage of a Summer Sun….I look forward to getting a copy and reading it. Thanks.

Rich

On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:36 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Voyage of a Summer Sun: Canoeing the Columbia River. Cody started at the top and worked his way downriver. A Good Read.

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870716611
/themotherofal-20

Amen to Reach of Tide and Sailing Uphill. Also, Sailing with Vancouver: A Modern Sea Dog, Antique Charts and a Voyage Through Time:

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870714848/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0920663702/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1771512644/themotherofal-20

On 4/18/2020 7:07 PM, Mark N wrote:
...
Sailing Uphill and Reach of Tides should be on every Coots bookshelf. :-)
Robin Cody also had a great friendship with Sam and he read from his book at the annual meeting and told stories about Sam. I believe some of those are in his book, but I can't recall the name of it.
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Re: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

 

On 4/18/2020 8:42 PM, Mark N wrote:
Yep, I've read all those books and own at least two.
The book that Robin Cody read from at the meeting was:
Another Way the River Has: Taut True Tales from the Northwest written in 2010
He has a number of boating essays in that.

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Re: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

Mark Neuhaus
 

Yep, I've read all those books and own at least two.  

The book that Robin Cody read from at the meeting was:

Another Way the River Has: Taut True Tales from the Northwest written in 2010

He has a number of boating essays in that.


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:36 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
Voyage of a Summer Sun: Canoeing the Columbia River. Cody started at the
top and worked his way downriver. A Good Read.

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870716611
/themotherofal-20

Amen to Reach of Tide and Sailing Uphill. Also, Sailing with Vancouver:
A Modern Sea Dog, Antique Charts and a Voyage Through Time:

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870714848/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0920663702/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1771512644/themotherofal-20

On 4/18/2020 7:07 PM, Mark N wrote:
> ...
> Sailing Uphill and Reach of Tides should be on every Coots bookshelf.  :-)
>
> Robin Cody also had a great friendship with Sam and he read from his
> book at the annual meeting and told stories about Sam. I believe some of
> those are in his book, but I can't recall the name of it.


Re: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

 

Voyage of a Summer Sun: Canoeing the Columbia River. Cody started at the top and worked his way downriver. A Good Read.

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870716611
/themotherofal-20

Amen to Reach of Tide and Sailing Uphill. Also, Sailing with Vancouver: A Modern Sea Dog, Antique Charts and a Voyage Through Time:

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0870714848/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0920663702/themotherofal-20

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1771512644/themotherofal-20

On 4/18/2020 7:07 PM, Mark N wrote:
...
Sailing Uphill and Reach of Tides should be on every Coots bookshelf.  :-)
Robin Cody also had a great friendship with Sam and he read from his book at the annual meeting and told stories about Sam. I believe some of those are in his book, but I can't recall the name of it.
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Re: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi guys,

I doubt Sam ever used any proper plans,  especially established ones.  When we had a memorial for him at one of RiversWest annual meetings, it was explained that Sam laid down on a piece of plywood and made his boat not much bigger, sorta to discourage passengers. I doubt any strongback of his lasted long, as it would have been incorporated into the next project.

Myles Twete would be one of the guys to ask about Sam, as he owns (owned?) one of Sam's boats, the Reach of Tides. Jim Giles, I believe his name was, was also a member of RiversWest at the time and he was the fellow who was with Sam in his boat when they had to abandon it in the Missouri River.

Oregon Field Guide did a piece on Sam back in the late 80s, and they gave me a CD of the show. I converted his segment to an .mp3 or .avi video file if anyone ever wanted to watch it on their computer, although you could probably stream it from OPB directly. He took them on his boat along the lower Columbia where he spent a summer or two as a youth.

Sailing Uphill and Reach of Tides should be on every Coots bookshelf.  :-)  

Robin Cody also had a great friendship with Sam and he read from his book at the annual meeting and told stories about Sam. I believe some of those are in his book, but I can't recall the name of it.

Mark


Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull

 

That does sound like the boat Sam McKinney started his voyage across the country in. IIRC, it took several boats and a couple of marriages to complete the trip. ;o) The book about the adventure is, Sailing Uphill.

I don't know anything about the strongback. The group was probably RiversWest, or a forerunner of it. Do any of the Megalopolitan Coots now anything?


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Subject: Stretched to 20' Great Pelican hull
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:27:41 -0700
From: Richard G

About forty or so years ago I knew a guy, Sam McKinney IIRC, who did some boating on the Columbia, wrote a few small books about such things. Used to see him in Astoria where I was living aboard. Anyway, his boat was a stretched to 20’ Great Pelican hull with a big old box cabin on it, he sat on a lawn chair and had a small outboard and a double bunk forward.
At that time it is my recollection that he belonged to a group of folks in Portland who were building boats and had built the 20’ strongback for his boat. Anyone know who those folks were/are and whether that strongback is still in existence? I recollect he started his upstream journey in that boat but changed boats and I kinda recall changed direction in one book at the same time.

Anyone recall this?

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